The Bill Simmons Podcast
Mavericks Fans Revolt, ‘SNL 50’ Guesses, Oscars Watch, and Super Bowl Leftovers With Bryan Curtis and Matt Belloni
Wed, 12 Feb 2025
The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Bryan Curtis to discuss lingering Super Bowl LIX thoughts (2:58), as well as the Luka Doncic trade from the POV of a longtime Mavericks fan (22:07). Then Bill talks with Matt Belloni about the highly anticipated 'SNL 50' show (59:00), Oscars predictions, Justin Baldoni vs. Blake Lively, Hollywood's relationship with President Trump the second time around, and much more (01:20:45). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the lingering thoughts on Super Bowl LIX?
Hey, newsflash, the Cowboys didn't win another Super Bowl. What? It's been over three decades since the last time. We did have the Eagles win. We had the end of Mahomes. We had a lot of takes. Sal and I were doing stuff on Sunday night about, Mahomes getting kicked off Cote Island. What was the media reaction yesterday? What jumped out to you? What did you enjoy?
Well, I think we had a little bit of a Chiefs take crisis with the Super Bowl before the game. We did. Did you see all the people trying to make the Chiefs into villains like the Pats, like the 90s Yankees? Yeah. And they're not villains. They're just not. They're not hated on that scale yet. I don't believe. And people try to, you know, oh, we're tired of them. We're pissed off at Taylor Swift.
The refs are in their pocket. And they were just trying to get us there that we all hated the Chiefs and we're rooting against them. But I don't actually believe that was the case. I think we might be a little tired of them being good. We might have been kind of annoyed at the way they won games this year, but I don't think they're hated at all.
And then my favorite, Bill, was you got... Wait, hold on on that, though.
Who was the best... Who was central casting for best villain? Was it just Duke basketball in the 90s? Who was just the easiest to put right in there? Because even the Yankees, like... I hated the Yankees, but I was like, all right, Jeter, I kind of like. He seems like a nice guy. You know, it was more the fan base than the team itself. Duke basketball seemed like that was the easiest one.
Duke was at the top of the scale. The Yankees had the thing where they were outspending everybody and kind of everybody thought they were ruining baseball. So I think that was mixed in there.
Yeah, yeah. When you're ruining stuff, that's always a good one. I'm trying to think who else. Like the Pats, because of the Spygate, I felt like that. In the first three Super Bowls, people were like, all right, enough with these guys. But it was a little like the Chiefs thing. But then when Spygate happened, then they became criminals, basically, and that moved it to another level.
And then they had a hateable coach, which is another thing the Chiefs lacked. Like, people don't hate Andy Reid. No. They just don't. Bill Belichick was hateable, probably still is hateable in his own way, even as he's tried to rehabilitate his image all year. But I think with the Chiefs, people are just like, yeah, okay.
They had the Taylor Swift thing, a lot of Kelsey, a lot of both Kelseys. A lot of commercials. They were moving a little bit toward the Trump side of stuff, which I think a couple people ruffled up. But for the most part, I don't know. My biggest issue with them was they made it so unfun to talk about the Super Bowl, which we talked about on Sunday night, where it's just like...
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Chapter 2: How did the Mavericks' Luka Doncic trade unfold?
So I almost don't believe that he couldn't have... There's no way he really feels like they're not doing enough for him. Anyway, that made me laugh. And then all the Mav stuff with just... Hey, let's hold our heads high and thank Luca for seven years. And he brought us to the Western finals and the finals. And this is great. Maverick. Good luck in LA. No, they did the opposite.
They just leak shit left and right. He's a fat piece of shit. Maybe he had a drinking problem. His calves could explode. Watch out for his Achilles.
There's so many fucking things that are leaking out. It's disgusting.
It was. And you know me, I'm a student of the now they tell a story. And just as soon as this trade came down, we were all on the clock, right? You guys even said it on the emergency podcast that night.
We're all on the clock.
Here we go. But it never really came out because there's really not a reason for this, right? There's not a great answer. There's always an answer with these things, with these weird stories. What happened? What are the motives here? And the answer is, Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Chapter 3: Who are the key players in the SNL 50th anniversary?
They wouldn't let him say pedophile on the Super Bowl.
They also stuck up for him, though. I mean, I think there were some lawsuits behind the scene that they kind of aligned with Kendrick.
Maybe. I mean, it's pretty remarkable that that Super Bowl performance aired. It was an openly political diss track. I mean, that would have never aired on the Super Bowl 10 years ago.
How about four years ago?
Maybe even four years ago. I just feel like the fact that his fans loved it. I think there were probably a lot of older white people in America who didn't get it.
I could feel them in the Superdome. Yeah, exactly.
Donald Trump not rocking along to the Kendrick set. But honestly, that's kind of great. I kind of love that that happened on the Super Bowl.
Speaking of Trump, Hollywood, they're in the second Trump term.
Very different.
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