Talking Counter
Episode 117: Shanghai Major Opening Stage and the Top 16 teams at the Major
Wed, 04 Dec 2024
moses, SPUNJ, and YNk are Talking Counter on the day off before the Elimination Stage begins. Join our Discord to discuss the episode with other viewers and Talk Counter with us. https://discord.gg/BCCC7UW9 00:00 Intro 11:15 Chad tilts Jason off the face of the earth 19:07 CS Talk Begins
Chapter 1: What happens during the off day before the Elimination Stage?
Wow. A mood. A good mood. I was, I was just like, I was awake and I was active and I had energy. So I just decided to capitalize on the situation. You guys went out with trance and it's an off day.
Yeah.
And there was, I mean, it was a group of 12 of us as well. So you know how that goes. It's like split up into tables of four. I heard. Yeah, for the Korean barbecue split up into tables of four is quite nice. I love that arrangement for the teams. I love the way that you have all the information as well. Where'd you get the scouting report?
I left the main group because the other day you I know we were spamming stickers. I'm fucking out. You left the group. Dude, I was laughing so hard.
I don't know what I was doing. I think I was in a face or some shit. And then I checked my phone and I see the group has 41 messages. I'm like, oh shit, maybe there's like important in here. I open it's just fucking stickers. I'm like, fuck these idiots.
We won't talk what kind of stickers. Also, for all you guys in the Discord that want Chad back, never going to happen. He's leaving the group of people where a couple of us he actually likes.
We were laughing. We were just spamming those stickers and we were having a few drinks and I looked down and see Chad has left the group. And I was like, you know what? That's fair. That makes sense.
How did you see that? I thought only the person who made the group could see that. No, everyone sees it. Oh, okay. Well, fuck all.
Yeah, literally everyone just was like, oh, yes, Chad's gone. All right, well.
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Chapter 2: What did the teams do at Korean barbecue?
Who's the fourth? And then it was Connor, Launders, Maui, and Dinko at the other table.
And then Trance and... Connor, Launders, Maui, Dinko.
But they were like almost together as a group of eight. So there was just like a small way to pass between the two tables. So it wasn't really... They were like in the back of the restaurant where there was just this four tables.
It was four tables in like the size of this hotel room. So we were all reasonably close to each other.
Okay, so you could talk to each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I thought maybe you'd be placed at all different areas.
No, no, no. Okay, well, that changes.
Yeah. Maui suggested we sit in order of ELO, but, you know, everyone discarded it. Fair enough.
Look, it's a suggestion.
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Chapter 3: What are the current dynamics in the Counter-Strike scene?
difference with like when i did the afternoon well it's not an afternoon shift just the late late morning shift uh was there's no waiting around with the games whereas like because they said initially this is china not pgl so that they were going to be doing a rolling schedule but their rolling schedule is it starts on time and if the game is late we try and start as quickly as possible possible so another miscommunication so just a schedule just a schedule um so like you there was no waiting around or there's no waiting around in the mornings other than
When you do the two best of ones and the one best of three, if things are ahead of schedule.
To be honest, I did swap last day of the RMRs with Dust, so I could catch a flight on Sunday. So I did the 4 a.m. games. And the biggest problem is, bro, for me, it was just like, what do I eat?
yeah but i got like protein bars and people like bring stuff or like order the day before a wrap or something and just bring it over like i guess but that was the biggest point it's like there's only mcdonald's open yeah and maybe one kebab yeah i think some of the guys been ordering kebabs this is gonna be my fucking first yeah but i'm happy to fast through that and then like or just eat like a protein bar or some shit and then eat something good by the time we're done yeah it's like a long time bro yeah it's not really though you do two best of three yeah that's fine
I was grabbing those little meat sticks from the well, I mean, once you get used to it, I guess it's better. But like, you know, and yeah, you're back at the hotel for breakfast.
What were you eating? Jason?
I grabbed that. Well, I did mostly fasting, but a couple of times one grabbed those little like beef jerky sticks they got done.
I went and bought like cashews from across the roads, you know, like a handful of nuts and have a protein bar, you know, have a shake a coffee fucking away you go.
It's plenty of plenty of Snickers bars as well in the studio.
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Chapter 4: How has Astralis performed recently?
Maybe they would have taken a risk and tried something different.
I feel like they had a couple. I mean, I couldn't identify them in terms of like a timeline, but I feel like they had a couple of those events where it was like, dude, a change has to happen. And then they do well enough to keep that lineup just on life support.
They won like Sean Copping or something, right? Yeah, they did. Like that was the end of last season. 2020.
three yeah right no no this year it was this year oh yeah it was yes yes yes yes but like they had enough of those yeah they had enough of those wins to keep this lineup going on life support it's like what the joke when your kinder gets a 20 bomb and people are like oh he's just secured another two years yeah that kind of a thought process yeah
So it's tough, but man, wildcard, really impressive stuff. Like Stan, he's done it again. And I'll tell you, people are bringing up those complexity teams from before. I played both majors against his teams. I played in the London major. It was the quarterfinal. It was in the playoffs. We played against them.
There was like Yay and Ricky and stuff, wasn't it?
Yeah, I think so. Fucking hell. And that was like... I mean, that game was like relatively easy in a way, but just because I had much superior players, especially on that stage, right? They just took care of business, the MIBR lineup. But then with FaZe, it was, I think, the 2-2 game at the Katowice Major. And that one was like... kind of tough.
Like, I mean, I want to say his team were always well drilled, even with him not having the talent, right? Like you could tell the way they were playing is like, all right, these guys have good fundamentals, right? They don't really beat themselves like too often and that sort of a thing. So it always feels like with him, it just came down to some...
you know, interpersonal stuff and, like, I don't know, the relationships with perhaps some of the players or in the liquid, like, you know, the meme Daps always comes in and takes his spot. Like, even once he's coached and moved into the IGL role, Stan was removed. So...
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