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The Bryce Crawford Podcast

The Johnny Chang Interview (EP 87)

Mon, 17 Mar 2025

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In this episode, Bryce sits down with Johnny Chang to talk about Religious Theology, Gods Grace, Sin Nature and more!

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Chapter 1: Who is Johnny Chang and what is his background?

0.129 - 24.424 Bryce Carver

what's going on guys welcome back to another episode of the bryce carver podcast i'm bryce and today i have an awesome guest on recently became friends johnny ching johnny how are you doing bro appreciate you my pleasure do you think do you go by like i know some people call you pastor because you like do like an online church do you like do you call yourself pastor or i go by minister cool minister more than anything or just johnny okay yeah i'm not too big on the labels

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24.924 - 43.333 Bryce Carver

Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah, that was actually something I wanted to talk to you about later. Yeah, I'm super excited about this. My favorite thing that I admire about you is your knowledge on the Word. It's just so crazy. I feel like that's such a beautiful compliment and such a beautiful thing to have.

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43.553 - 62.723 Bryce Carver

The way that you quote Scripture and the way that you remember it on your heart, it's like every time you get asked a question, it's the first thing to come off your tongue. So I highly respect that. Thank you. And I also highly respect the work that God has done in your life. I mean, it's so crazy how you can hear something about someone.

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63.303 - 83.152 Bryce Carver

And like whenever I hear your story, right, when I see videos and things like that, the Johnny that I know is not that old Johnny. So it's hard for me to imagine what your life was like before. And so I just really admire your heart, your character, and your dedication to Scripture. So I appreciate you. Thank you, bro. Yeah, man.

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83.613 - 87.556 Bryce Carver

Um, I bet a lot of times when you do interviews, do you get asked to like share your story a lot? Yeah.

87.776 - 89.117 Johnny Chang

No. Yeah. It's usually what it is.

89.397 - 89.677 Bryce Carver

Yeah.

89.717 - 93.46 Johnny Chang

You can't have a testimony without the test. Right. So yeah, definitely.

93.56 - 104.587 Bryce Carver

Yeah. I'll let you kind of summarize that quickly because I want this to be different. I want us to just like ask questions about the Bible and stuff like that. Cause I think there's, there's a lot of value to that, but I don't want to undermine what God's done in your life.

Chapter 2: How did Johnny Chang's faith journey evolve?

1805.387 - 1827.447 Bryce Carver

No, that makes so much sense. So that, so like that whole 2023, 2023, I was like doing that and then that happened and I was like, oh, that sucks. So then all of 2024 to, I don't know if you remember when we did the group podcast with George, that's what I was opening up to. I was feeling so much pressure and like, because I'm like, I kind of like, For me, I'm hardwired super logical.

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1827.587 - 1852.684 Bryce Carver

So I'm just like, it's got to be one extreme or the other. So then I'm like, if that didn't work, let me just try to like strongman all my faith, just being how much I can know and learn. And so now I feel like from start of January, like December, November, January, I'm on this slow process of trying to like figure out there's got to be a balance of both, you know? And that was all super helpful.

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1853.285 - 1880.718 Bryce Carver

Thank you, bro. So something I struggle with a lot personally is overthinking. I'm a very big overthinker. And it will ruin moments. It'll ruin things. Something so innocent can be shared with me and then I'll take it to the extreme in my brain and then it'll make me sad or it'll make me feel confused or make me feel like, oh, this person doesn't care about me. How can...

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1881.218 - 1884.479 Bryce Carver

How can I take action steps to overcome the overthinking?

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1884.639 - 1905.465 Johnny Chang

Sure. So overthinking is the same as the difference between overthinking and deep thinking is the same as conviction and condemnation. Overthinking will always leave you, as you say, confused, fearful, angry, frustrated, sad, lonely, miserable. Deep thinking is always empathetic at its core. It's always positive. Right.

1905.505 - 1918.268 Johnny Chang

So, for example, one time I was driving, you know, this was prior to me finding God. You know, I had a BMW and I would always drive without my seatbelt. And, you know, I was just horrible like that.

1918.348 - 1918.489 Bryce Carver

Right.

1918.549 - 1942.792 Johnny Chang

And I would drive 90, 95, 100. And I looked down on my phone one time, I'm going on the freeway, I'm doing like blazing, 95, almost 100. And I look up and I guess there was just like that sudden stop of traffic in LA and I couldn't stop myself in time. But that day, I remember putting on my seatbelt, right? For some reason. It was all God, obviously. But, you know, and I crashed.

1942.852 - 1962.14 Johnny Chang

I totaled the car, but I walked out unscathed, right? And the window, like, I felt the sheer force where the window, like, busted open. And I felt like if I didn't have my seatbelt on, I would have flew out. I would have been dead. Right. So every time I think about that overthinking, for example, in this situation would be, God, you're so stupid. Why do you speed? You're an idiot.

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