Talking Counter
Episode 122: First reactions of new rosters, HLTV Awards, Updates, and VRS
Tue, 28 Jan 2025
Moses, YNk, and SPUNJ are Talking Counter during their annual pilgrimage to IEM Katowice Join our Discord to discuss the episode and Talk Counter with other viewers of the podcast https://discord.gg/qaE2RTr6 00:00 Intro 11:50 hltv awards ~20:20 cs update 34:50 vrs cutoff point 56:10 CCT shadowbans 1:13:20 Spirit are Kato favorites 1:20:20 Eternal Fire 1:25:10 HeavyGod and G2 1:32:20 Liquid 1:45:20 mouse -siuhy
Chapter 1: What are the HLTV Awards and how were they received?
I'm trying to get as far away from Chad as possible. Not because he smells or anything, just because I feel like we'll bleed into each other's mics. Which sounds like a euphemism for something cock related, but it really isn't.
Yeah.
Talking about that, Jason, you got any cousins who are available?
Yeah, we just hit up Elo Tool. It's a prime cucking fucking business.
Because I want to get my hands on fucking one of these.
He's brought gags.
He's brought prop comedy. Not this one. This one is fucking... It's losing its value, isn't it?
It's... Pretty soon you won't be able to travel to Canada or Mexico without it.
It's war now. No, I mean like it's war now. You need a new one. You've had it for 10 years.
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Chapter 2: What are the latest updates in Counter-Strike?
It's at the end of its road.
How are we critiquing Jason's room this time? It's better than the last time.
That's good. Yeah, because he hasn't had enough time to screw it up more.
True.
Three very jet lagged people here doing this podcast.
I'll be fine. I'll be fine. It's not bad coming back from Australia to Europe.
It's 10 a.m. for you right now.
Is it?
9.30?
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of the VRS cutoff point?
Yeah, about that. That's the time I was waking up, some mornings. I don't know why. It's just occasionally... That's not morning. That's still the night. No, that's the morning.
Mornings are from... Here we go. Anything before six, you're like...
a guy in a car trying to guy getting cocked trying to sell like business stock on tiktok or well not tiktok anymore at least not in the u.s but you know telling like yeah i wake up at 4 a.m i get my workout in i eat 17 eggs and some broccoli then i go back i do another workout you know then i shower what do you against david goggins and jocko willick he's on like grindset mindset
You got to love both of them.
There's no need to do that, man. Even if you look at just biology, your internal clock is like you're sort of naturally supposed to wake up as the sun goes up. You're waking up in the middle of the night to start your day in the middle of the night. You're just being silly. You can't tweet about it if you don't get up before everybody else. And you go to bed at 7 p.m. Sick.
Yeah, that's the famous saying, the early bird gets all the interactions.
Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, on the X platform. The best platform. With all the cock chairs. No, but I really regulated my travel day. I did upgrade myself to business. Good for you. Nice. I just like, I could have gone in economy and the plane would have been empty. I fucking knew it. But you never know until you get to the airport.
I had that. I had the empty plane today. It's rough. I went up to the lady and I was just like, it seems like there's not a lot of people here. Could you maybe throw me in a row where there's nobody?
Did that happen?
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Chapter 4: How are teams preparing for the upcoming major?
Yeah. Okay. I see. Yeah. I see that now. I don't know. Where was the, what was the flight time?
13 and a half hours.
Oh, then it could have been a good time. Yeah. It would have been the only time. It would have been the best time. Now you're married and you have a kid and it's all over. You'll never be doing that. You'll remember that time, Jason.
I'll never have first class from Abu Dhabi ever again.
I fell first class a couple of times. Really? Yeah, but it was on Swiss and Lufthansa, which are like... I thought you were going to say Ryanair. They're not the same as your, you know... Qatar's. Qatar's, Emirates or Singapore. My dream is to fly Singapore Airlines first class one time.
But because I could, you know, if you are in business, you can just use one of your vouchers to go to first class. Right. Okay. It's free and you can do it. And I did it one time when we were going to Shanghai. I think we had business class already from the TO or something when I was coaching FaZe.
Must be nice.
And then it got upgraded. And the best part about it in Lufthansa, for example, it's just like the stuff around the flight itself. The flight, yeah, the seat is a bit bigger. It's like all that stuff is a little bit nicer. Food, drinks are nicer. But as you step out of the airplane in Shanghai, there's people waiting for you there. You go straight to the counter for passport control.
Oh, that's nice. There's no lines.
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Chapter 5: Why are Spirit considered favorites at Katowice?
the tan and the lifting did its part yeah no the sun was good the beach was good it was sad to leave how do you go leaving your children don't you get really sad yeah it's hard man let's get into it guys actually did you cry jason uh not this time i did before the major because the major was like four and a half weeks so that was a rough did you well up at least I did well up. Yeah.
She was in a cranky mood when I flew out today.
I didn't make it easy.
It did make it easy.
It wasn't like a lingering long hugging goodbye. I was like, all right, sweetie, I'm leaving for like two weeks. I'm going to miss you. Give me a kiss. And she was like, no! And I was like, oh, you've just killed dad. You've actually just wrecked me for the next two weeks.
Yeah, but you'll be back. It'll be fine. We rebound quick.
Well, you're at the stage where you definitely don't have that yet. No, but this is the longest I've been in one span. At home? Yeah, ever since she was born. So it was awesome. I've just been chilling, spending time with the fam. So it was great. And she's at the phase now where she's starting to notice things more and react to you and smile at you and all of that.
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Chapter 6: What is the status of Eternal Fire in the current scene?
Interact with the environment.
Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. So it's definitely been... the toughest living home ever, really. So, but, you know, it is what it is. That's the job.
You fucking pussies. You live the dream job. Why do you care about your families? This is Counter-Strike, all right?
I do care about my family, but I also, but no, but it's also the job. It's like, I feel like, you know, I don't like, when I'm here, I focus on this, right? Obviously, I don't, you know, I don't cut off all communication for two weeks, but it's like... I do.
I do.
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Chapter 7: What are the discussions around HeavyGod and G2?
What?
I thought he cut off communication to us today, man. The amount of messages. I was like, Jason, did you see that thing? And he's like, what? I'm like, in the other group. And he's like, oh yeah, I haven't looked at that.
There were like three of those over the span of the last two days. I didn't even know this group existed. Like in my head.
it was full and i was on the airplane so like it's never been established in my head this group is something i need to look at oh dear but yeah it's like if if you can't be with them physically like might as well focus oh yeah as possible and you don't get it done that way you don't feel like it's a waste or anything like that sure it's cool you're you're
The point for me is the way I look at it, I'm 100% committed. When I'm home, I'm 100% committed. When I'm here, I'm 100% committed to work. That's how I sort of rationalize it. He's watching a fucking podcast of us with Snappy.
Is that Snappy? That one is Snappy. That is the Snappy episode.
Yeah, it's back on. Nice one, Jason.
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Chapter 8: What challenges does Team Liquid face?
Thank you.
Why did it get removed? What are you trying to do? It's fucking Apple devices.
I just wanted to see when the last episode was. when was it two weeks ago yeah I think it was like 11 or 12 days it was on the 10th oh yeah he's right yeah I was in my head I was trying to think what has happened since Blast Bounty Blast Bounty HLTV Awards well we don't need to go over that unless you guys want to anything special from that you guys have fun yeah
Yeah. I mean, the award. It feels understated. The show itself, the stage was better. That part was a little bit better thought out and everything.
It wasn't as long. It was a bit more snappy. It wasn't as long? No, it was shorter, definitely shorter. It felt long. For me, it didn't feel long. It felt real quick. It felt much quicker this time around than last time.
It felt like a good amount of time for me. I don't, I mean...
Last time dragged, this time didn't. Okay. Yeah. I think there's like a lot of good improvements made to things.
I think it was fun, man. It was like, that was a cool event to be at because it's like, it reminded me of like the early days of like CSGO, like up to like 2018 before like teams and players really started to like sink down and treat it like a profession, which is a good thing. But the events back then were so much different because it was like everyone just sort of hanging out.
Well, they don't have to play at that event, right? Some of them were bootcamping. That's the difference. And that's probably what I think a lot of teams should think about when they're starting their year. It's a nice opportunity to be social, not only with your teammates, but your peers, right? The people that you're playing against, the people within the space. Yeah.
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