The Brett Cooper Show
Is Taylor Swift Lying About Her Role in the Blake Lively Drama? | Episode 31
Thu, 15 May 2025
Today we cover the piping hot tea surrounding Blake Lively and Taylor Swift, the new Pope’s relatable brother, and how nudity is finally going out of style. Plus, an update on Snow White.00:00 Pope Leo08:34 Cynthia Erivo10:35 Blake Lively + Taylor Swift28:00 No More Nudity31:35 Snow White UpdateBy joining Cooper Confidential you are directly supporting me and my team. You’ll get ad-free episodes, exclusive ‘Dear Brett” videos, and a private newsletter Sign up now: https://cooperconfidential.supercast.com/Seven Weeks: Use code BRETT for up to 25% off your first subscription order + claim free gift: https://sevenweekscoffee.com/Good Ranchers: Get a year of FREE MEAT and $40 off with code BRETT: https://www.goodranchers.comAngel Studios: https://angel.com/brett for two free tickets to The Last Rodeo#BrettCooper #TheBrettCooperShow #BrettCooperShow
Chapter 1: What is the latest news about the new American Pope?
Guys, we are well overdue for a Blake Lively update, and the tea is piping hot, if you will. The Pope's new brother is certainly a character, and thank God nudity is out of style. All right guys, so unless you were living under a rock, then you probably saw that last week, the first ever American Pope was elected. A man named Robert Francis Provost was elected and took the name Pope Leo.
He is the first ever American Pope. He is from Chicago, which is probably the most American thing ever. He's also a baseball fan. And guys, the media just went wild. And obviously this is a huge worldwide event. The videos, the coverage of this was truly insane. Before we even get into him and his brother,
The most insane thing that I saw come out of the conclave and everything going on was I think it was CNN or NBC. Somebody was covering all of the events and they were talking about what happens when all the cardinals go into the Vatican and they close the doors and they start doing their votes. And somebody in the mainstream media literally said, They have to turn in their phones.
They don't have access to social media or the outside world. They are raw-dogging the conclave. That's what they literally said. That is like a Gen Z slang term for like sitting on an airplane and just tuning the world out and just like existing instead of, you know, texting your friends, being on social media, watching a movie. You're not listening to music. You're just raw-dogging your flight.
They literally said that the Cardinals were raw-dogging this conclave. So if that is not the most 2025 thing I have ever heard, I don't know what is. Anyway, so this man, now Pope Leo, was elected, and we were all focused on him and being the new American Pope.
Americans, especially Americans on the right, were simultaneously so excited that we had an American Pope and were feeling very patriotic, but then they also... dug up old tweets and they saw that he possibly most likely is anti-Trump so then they got very very angry but then a new shiny thing distracted our attention and that would be the Pope's brothers.
But before we dive into that story make sure that you're following our podcast page and rate the show if you you're enjoying it. And guys, in case you missed it, we launched my tour last week in Phoenix and Irvine. It was so much fun. I loved being there with you guys and meeting so many of you in person. If you wanna come out and see a show, we have many more coming up next month in June.
You can buy all those tickets at brettcooper.com, or you can also find information about my subscriber-only platform, Cooper Confidential, which is also linked in the description below. All right, so first of all, I just think it is so hilarious that we know who the Pope's brothers are. And I understand, like, popes have families,
But I think all of this happening in 2025 in the age of TikTok and social media has just made this seem so modern in a way that it hasn't felt before. Like I was doing research and Pope Francis, he had a family. He had a sister who lived in Argentina, but we never heard anything about them. They never came and visited him. I think that he only saw her
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Chapter 7: Why is nudity going out of style?
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But back to these hilarious brothers, I do think that there is an interesting discourse about the new pope and how personable he feels and how relevant he feels in our modern digital age.
I know that there are a lot of people out there who feel very uncomfortable with the fact that he is so accessible, that we're seeing pictures of him allegedly at baseball games, that they're doing interviews with his brothers, that we see his brother's Facebook posts, that we see his old tweets allegedly, and I know that that is very, very weird and I kind of sympathize with that.
Chapter 8: What updates are there on Snow White?
But I would also offer just a possible counterargument, and we'll see how this actually turns out, that I feel like this could bring a lot of young people into the fold, because he is going to be more accessible than ever. He is more relatable than possibly any other pope has ever been, especially to people here in America where faith is disappearing on a daily basis. So who knows?
We'll see how this turns out. What I really want to know is what the pope thinks about Cynthia Erivo playing Jesus in Jesus Christ Superstar, because that is the next story we need to dive into. So if you guys don't know, Cynthia Erivo is the actress who played Elphaba in the new Wicked movie that came out last year. She became a huge star.
You've probably seen pictures of her with her freaking insane looking nails. She was the one who was in all the videos with Ariana Grande. They were just like clinging to each other. She was the one who Ariana was like holding her finger and crying. She is the center of many, many memes that we have all laughed at now.
And while she still has another Wicked movie that is coming out this year, she also is embarking on a new acting journey. and she will be playing Jesus in the musical Jesus Christ Superstar at the Hollywood Bowl this summer and of course that has caused a media firestorm because why is a black lesbian playing Jesus?
Now in addition to that they also hired Adam Lambert to play Judas and you can see these two individuals here you have Jesus and Judas look straight out of the Bible if you're asking And I know that we often get all up in arms on race swapping, but this is not even about the race swapping. Like the most offensive part about this is that a lesbian, a female, is playing Jesus.
It's just ridiculous, but also we do have to acknowledge that Jesus Christ Superstar It is not the most traditional of musicals. Like, this is not something that you would see in your local church. It is a rock musical. It's about the last seven days of Jesus's life from Judas's POV. It definitely takes liberties. It's not the most traditional thing to begin with.
So again, I'm not surprised that in the year 2025, Cynthia Erivo is playing Jesus. But casting a lesbian is even crazier than any other casting decisions I have seen for this musical in the history of me being involved in musical theater. Like, it is a weird musical to begin with that I think a lot of more traditional Christians would not like. But this is just taking it a step even further.
So, of course, people are going to be upset on social media. And I get it. You know, casting somebody as perfect as Jonathan Rumi was probably a step too far for traditional Hollywood. But, like, this is truly insane. It's taking it to a next level.
Like, to be honest, Cynthia Erivo playing Jesus is possibly more slanderous than the lawsuit that we have to cover next, because guys, there are major updates in the Blake Lively, Justin Maldoni lawsuit, and we need to dive in. Okay, so last week, you probably saw on social media, Taylor Swift was officially brought into the fold. And obviously, she wrote a song that was in It Ends With Us.
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