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The Scribble on Scrabble

Tue, 11 Mar 2025

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Scrabble is a game that neither of us plays with regularity. And maybe that's good for this episode. We're all learning, right?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: Who are the hosts and what is this episode about?

00:11 - 00:35 Josh

Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck, and Jerry's here too, and this is Stuff You Should Know. Good old-fashioned pop culture games edition. Yeah. And yeah, here we are, finally talking about Scrabble. I've been asking for you to do this with me for... at least a decade and you kept refusing. I still don't know why.

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00:35 - 00:45 Josh

Even Jerry chimed in and was like, will you guys please do Scrabble? And finally you relented. I think just because you wanted me and Jerry to stop bothering you about it.

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00:45 - 00:59 Chuck

That was probably it. A big thanks to Laura for her help on this one. What was your nickname for her? Dr. Claw. Dr. Claw. Do you play Scrabble? Are you a Scrabbler? I just kind of wanted to get that out of the way.

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Chapter 2: Do the hosts play Scrabble regularly?

01:00 - 01:08 Josh

You know, I wish I were. I'm not, and it's not like I have an aversion to it or anything like that. It's just not part of my world, I guess, you know?

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01:09 - 01:23 Chuck

Yeah, same. I mean, we own it, and I have played Scrabble here and there. If somebody's like, hey, let's play Scrabble, I won't go like, no, sorry, not going to do it. But, you know, I'll play very occasionally, but I've never been a regular Scrabbler.

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01:24 - 01:31 Chuck

Nor am I very good at it at all, especially if I'm playing against somebody who, you know, because there's a lot more to it than just like knowing words.

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01:31 - 01:46 Josh

Well, I feel like based on Stuff You Should Know history, our best episodes are ones where we explain games that we don't actually play. Soccer, chess. Yeah. I mean, the list just keeps going on. I feel like we're about to add to it.

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00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

Yeah. Surfing?

00:00 - 00:00 Josh

Yeah, surfing.

Chapter 3: What are the basic rules and scoring in Scrabble?

01:49 - 02:00 Chuck

I mean, we should probably just say that Scrabble, if you don't know, it's a board game in which two to four players use letters, little tiles, to spell out words on a board in a crossword-like fashion.

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02:01 - 02:02 Josh

Wow, that was a good description, Chuck.

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02:03 - 02:18 Chuck

In other words, you know, the words have to intersect each other. You can't just throw a random word out there in the corner if you feel like it. They have to touch and use a letter, or I guess a blank space, for another word. Yeah.

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02:18 - 02:38 Chuck

And, by the way, I just want to go ahead and – because Scrabble people are probably going to get mad at us, but I'm going to go ahead and throw out a suggested rule change. Okay. There is a word, Scrabble, and that means to – as a verb, to scratch or grope, to try and collect something, or as a noun, the act of doing that. And I propose –

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Chapter 4: Are there any proposed rule changes for Scrabble?

02:39 - 02:54 Chuck

that if you play that eight-letter word, that not only do you get your bingo bonus for playing a seven-letter word, I think you should, if you play the word Scrabble, you should get an extra bonus on top of that. Of how many points? A million? Whatever's fair. That's where I just step back and say you guys handle it.

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02:55 - 03:19 Josh

Okay. You like to kick the hornet's nest and then watch him go. I just think, I don't know, if you play the word Scrabble, give it just a little bump. I agree. I think you're right. All right. That's my only suggestion. My only note. A little more about it. The Scrabble board is 15 by 15 squares, 225 total squares. And because it's 15 by 15, you're limited to no more than 15 letter words. Sure.

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03:21 - 03:46 Josh

And I guess just a quick summary of the rules. So when you play that first word, you have to play it in the center square. That's where you start. And you can build off of other people's words. You get up to 15-letter words by building onto other words because you could never spell more than a seven-letter word because at no point in time do you ever have more than seven tiles.

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03:47 - 04:02 Chuck

Right. And as I said, that seven tiles played at once is called a bingo. You add up your score at the end and tack on 50 points at that point. Right. Or however many you get. Apparently, experts can play like... you know, three, four or five of those in a game sometimes.

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00:00 - 00:00 Josh

Yeah. Oh yeah. That's a great way to run up scores from what I can tell. And then across the board, there's triple word scores, double word scores, double letter scores, and triple letter scores. And basically when you lay a tile over that, depending on whether it's a letter or a word, you get bonus points for it.

00:00 - 00:00 Josh

So when you're like, like if you play a bingo across like a triple word score, you got a bunch of points. You basically just dusted your opponent in that one move essentially.

00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

Yeah, I mean, if you're just sort of amateur, funsies, Scrabble people, one big bingo like that can seal the game for you.

00:00 - 00:00 Josh

Yeah, it's called sending them packing with tears in their eyes, I think.

00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

In France, by the way, the bingo is called a scrabble. Just other nuts and bolts. You know, the tiles come in a little. They're little wooden tiles, little wooden square tiles. And on the tile is a letter and then a point value sort of as a subscript. And then you keep your letters on a little wooden tile rack. And you ideally your opponent does not see those. Right.

Chapter 5: How did Scrabble become a popular game?

05:50 - 06:14 Josh

Yeah, for sure. And it's not like evenly distributed. For example, there's 12 E's, but there's only one J, K, Q, X, and Z. And then the other letters are just kind of distributed in weird, random ways. So that, like, you could, I guess, easily count that stuff. If you play Scrabble enough, you're just going to pick up on how many are out there at any given point. Yeah.

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06:14 - 06:30 Chuck

Yeah, you've also got your blank tiles, which are worth zero points, but those really help out in making words possible that you couldn't get ordinarily. And then you've got your one-pointers, A-E-I-L-N-O-R-S-T, and you.

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06:30 - 06:58 Josh

And also, just real quick, I did some poking around, Chuck. And I found that there's some mnemonic devices that like tournament level players use to remember how many points a particular letter gets. You should say that after I list them all. Well, I was going to just do it by group, if that's okay with you. Sure. So the first group, one point, they use astronauts eat in limbo.

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06:58 - 07:02 Josh

No, right, silly tiger. Umbrella.

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00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

All right. The two pointers are D and G. Dave and Gary. Okay. I would say doggone. Three points are B, C, M, and P. That is be chewing and masticating pizza. Does someone really suggest like, hey, use these and don't make up your own? No, I'm making this up. I got you. This is all a bit.

00:00 - 00:00 Unknown

Mm-hmm.

00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

Okay. Four points. We got F, H, V, and W, and Y. Right.

00:00 - 00:00 Josh

So, for heaven's sake, Y, U. Okay. I get it now.

00:00 - 00:00 Jerry

Mm-hmm. You should have told me this was a bit. Five pointers, you get your K. K. Okay.

Chapter 6: Who invented Scrabble and how did it evolve?

08:06 - 08:10 Chuck

I think I got it. You got it? Yeah, give me a quiz at the end. I'll put this away, and then you can just quiz me.

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08:11 - 08:12 Josh

Yeah, once you learn that, you'll never forget it.

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08:15 - 08:32 Chuck

There is a statistics professor at Carnegie Mellon, Andrew Thomas, who, who says if you go first, you have an advantage of 14 points. If you have that blank tile ever in the game, that's an advantage of 30 points if you're good at Scrabble, not like me.

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08:32 - 08:48 Josh

Right. There's also, like if you have S tiles, there's a 10-point advantage. And the reason why I was like, that doesn't make any sense because S, as you remember from your mnemonic device, is only a one-point tile. You should throw that on the end though, right? Yeah, that's the thing.

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00:00 - 00:00 Josh

So like if you add, if you, like I said, you can add on to other words that are already on the board, even ones that another player wrote out. And whatever word score they got for that word, if you add an S, you get that same word score plus one point for the S. So that's a really easy way to rack up some quick points. Totally. And I think also probably annoy other players.

00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

I wonder about that. I'd like to hear from from Scrabblers. I mean, if it's fair game, it's fair game.

00:00 - 00:00 Josh

Yes. And there's but there's plenty of rules that are fair game that are also like you're a jackass.

00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

Yeah, that's a good point. Let me see here. What else do we have? We have X and Z give you a three to five point advantage. Mm hmm. even though they're tougher to use. And the Q is a five-point disadvantage because, I mean, I was about to say you always have to have that U, but I'm sure there are weird Scrabble words that don't have a QU. There's two that I know of. One is key. QI?

00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

Yeah, I think I heard that.

Chapter 7: What happened to Scrabble during the ownership changes?

11:58 - 12:04 Chuck

Yeah, but like if I were to play with Ruby, and I'd probably say like, hey, we can use proper nouns because she'll want to put our dog's name or something.

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12:05 - 12:05 Josh

Yeah.

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12:08 - 12:08 Jerry

Right.

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12:09 - 12:19 Chuck

I did look up the highest scoring bingo, and that is Muzjiks, M-U-Z-J-I-K-S, which is a Russian peasant.

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00:00 - 00:00 Josh

Wow.

00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

It's probably Muzjiks or something.

00:00 - 00:00 Josh

Yeah. I like it both ways, though. Muzzjicks. Muzzjicks. Look at all the Muzzjicks toiling in the fields. Yeah. I like that. So I was confused because there's a lot of, like, one of the rules is no proper nouns, no words that end in apostrophe or require an apostrophe. Yeah. And then also no foreign words.

00:00 - 00:00 Josh

But clearly some foreign words are allowed in because they're so common in English that they've just basically been adopted into the language. I get that. But a musjix is not a common word in English. So it must mean that that does appear in some English dictionary somewhere because that's kind of the great ruler, arbiter. But I just don't see how it could be. That's just weird to me.

00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

Well, what's weird is your college band, I know for a fact, was Jay Clark and the Muzz Chicks.

Chapter 8: Is there a competitive aspect to playing Scrabble?

15:58 - 16:03 Chuck

Yeah, at the time. And he was just into gaming and wanted to invent a game that was part chance, part skill.

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16:04 - 16:27 Josh

Yeah, so he did not have a great success with it out of the gate. He initially tried to call it Lexico and crisscross words, and he took it around to game manufacturers, and they were like, nah, I'm not really feeling this. And that was the way it went for a good decade before a man named James Bruneau bought the rights. He saw something in it that I guess other people didn't.

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16:27 - 16:47 Josh

He renamed it Scrabble. He changed the gameplay a little bit. One of the biggest changes he made was that the way that Mosier Butts had come up with is that you just thought the word in like a kind of a mental version of the board and the other player hopefully was able to pick up on the word you were thinking.

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16:47 - 16:56 Josh

And so Bruno was like, maybe we should just replace this with an actual board and tiles. And that really kind of helped move things along a bunch.

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00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

Yeah, you know, I looked up this James Bruneau, and, you know, we get a lot of great information a lot of times from New York Times obituaries. And he was a friend of Butts, and so they used to play Scrabble together on occasion, like their homemade version. And once this guy took it over, he and his wife Helen, like, operated out of their house

00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

And he was like, at a certain point, like, all that was in our house was boxes of tiles and racks and boards. And we couldn't move around. So they had to, they moved to an abandoned schoolhouse. And then eventually a converted woodworking shop. And they had 35 employees working two shifts, producing 6,000 Scrabble sets a week. Wow. By 53, by 1953. Wow.

00:00 - 00:00 Josh

So within five years of him buying the rights.

00:00 - 00:00 Chuck

That is correct, sir.

00:00 - 00:00 Josh

Okay, so the year before that, I've seen it told as a legend or a widely told story, Laura put it. I don't know why no one's like, yeah, that's what happened. But supposedly the president of Macy's came across the game. I'm not sure how. Played it, liked it, ordered a bunch to stock up. Of course, that meant Gimbels immediately followed suit. And so the game took off from there.

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