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The Bulwark Podcast

Michael Steele: Gum Up the Works

Thu, 06 Feb 2025

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After the dumbest member of the Senate, Tommy Tuberville, was able to block military promotions for months during the Biden administration, Dems should not back down from slowing the roll of Kash and the other remaining abominable nominees. Meanwhile, more federal workers are going to have to speak up—lawsuits don't make good visuals. The nation needs to see the faces of the men and women who are our public servants. Plus, Elon's poll numbers slip, Trump's Gaza gambit is BS, and who is the new DNC Chair, Ken Martin? Michael Steele joins Tim Miller.

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8.208 - 24.917 Tim Miller

Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. I'm delighted to be here with the former chair of the Republican National Committee. He's host of the Michael Steele Podcast, distributed right here by the Bulwark. He's co-host of The Weekend on MSNBC. He was lieutenant governor of Maryland. It's Michael Steele. How you doing, Chairman?

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25.378 - 28.419 Michael Steele

I'm good, baby boy. How you doing, man? Well...

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29.76 - 46.786 Tim Miller

I mean, time is a flat circle. It was either on Monday's show or Tuesday's show. I was like, this has been the longest three weeks of my life. And then I was like, wait a minute. It's only been two weeks, actually. So, you know, I'm here. I'm alive. And that's about all we can ask for right now, right? How are you doing?

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47.067 - 82.663 Michael Steele

It sucks real hard right now. I'm at a point where I'm frustrated and angry at the same time with the way storylines have played out with no response. And it is galling and mind numbingly stupid to me that we see the arrogance and disregard of this administration, the leveling up of the menagerie of misfits to be secretaries of fill in the blank and directors of national intelligence.

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83.704 - 113.444 Michael Steele

And there doesn't seem to be a counter narrative, let alone counter efforts to expose this bullshit for what it is. And it's frustrating because I feel like folks like you, myself and others are out here clang the bell, the warning bell saying, guys, don't do this. Trust me. It's not the price of eggs. Okay. I hear you, but it's not the price of eggs. That's the least of your problems.

114.105 - 146.865 Michael Steele

And here we are now. And then seeing people all of a sudden now, do I have a job? How can he do this? Where does he get the... Bitch, please. We told you. We told you this shit was coming. We told you what Project 2025 was. So for me right now, Tim, it's just I'm very frustrated with the way the story in the last 18 or so days has kind of unfolded and the reaction to it more than anything else.

147.403 - 162.604 Tim Miller

All right, well, I was going to get into that at the end, but let's just do this right off the top. We'll get to the news next. Because you had kind of a viral little exchange with our friend Joe Scarborough a couple weeks ago. I don't want to be rude. I understand the instinct, right?

162.964 - 187.212 Tim Miller

of some folks in the post after, well, you and I weren't shocked, but after the shock that some people went through of Trump winning, to be like, we need to reassess. Maybe what we were doing before wasn't right. Maybe there needs to be more accommodation. It's not that I don't get that instinct. I get it. I just think that it's wrong. And it fundamentally misunderstands

188.052 - 208.584 Tim Miller

why Trump won and why Democrats failed. And I think that the moment right now, which I think people are coming around to once they start seeing the reality of all this, is calling for going to the mattresses, opposition, doing everything possible to try to, you know, put gunk in the spokes of their tires, right?

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