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Finding Mom's Killer | 2. The Stories We Tell

Sun, 02 Mar 2025

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Chapter 1: How do family stories shape our perception of the world?

60.731 - 117.037 Steve Fishman, Narrator

The Binge. Feed your true crime obsession. We all remember the stories our parents told us. Not just the bedtime stories, but the ones our parents told about themselves. The stories that summed up who they were, their place in the world, and the lives we, their children, might someday lead. As a kid, Collier Landry Boyle heard lots of these stories. There was one his dad especially liked to tell.

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117.877 - 135.391 Steve Fishman, Narrator

It was a stunner. The first time Collier heard it, he and his parents were in the dining room of an exclusive country club, hosting a party for his father's medical colleagues. Collier was eight years old, crayons in hand.

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137.492 - 156.056 Collier Landry Boyle

So I'm just kind of doodling away, and we have all these doctors and their wives around us. And my father's telling this story of how he was flying a solo mission for the Navy. during the Vietnam War over the South China Sea and he gets shot down in his fighter plane.

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Chapter 2: What tales did Collier's father tell about his past?

157.077 - 186.489 Collier Landry Boyle

The smoke in the engines is billowing and he's trying to pull the ejection lever and his F-14 Tomahawk crash lands into the South China Sea. And he cannot get out. And the water is coming in through the cracked cockpit, right? As he's slowly sinking. And he gets out his trusty bowie knife and uses the blade to cut his way out of the cockpit. And he sees an island off into the distance.

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187.09 - 206.24 Collier Landry Boyle

And he swam to this island. And he survives in the jungle, eating bark and slugs and waits for the naval team to rescue him. And my mother is listening and nodding because she's enthralled with the story.

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207.181 - 214.03 Steve Fishman, Narrator

Collier's mother has no doubt heard this story many times before, but Collier hasn't, and he's captivated.

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215.231 - 220.478 Collier Landry Boyle

Everybody wants to believe their father is a, you know, the savior of the world, right?

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225.506 - 237.371 Steve Fishman, Narrator

From Sony Music Entertainment and Orbit Media, this is Finding Mom's Killer. I'm Steve Fishman. Episode 2, The Stories We Tell.

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Chapter 3: Why is Collier worried about his mother's disappearance?

335.632 - 362.467 Steve Fishman, Narrator

It's January 1990 in Mansfield, Ohio. Collier Landry Boyle is 11. It's been a few years since he's heard his father tell that story of wartime derring-do. A lot has changed. Collier's mother, Noreen, has just disappeared. His father, Jack, is in tears, telling friends that Noreen has walked out on the family, though he doesn't seem particularly interested in helping the police find her.

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363.666 - 371.774 Steve Fishman, Narrator

Collier, on the other hand, is in a panic. He's established a partnership of sorts with veteran police lieutenant Dave Messmore.

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376.098 - 384.967 Collier Landry Boyle

So every day that I go to school, I'm trying to like check in with Dave, whether I ask him to come to the school to talk to me or I'm just checking in with him on the telephone.

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386.28 - 398.226 Lieutenant Dave Messmore

He would call me frequently, and I'd talk to him whenever I could. He was just worried, did you find my mother? And I said, no, Collier, not right now. I'm working on it, though. Just to reassure him.

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398.987 - 422.896 Steve Fishman, Narrator

For Lieutenant Messmore, this wasn't just lip service. He was becoming fond of this odd, overly polite kid. Without his mother, Collier seemed all alone in the world, like he needed a parent. Did you feel like Collier was interested in making a relationship with you?

423.977 - 429.021 Lieutenant Dave Messmore

Well, it kind of developed that way. I don't know that he was interested in it, but he had nobody else to confide in.

430.283 - 457.841 Steve Fishman, Narrator

Right then, Collier needed someone to confide in. The story he'd been telling himself about his childhood had just been rewritten. And in Collier's memory, that childhood was idyllic. When he was growing up, his father was a Navy physician and the Boyles lived on a base in Virginia. A Navy base isn't fancy, but for Collier, it was a place of wonder.

458.702 - 482.654 Steve Fishman, Narrator

Planes landed so close it felt like they were right next door. He spent hours digging up old military relics in the backyard. And his parents, Jack and Noreen, doted on him. They made a home in which a little boy could forget himself completely, even when his imagination got the better of him. Like one day when he was watching a favorite cartoon.

483.714 - 502.651 Collier Landry Boyle

There was a matador and a bull. And I remember, I'm gonna be the bull. And my mom was like, dinner's ready. And I run with my eyes closed and I run smack dab into our Land's End table and I split my head open. They take me to the naval base where my father worked at the hospital right there, the clinic.

Chapter 4: What was Collier's childhood like with his parents?

503.112 - 519.587 Collier Landry Boyle

My mom's freaking out and he's stitching me up, you know, and I remember I was like crying and my mom was feeding me like salami and provolone cheese because we didn't get to have our dinner, but he stitched me up. And it was like one of those moments of like my dad being there to save me.

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524.426 - 529.532 Steve Fishman, Narrator

If Collier thought of his father as a hero, then his mother was his soulmate.

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530.613 - 545.889 Collier Landry Boyle

I mean, my mother was my whole world. The sun rose and set with her, you know. I just loved being around my mom. I would help her like shop. She loved to go to museums, the theater. She loved cultural things.

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546.969 - 562.274 Steve Fishman, Narrator

Noreen took Collier everywhere. From an early age, he'd join her for lunch dates with friends. He was her escort for plays and art openings, her style consultant when she picked out designer clothes or home decor or fancy jewelry.

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565.276 - 586.238 Collier Landry Boyle

I remember one time my mother was like shopping at Tiffany's. There was a Rolex counter. There was this sales girl working at the counter and I got her to let me try on a Rolex. My mother was mortified because first of all, we're not buying you a Rolex.

586.938 - 611.878 Collier Landry Boyle

Second of all, she was mortified that I had talked the sales girl into letting me put this, you know, whatever, $5,000 watch on my wrist and walk around the store with it. I just thought it was fun to play grownup. And she just got a kick out of that because she just was like, that's my little boy. Like he just charms people into doing things for him, I guess.

612.867 - 616.811 Collier Landry Boyle

My mother used to say he's 11 going on 40. That's what she would tell people.

617.892 - 635.31 Steve Fishman, Narrator

Clearly, Collier wasn't a scrappy little kid coming home with mud on his jeans. Noreen didn't even like him wearing jeans. She dressed him in slacks and polo shirts. She cooked him gourmet meals. He loved her cooking. And she made sure his manners were perfect.

636.801 - 645.303 Collier Landry Boyle

If we were going somewhere, I was expected to behave a certain way, where I was maybe upholding my aristocratic family, if you will.

Chapter 5: How did Collier's family adapt to life in Mansfield, Ohio?

646.264 - 652.765 Steve Fishman, Narrator

After all, as Noreen reminded Collier, they came from good stock, money, and glamour.

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653.686 - 665.029 Collier Landry Boyle

My mother's last name was Schmidt. We were related to Schmidt's Brewery in Philadelphia. And she was related to Grace Kelly, Princess Grace of Monaco.

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668.911 - 693.913 Steve Fishman, Narrator

It wasn't just Noreen's side of the family. Collier's father, Jack, said that his ancestors were prominent bluebloods from Philadelphia's famous main line, which made Jack and Noreen a good match, both descendants of American Brahmins. They certainly looked the part. Jack was tall and handsome, with a mop of dark curly hair. Noreen was petite, blonde, beautiful.

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694.653 - 700.494 Steve Fishman, Narrator

And Collier, he was their perfect, precocious son, eager to entertain his parents.

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701.634 - 723.858 Collier Landry Boyle

My mother had a station wagon where, you know, you have the front seats, then you have the middle seats, then you have the back seat that faces out the back, right? On road trips, my parents would be playing, you know, the Philharmonic. And I'd be over the orchestra pit, which was the back of the station wagon, conducting as if I was conducting the orchestra.

724.639 - 729.922 Collier Landry Boyle

Maybe I was using a soda straw as my baton, maybe. They thought it was hilarious.

731.257 - 759.91 Steve Fishman, Narrator

For people from a distinguished lineage, a no-frills Navy base was hardly the place to reassert their ancestral glory. Clearly, the Boyles were meant for finer things. So when they got the chance to leave, they jumped at it. In 1983, they moved to Mansfield, Ohio. Now Mansfield, population 50,000, might not have been a hive of culture, but it was a step up.

760.871 - 788.568 Steve Fishman, Narrator

Jack and Noreen had decided it was time for private practice and a larger payday. The Boyles bought a modest house in a posh neighborhood. They put Collier in private school. And eventually they expanded their family, adopting a little girl from China. Jack's practice took off. Patients liked him and sent their friends. It was a family business. Jack doctored, Noreen kept the books.

789.609 - 814.649 Steve Fishman, Narrator

Soon the Boyles amassed symbols of success. Three cars, including a BMW and a Range Rover. Noreen started collecting Louis Vuitton purses. Eventually, she'd own seven. Jack had a reputation as a devoted and hardworking physician. He even did house calls like an old-fashioned country doctor. And tagging along was one of Collier's favorite father-son activities.

Chapter 6: Who is Sherry and how did Collier meet her?

913.922 - 941.916 Collier Landry Boyle

I looked back. And my father is walking with Sherry, talking to her, and he has his arm around her. They're in this very serious conversation. And later on, we say our goodbyes and we get in the truck and I ask my father, who is that woman? He tells me she's daddy's patient and she's terminally ill. And daddy was consoling her. I was like, oh, that's terrible. That's absolutely terrible.

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943.769 - 957.081 Steve Fishman, Narrator

Collier felt bad for Sherry, but he'd done plenty of house calls with his father. He'd seen his father attend to plenty of sick patients. Actually, it sometimes felt like his dad was always out seeing sick patients.

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958.002 - 961.586 Collier Landry Boyle

A lot of times he would come in late at night or he would be gone by the morning.

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962.667 - 969.233 Steve Fishman, Narrator

To Collier, it seemed like his dad was never home. In fact, Collier and his mother rarely saw him.

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970.267 - 976.13 Collier Landry Boyle

I didn't really know what their marriage was other than it looked normal. But what is normal?

989.377 - 1008.242 Steve Fishman, Narrator

Around Mansfield, there were a few different stories told about Dr. Jack Boyle, the well-heeled husband, the selfless country doctor, the courageous Navy pilot. And also, as some knew, a guy who loved a home-cooked meal, though most of the time he had to fend for himself around the Boyle residence.

1009.243 - 1015.689 Mark Davis

He's always saying, you know, he eats on the run and hardly eats. If he goes home, he doesn't cook.

1016.95 - 1032.499 Steve Fishman, Narrator

This is Mark Davis. Mark was born and raised on the outskirts of Mansfield, in a big family where there was always room at the dinner table. Soon after he met Jack, he learned about the doctor's chronic malnutrition and offered to help.

1033.339 - 1042.322 Mark Davis

I said, well, come on out. My mom's a good cook. You can come on out sometime. So he just kind of absorbed himself into the atmosphere.

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