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The Bulwark Podcast

Ben Stiller: 'Severance,' but Real Life

Wed, 05 Feb 2025

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With Elon's 20-something operatives running the Treasury Department, it's hard not to feel that we've been severed from reality and a better Earth someplace else. Ben Stiller talks with Tim about metaphysics, avoiding politics in public, and advocating for the millions of people displaced around the world.  Plus, the origin story of Severance, Adam Scott, John Turturro, and whether the show is a metaphor for life itself. Also, Tim gives a pop quiz, Ben shares his love for the Knicks, and both ponder why there aren't good comedies anymore.  Ben Stiller joins Tim Miller. show notes: Watch Severance The Albert Brooks film, 'Real Life.' Trailer for "Real Life' Ben's New York Times interview Video of one of Musk's engineers/operatives

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30.482 - 50.112 Tim Miller

Hey, everybody. I know it was a little bleak yesterday, so I got a treat for you and for me. Ben Stiller wanted to come on the pod. We've been DMing. He does a lot of work with refugees and Everything that's in the news with USAID and everything. I was like, man, Joe, come on. We can talk about your work doing that. But then also take a little break, do some Hollywood chat.

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50.872 - 72.991 Tim Miller

It wasn't maybe quite as light affair as I wanted, but there are at least some laughs for everybody. So I hope you enjoy it. We're taping this on Tuesday afternoon because I'm headed out to Palm Springs for a book festival for the rest of the week. And so if something happens between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning that wasn't covered here, you'll know why.

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73.071 - 86.321 Tim Miller

But before we get to Ben, I just had a few stray thoughts on some news items. I just wanted to... to share with everybody. The first one is, it's kind of an action item. Tom Malinowski, former Congressman from New Jersey.

86.822 - 105.936 Tim Miller

I think we're going to hopefully have him on the pod here in the next couple of weeks to talk about this at greater length, but he has a really, really great piece in the bulwark that was out on Tuesday morning called five things Dems must do to fight Trump. Now go check that out if you haven't, because it gives a real, an action plan. And I know there are a lot of people that feel like,

106.656 - 125.615 Tim Miller

Maybe lost, including elected Dems and some Dem strategists that I've been talking to. Tom gives some real tangible things folks can do. And reading it, it buoyed me a little bit when I was like, yeah, that's a good idea. That's a good idea. Yeah, this is manageable. I mean, it's bad. All the things Anne was worried about are worth worrying about.

126.235 - 144.386 Tim Miller

But there are some countervailing influences that the Dems can leverage, including the courts and the people that Biden put on the court recently, but also some strategies from Congress. So hopefully we can talk to Tom about that at greater length. But you should go read the article regardless. Two other just sort of news items I wanted to jump on.

144.747 - 168.582 Tim Miller

On Friday, I guess it was, I gave the plea to Bill Cassidy to do the right thing, my senator here from Louisiana, acknowledging during the plea that I wasn't exactly optimistic, but... I was thinking there was at least a chance, as they might say in Dumb and Dumber, a different aughts comedy from the ones we're going to be discussing on this podcast. I was thinking there was a chance.

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