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The Ben Shapiro Show

Daily Wire Backstage Live at CPAC: The Fight, The Wins, The Future

Fri, 21 Feb 2025

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We're back in DC! Join Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, Andrew Klavan, and Jeremy Boreing live at CPAC for a special Daily Wire Backstage. As we mark ten years of The Daily Wire, we’ll break down the seismic cultural and political shifts that brought us to this moment—where long-standing battles are finally turning into victories. From the first weeks of Trump’s presidency to the downfall of radical leftist ideology, we’ll take on the biggest questions facing the country today, take yours, and chart the course for what’s next. - - - Today's Sponsors: Balance of Nature - Visit https://www.balanceofnature.com code BACKSTAGE for 35% off your first order + a free bottle of Fiber and Spice. Tax Network USA - For a complimentary consultation, call today at 1 (800) 958-1000 or visit https://www.TNUSA.com/DAILYWIRE Leaf Filter - Get a free estimate, free inspection, and 30% off at https://www.leaffilter.com/BACKSTAGE Thank you, 4547 Whiskey, for sponsoring this broadcast!

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Chapter 1: Why is Ben Shapiro optimistic about the United States?

0.309 - 39.496 Ben Shapiro

Hey folks, Ben Shapiro here. Don't miss our latest episode of Daily Wire Backstage. Join me, Matt Walsh, Andrew Klavan, Michael Knowles, and Jeremy Boring as we cover the top stories in politics and pop culture with enough laughs and insights to get you through these insane news cycles. Take a listen. Well, folks, you know, I'm not famous for being a particularly optimistic sort.

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40.597 - 60.528 Ben Shapiro

If you've ever listened to my show, I'd say morosity, depression, that may be a feeling that's come over you once in a while listening to my show where I describe what's going on in the country. But I can safely say I've never felt more optimistic about the United States than I do right now. And that is thanks to President Donald J. Trump.

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62.301 - 78.649 Ben Shapiro

And one of the things that's sort of mysterious about President Trump is the fact that he isn't really an ideological conservative. Now, people like me, I grew up in the movement. I grew up reading Thomas Sowell and Frederick Hayek and reading Russell Kirk. I don't think President Trump has ever sat around reading those people.

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78.669 - 92.505 Ben Shapiro

I don't think he sits around at night and browses Edmund Burke or anything. And so the question is, why is it that this man, who's not truly an ideological conservative, is the most successful conservative president of my lifetime, bar none? It's a real question.

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93.226 - 105.704 Ben Shapiro

And I think to understand that, the thing that we need to understand about President Trump is that more than anything else, more than anything else, and in this era, needed more than anything else, President Trump lives in the world of reality.

106.82 - 123.483 Ben Shapiro

President Trump has been slandered by the media as somebody who creates fictions of his own and sort of lives within those fictions and says a lot of words that don't always match up with the truth and all that kind of stuff. The reality is that President Trump, in his gut, lives in the real world.

124.639 - 147.071 Ben Shapiro

Which is why President Trump wins so often, because if you are going to win, you have to acknowledge reality, because reality always wins. And this is what makes President Trump conservative. Conservatism lines up really, really well with reality. The reason that President Trump won the last election cycle is because the Democratic Party, the left, completely disconnected themselves from reality.

147.151 - 167.956 Ben Shapiro

Completely disconnected themselves from reality in every possible way. They ran screaming with their hair on fire, their blue hair on fire, away from reality. President Trump embraces reality with both arms. When it comes to the world of economics, for example, President Trump only cares about success. He cares about economic dynamism.

167.996 - 188.313 Ben Shapiro

He cares about American businesses being able to build and succeed. And he understands that in order for all those things to happen, you have to free American business from the shackle of regulation and government. You have to allow businesses to innovate. You have to allow people to rise and fall on their own merit. Meritocracy has to be valued more than, say, identity politics and DEI.

Chapter 2: How does President Trump approach reality in politics?

1529.484 - 1541.11 Jeremy Boreing

Listen, I'm good at that. Everybody's in a good mood. And Jeremy's like, and then you'll die. And then you'll die. And at the same time, your life may have been very good these last four years while Joe Biden was president, even though things in our national politics were going quite poorly.

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1541.59 - 1562.284 Jeremy Boreing

And so I think it's important in these moments to reflect on what are the actual things we can do in our own lives to ensure that we're living lives that are honoring to God, productive for our family, productive for our country. It can't just be that we're watching news on television. It can't even just be that we're actively engaged in politics and being somewhat activists.

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1563.376 - 1566.457 Jeremy Boreing

How are we to live our lives in light of the moment in which we live?

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1566.537 - 1585.78 Michael Knowles

You know, there's a big debate that's been on the right, and it's become more emphasized in recent years. And it's actually a very old debate between the classical understanding of freedom and the more modern understanding of freedom. And the way that it's usually summarized is by Lord Acton, who says that freedom is not the ability to do what we wish, but the right to do what we ought.

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1586.34 - 1606.629 Michael Knowles

And I certainly subscribe to that view of things. But what that means is exactly what Jeremy was just saying, which is that The ways in which our freedoms have been restricted in recent years, by Joe Biden certainly, and by many liberals, is that he denied us the right to do what we ought to do. He said if you go to your church, you're going to be spied on by the FBI.

1606.989 - 1624.3 Michael Knowles

He said that if you run a Catholic hospital, we're going to sue you, even if you're nuns. He said if you go pray peacefully in front of a Planned Parenthood abortion mill, we're going to throw you in prison. He was denying you the right to do what you ought to do. You see this in the attacks on marriage, the attacks on education, the attacks on children.

1624.54 - 1646.775 Michael Knowles

We could be here all night listing these attacks on what we have a right to do. Now we have the right to do those things. President Trump has passed a number of executive orders that have really taken the government out of the business of oppressing Christians and families and kids and all the like. But that means that now we have to go to church. That means we have to form our families.

1647.056 - 1662.9 Michael Knowles

That means we have to educate our kids. We do have the right to do those things. We do have our freedom back. But that freedom doesn't mean anything. It's kind of like with free speech. Free speech doesn't mean anything if you don't have anything to say. So you have to live out those substantive goods in your life.

1668.379 - 1670.261 Jeremy Boreing

I hate it when people clap for you. I really do.

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