Trump administration lawyers don't know or won't tell a federal judge who is running DOGE because Elon doesn't formally exist as part of the government he is trying to dismantle. And the administration is likely to lose many of the wrongful termination cases involving forest rangers, researchers, and the like—it will end up paying back wages and not save any money in the process. Meanwhile, we are not exactly confident that the FBI under Kash and meathead Dan will thoroughly investigate the recent bomb threat against Never Trumpers and police officers who defended the Capitol on Jan 6. Ben Wittes breaks it all down. Plus, Lawfare has been crushing it, and it's now out with a new podcast about the history of US-Ukrainian relations, hosted by Nastya Lapatina and Tyler McBrien. Ben Wittes, Anastasiia Lapatina, and Tyler McBrien join Tim Miller. show notes Episode 1 of Lawfare's "Escalation" Lawfare's home page The second episode of the Gen Z FYPod is out!
Who is Ben Wittes and what is his role at Lawfare?
Hello and welcome to the Bulldog Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. I'm so excited to have back Ben Wittes. He's Editor-in-Chief of Lawfare, Senior Fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution. He also writes Dog Shirt Daily on Substack. What's up, Ben?
Oh, you know, it's just another day in paradise. You know, every time you think you've hit bottom, you scratch and there's a Dan Bongino underneath. I mean, you know, I got to tell you, Tim, I've been ready for a lot of things. That one I was not ready for.
I think it's cute that you think that we were at or near the bottom. We're not even, we can't even see the bottom from here, Ben.
I'm just, you know, when you're falling down a well, it always feels like, not that I've fallen down a well before, but it always feels like you're about to hit the bottom and then you realize there is no bottom. It just goes down into the center of the earth. And there is Dan Pongino waiting for you.
Hugging you on the way down. Yeah. Bringing you down with him. We're going to get to Dan Pongino. We've got so much to get to. I've been binging on the Lawfare part. I'm not alone, actually. I had a friend that sent me a screenshot of something. And if you're playing on CarPlay, it accidentally gives you a double screenshot. Have you ever done that where you send a text to someone?
Anyway, they were also listening to the Lawfare pod. So many of us want to understand what's happening in the law.
You know, I appreciated, you know, you and Ezra Klein saying that things must be really bad if you were listening to the Lawfare podcast again. A lot of people took a break from us for four years. And, you know, I understand that there were happier times. But when things really, really suck, we're there to hold your hand.
All right. Well, here's the thing for me. That was so disorienting on my plane flights as I was coming in and out of dozing, listening to your dulcet tones. It's so strange to have to match the considered legal analysis that's happening on the panels with...
what you're responding to, which are executive orders or decrees by unelected bureaucrats that seem to have been dictated by voice note while they were playing a first-person shooter game, like are written in marker or poop smeared. And then you guys are like, well, we have to look at the reference.
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