Surrounded
Why It Always Comes Back to Butt Stuff | We Followed Up With Zander Moricz
Sun, 18 May 2025
John Regalado sits down with Zander Moricz, to revisit the most heated moments of his surrounded debate. They discuss Trans Youth, misinformation, and the future of LGBTQ+ politics. Follow our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@jubilee Follow Zander Moricz & SEE Alliance: https://www.instagram.com/zandermoricz https://seeourpower.org https://x.com/zandermoricz Follow John Regalado: https://x.com/odalager_j https://www.youtube.com/@j_regalado Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What was Zander's experience like during the debate?
What you're actually trying to say is that the agenda that LGBT activists... There is no agenda. Everyone has an agenda. It doesn't matter.
Will the LGBTQ activists make it sound like there's a coordinated agenda when in reality there's a bunch of people who want equal rights?
If you're an organized group, you have an agenda.
We're not organized. I promise we're disorganized.
Okay.
Yeah, I think it's just important to note that the queer and trans community is not the Illuminati, and we don't meet underground once a season and conveniently inspire and place people in positions of power and decide, okay, we're all going to start saying this, we're going to start doing this, we're going to contact HBO and make them push this. Like, that is not happening, I think.
And I think it's just important to unpack that, because people do genuinely believe that there are punch cards, and it's like... It is a membership. It is being queer and trans as a political movement. And our attempt is to change the political structure of the United States of America. And in reality, that's just not true.
Identity has been politicized and therefore it has to come forward in politics. Either queer and trans people stick up for themselves and say, no, I deserve and demand civil rights or we don't get them. And now because we've been forced into this political situation because of an identity that is not inherently political, it's politicized.
I think I totally understand what you're saying. You're not a card-holding queer. That's not a thing. And I think that makes sense. I think on the flip side, I can see what Michael's saying, though, is there are organizations that have political methods and goals to further the rights of the LGBTQ plus community. And so at the end of the day, I think it is just a reality.
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Chapter 2: How did Zander get involved in LGBTQ+ activism?
Okay, so how many irreversible gender-affirming care procedures have been done on ages 13 or under in the United States of America?
Listen, just the idea that you even put them on puberty blockers, that's irreversible. Do you understand that?
Not all puberty blockers are irreversible. New treatments are coming in every day. So let me break down the stats.
No, no, no. Puberty blockers, do you know what puberty blockers are? Puberty blockers is Lupron. That is the brand name for puberty blockers, Lupron. Lupron is used on children, 8 to 13-year-olds, to pause their puberty.
Okay, so let's break this down.
It is the same drug used in chemical castration for pedophiles.
If I thought that 8 to 13-year-olds— Okay, if I thought age of 13 year olds would be chemically castrated, that would be horrible. That would be evil. That would be unacceptable. So that's not what's happening. Well, no, let's break it down. I would love to break it down for you.
This is where I think like, I guess my first question is like trans issues are taking a ton of oxygen in the political arena. Yeah. Like arena right now. And I mean, Jubilee does this as well as anybody because we've made a lot of content circling these issues and it. it just keeps coming up and people care a lot about it.
Do you ever wonder if it would be better now that we're in this moment in time where, you know, gay marriage is legal to, to start differentiating groups? Like, do you ever worry that like the bucketing harms the movement or harms the public? Yeah. Why not?
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