Before Rome came the Etruscans - they were the dominant culture in ancient Italy in the centuries before Rome's imperial expansion. But how did they fall?In this episode of the Ancients, Tristan Hughes is joined by archeologist Lucy Shipley to chronicle the decline of this once mighty ancient superpower that ruled the Mediterranean for hundreds of years. Together, they dive into the rich archaeological evidence that the Etruscans have left behind, including tomb paintings and pottery and explore how the legacy of Etruscan culture endured under harsh Roman rule.To listen to Lucy's previous appearance on The Ancients - The Etruscans - click herePresented by Tristan Hughes. Audio editor is Aidan Lonergan, the producer is Joseph Knight. The senior producer is Anne-Marie Luff.The Ancients is a History Hit podcast.Sign up to History Hit for hundreds of hours of original documentaries, with a new release every week and ad-free podcasts. Sign up at https://www.historyhit.com/subscribe. You can take part in our listener survey at https://uk.surveymonkey.com/r/6FFT7MK.All music courtesy of Epidemic Sound
Chapter 1: What were the Etruscans and how did they rise to power?
In a recent poll we released on Spotify, we asked which overlooked civilisation you wanted us to cover next, and the Etruscans ended up on top. It was the Etruscans who the Romans would topple as the leading power in central Italy. Stories about which would become embellished with myths and heroic legends retold by later Roman writers like Livy. So what do we know about the Etruscan decline?
What does the literature tell us? And also, what does the archaeology tell us? How do the Etruscans go from major players in the western Mediterranean to subjects of Rome? That is what we're going to cover today. It's The Ancients on History Hit. I'm Tristan Hughes, your host, and joining me to talk through the fall of the Etruscans is the author and Etruscan expert, Dr Lucy Shipley.
Now, I've interviewed Lucy once before, two years ago, all about the origins and the rise of the Etruscans in the early first millennium BC. We will put a link to that episode in the description of this one because this is almost a continuation of that episode. We've done the origins and rise, now we're doing the zenith and fall of the Etruscans.
We're going to start this episode by looking at the Etruscans at the height of their power and then how it ultimately came crashing down in the face of Rome. Lucy was brilliant. She knows so much and is so enthusiastic about all things Etruscans. And I really do hope you enjoy. Lucy, it is wonderful to have you back on the podcast.
Chapter 2: What archaeological evidence reveals about Etruscan culture?
Oh, thank you so much. I'm thrilled to be back.
You're more than welcome. I think last time we chatted it was some two years ago now, wasn't it? And we covered the earlier stage of the Etruscans, their origins and their rise to supremacy. But this is the other end. Is it Etruscans versus Rome or is it more complicated than that when we're studying their fall?
I think it's always more complicated than that. I'm sure if you ask any of your guests, they're going to say, oh, it's always a bit more complicated than that. And I'm not going to be the exception.
And I'm going to be naughty as well because I know that you want to talk about the fall of the Etruscans, but I just want to take a little bit of time to really enjoy them at their height because it's such an easy thing to do, isn't it? We talk about the rise and the origins and then we're straight through the good part and then on to the destruction and the end.
And I don't want to just race to the ending. I want to really... examine and go into all the ways in which the Etruscans were really flourishing at their peak, if that's okay.
Yes, let's do that. Let's kick it off with the Etruscans. Set the scene with us, Lucy. Who were the Etruscans and define their world when they are at their peak?
Yep. Reminders for everybody that is kind of not listened to, not listened to the first part of the Etruscans episode as a warm-up for this. Come on, people. So we are talking central Italy. The heartland of the Etruscans is that land between the River Tiber, the river that flows through Rome, and the River Arno that flows through Florence, if that gives you a nice little boundary.
What we're going to be talking about today is the kind of period where they're at their absolute height. So we are talking about So we'll probably start around 600 BC, and then we'll roll forwards in time from there.
So I think in our last episode, we talked a lot about historical texts, the issue of the Etruscans being featured in a lot of other people's historical texts, but not leaving us very much of their own writings, although we know they were writing.
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Chapter 3: What were the key factors in the decline of the Etruscans?
Chapter 4: How did the Etruscans interact with Rome?
Yeah it's kind of infiltrated into her so it's that influence so she has this very powerful mother-in-law and it's giving her ideas effectively is the
Oh, Tanaquil comes back into it. Okay, gotcha.
Yeah, so Tanaquil is still kind of in the picture with all of this insanity going on. Although she kind of fades out. I'd love to know if this is all real. Goodness knows what she's thinking at all of this. She's sort of watching behind her hands going, oh my God, what have I unleashed?
But in the end, really, if we think about it from her perspective, it ends up going pretty well for her because her son ends up being king after all of this has kind of calmed down, after the body has been cleared up out of the street. It's Tarquinius Superbus who goes on to become king in Rome. But you can only outrun your karma for so long and they end up being kicked out in their turn.
This is another really famous story that I think a lot of people will know. And it's actually their son who kind of causes this problem. It's that rape of Lucretia story. So I think I referred to this when I was on the podcast before, this idea that, you know, Lucretia is a good Roman woman. She is at home. She is doing textile making. She is weaving.
And the king's son sort of says that there's an argument over women and which women are more virtuous. And the Etruscan women of the court are sort of drinking and partying and having a lovely time because apparently that's what Etruscan women do, party girls. And actually, Lucretia is a good Roman wife and she's not doing that. So of course, you always want what you can't have.
And you've seen this exemplary woman, the king's son decides that he wants her for his own and he sexually assaults her. And then we have this kind of knock-on ripple of effects that end up with him and his father being thrown out of Rome. And that's the end of the Etruscan kings in Rome. But it's very interesting because, again, it's that kind of fairy tale.
These are bad people and bad things happen to them. But it's not as straightforward as, oh, they're out and they're gone. Sextus Tarquinius is the son, the bad prince who makes this decision and causes all this trouble. And he ends up being murdered in another city of Gabii, which is just close by Rome.
Thank you.
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