Serialously with Annie Elise
276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Mon, 19 May 2025
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Chapter 1: What new updates are there in the Idaho 4 case?
Ich möchte auch über einige der Theorien sprechen, über die neuen Zeitlinien, die entdeckt worden sind. Ich möchte einfach über alles sprechen. Also, wenn das etwas ist, worauf du interessiert bist, bist du im richtigen Ort und wir werden genau dazugehen. Wie gesagt, war diese Episode etwa eine Stunde und eine halbe lang und sie war voll mit Informationen.
So I want to break this down into a couple of parts. First, we can briefly go over some of the new faces that we saw interviewed in this episode. Because these people who spoke were kind of, I think, interviewed a lot for the shock factor and to build on Brian's odd behaviors and his character pre-murders. Denn es war nicht jemand, der direkt mit dem Fall verbunden war.
Es waren keine Mitglieder der Gefühlsfamilie oder so etwas, sondern Leute, die durch Proxy verbunden waren, wenn das Sinn macht. Also möchte ich über sie sprechen. Dann möchte ich über die Zeitung gehen, weil dies auf jeden Fall eines der größten Hinweise von diesem Episode war, zumindest für mich.
Und es fokussiert wirklich auf die Bewegungen, die zu den Mördern geführt haben, die Mörder selbst, wer möglicherweise der Ziel war. und etwas mehr über das Thema. Und ich möchte auch über Theorien sprechen, weil, wie Sie sich vorstellen können, jetzt mit dieser neuen Information, kommen mehr Theorien heraus, mehr Spekulationen, die Puzzle-Spiele werden zusammengesetzt.
Chapter 2: What insights were gained from the recent Dateline episode?
Wie gesagt, es gab nicht ganz viele Leute, die für dieses Episode interviewt wurden. Und die Leute, die da waren, ich persönlich denke, dass sie nicht unbedingt für Schockfaktor interviewt wurden, sondern um mehr Kontext zu bringen zu Brian's Charakter, Also die erste Person, die ich kurz erwähnen möchte, ist Angela Nevaez. Sie ist die Mutter von Maddies bester Freund Ashlyn.
Angela hat kurz über Ashlyn und Maddys Beziehung gesprochen, sowie über Maddys Persönlichkeit, wer sie als Person war, ihr Leben, alles insgesamt. Ashlyn ist nicht wirklich jemand, dessen Namen wir super bekannt sind.
Aber der Grund, warum ich es sogar erwähnen wollte und warum ich dieses spezielle Interview erwähnen wollte, ist, weil Ashlyn nicht jemand ist, den wir sehr gut kennen, aber sie könnte es sehr einfach gewesen sein. You see, Ashlyn lived at King Road, at that house, not too long before the murders.
She had recently graduated and she decided that she was going to move back home with her parents inside their house so she could save money, start figuring out her career moves, what she wanted to do with her life. And everyone else who lived in that house was still in college. It was full of sorority girls partying 24-7, just people in and out.
So it kind of made sense for her to move on with her life, to move back home and just, you know, start to leave that party life behind her. However, as we all probably have come to know, November 12th was a very big day in Moscow. And not only was it a big day in hindsight, given what happened, but it was a big game day.
And if you've ever been to college or ever watched Friday Night Lights or anything like that, you know how huge game day is. Auch wenn du Fußball nicht magst oder genießt, ist es Spieltag. Die Gemeinschaft ist in Chaos. Alle sind aufgeregt. Es gibt so viel Energie. Alle werden aufgestanden. Sie gehen aus, um zu feiern. Sie wollen feiern. Es ist ein großer Tag.
Und es ist im Grunde wie eine unerörterte Regel, die du feiern wirst. Und wir wissen, dass das genau das ist, was die Ruhepräsidenten an dem Tag gemacht haben. Also hat Ashlyn die Pläne gemacht, mit Maddie am Abend zu bleiben. Aber ihre Pläne haben sich aber kaputt gemacht, als ihr Vortrag von ihren Eltern wieder aufgeschaltet wurde.
Wegen dessen musste sie zu Hause bleiben und ihre Pferde überwachen. Sie war also nicht mehr am Spieltag, und sie konnte nicht die Nacht mit Maddy bei der King Road House verbringen. Hörte ich diese Geschichte, habe ich mich wirklich ein bisschen überrascht. Ich bin mir sicher, dass es euch auch ein bisschen überrascht hat, wenn ihr es gesehen habt. Denn sie sollte die Nacht mit Maddy verbringen.
Sie wäre im Bett mit ihr gewesen. Sie schläft aus dem Alkohol, denkt nichts davon. Und an dem Zeitpunkt war sie wahrscheinlich wütend, dass sie einen Hund besitzen musste, richtig? Sie war wahrscheinlich wütend und überrascht, dass sie all den Spaß verpasst hat, nicht mal daran zu merken, dass sie wahrscheinlich am Abend gestorben wäre. Sie hätte wahrscheinlich getötet, hätte sie weggegangen.
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Chapter 3: Who are the key players in Bryan Kohberger's story?
Und es gibt einfach keinen anderen Weg, um es zu machen. Sie hätte in der direkten Linie des Feuers gewesen. Und das ist eine wirklich schreckliche Sache, um zu denken. I don't know if you would call it divine intervention or God's plan, whatever you're comfortable calling it.
But that has to weigh heavily on you knowing, holy shit, I could have died last night if I didn't just happen to have to stay home. And what is it called? Like the butterfly effect, right? If her parents' flight hadn't been delayed or canceled, she wouldn't have had to stay home to watch her dogs. She wouldn't still be alive. It's just, it's eerie to think about.
Kind of like Final Destination-y, too. Nun, wie gesagt, einige dieser Interviews fühlten sich ein wenig für Schockwerte oder um Charakter und Verhalten zu illustrieren. Und ich denke, dass das das war, was mit dieser Interview ging. Ich denke, es war ein wenig für Schockwerte, aber es hat funktioniert. Ich habe es nicht mehr stoppt, darüber nachzudenken, seit ich dieses Episode gesehen habe.
Aber eine Veränderung der Pläne hat ihre Tochter's Leben gerettet. Wie schnell war es, dass du dachtest, mein Gott, sie wird da sein?
Oh.
All I could think about was the kids. Makes you sad too, doesn't it? It does. Sorry.
Nun, das zweite Interview, per se, war kein direktes Interview mit einer Person, sondern mit einigen anderen Leuten, die über eine bestimmte Situation gesprochen haben, die wir jetzt sprechen werden. Und ich wollte in diesem Bereich des Episodes hinzufügen, weil ich denke, wenn es wahr ist, zeigt es wirklich einige große rote Flagge in Brian, die zu den Mördern führen.
So there was this discussion about Brian being a teaching assistant, right? And how not many people really liked him. A lot of students felt like he was very sexist, that he would purposefully give women who were in the class bad grades, that he kind of had this like smug, arrogant attitude about him. Und weil er ein TA war, arbeitete er sehr intensiv mit einer Frau namens Nayoung Ko.
Sie haben ein Büro zusammengearbeitet. Sie arbeiteten beidseitig ziemlich regelmäßig, richtig? Und wie gesagt, alles, was ich jetzt beschreiben werde, kommt von anderen Leuten, die die Events beurteilen. Also muss alles mit einem Schluck Salz genommen werden, weil du das Telefon-Spiel kennst, wie Dinge sich über die Zeit verändern können.
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Chapter 4: What were Bryan's Google searches revealing?
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See, before she left her apartment, there was a cake that she had baked and it was still sitting right there on top of the oven. She had messed it up during the baking process and it got burnt, but for whatever reason, she was pressed for time and she didn't have a chance to like chuck it in the garbage before leaving. So she just left it there, right on top of the oven.
Yet when she got home, the cake was inside the microwave. And she didn't have roommates, she didn't have anybody close in her life that she had given a spare key to either. She knew that the cake was burned and that it was probably disgusting, so she definitely wouldn't have mindlessly put it in the microwave so that she could eat it later and store it.
It looked as though somebody came in and intentionally moved it. And on top of that, she went into the bathroom and she found that all of her makeup was perfectly lined up on top of the toilet seat. Sie hat ihre Mascara-Maschinen in der Toilette gehalten. Sie wusste also, dass sie nicht derjenige war, der das nicht gemacht hat. Sie hat es auf einem Toilettenstuhl organisiert.
Man kann es einfach erklären. Eine Maske auf dem Boden. Vielleicht hat sie den Kühlschrank ausgelöst. Oder sogar eine Puff-Maschine, die weggefallen ist. Vielleicht hast du sie übernommen und es nicht bemerkt hast. But now, for her coming home to every single makeup product that she owned just neatly lined up where she never would have put it, that's enough to like fuel a nightmare.
It's very weird, right? It's like, it's so intricate. It's so detailed. So at this point, she was looking around the house for any sign that somebody had broken in and she wanted to make sure she wasn't just like paranoid and losing it. And as she was looking around, that's when she realized that two items that were very near and dear to her were nowhere to be found.
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Chapter 5: How did Bryan's behavior escalate before the murders?
Also hat Dateline diesen Szenario hergestellt, um zu zeigen, dass typische Serialkiller die Wälder testen werden, bevor sie etwas Drastisches machen. Sie gehen von Cyber-Stalking bis zum Piepen in Wänden, dann eskaliert es bis zu vielleicht mehr physischer Stalking. Also könnte das der Fall für Brian gewesen sein? Possibly.
So that kind of then leads us into the timeline of events that Dateline covered. And it seems to me at least like they were trying to establish or at the very least speculate that the murders were premeditated in some way, shape or form.
Now, a lot of this timeline has to do with what was recovered from Brian's phone, because starting in July, his phone pinged at the cell tower closest to the house on King Road. Dann, am 16. August, hat er einen Google-Search über Ted Bundy gemacht. Und das ist, wie es scheint, der Anfang einer fast Obsession mit Ted Bundy.
Denn nachdem er ihn gegoogelt hat, googelt er auch ein Papier, das von einem Professor über Bundy geschrieben wurde, namens Ted Bundy auf das malignante Wesen. Eine Analyse auf den justizierbaren Diskurs eines Serialkilleres.
Nun, wir wissen auch, dass er Kriminalität studiert hat, also vielleicht war dieses Buch für die Schule, vielleicht war es persönlicher Interesse, wir wissen es nicht wirklich. Aber was wir wissen, ist, dass er das Buch gedownloadet hat, ohne Zweifel, um es vollständig lesen und studieren zu können.
And like I said, this was just the beginning of many different videos and searches on his devices regarding Ted Bundy. And we also know, just going back a little bit too, there was other things early on in this investigation that were released that indicated he did have some sort of, not obsession with serial killers, but... Curiosity, maybe that's the word. And a lot of people do, right?
I'm sure a lot of people watching this have been curious about Dahmer, Bundy, whomever it is. That doesn't necessarily make you a murderer. Certainly not. But coupled with other things that could show a pattern of escalation, maybe it is concerning. So, in the months leading up to the murders, Brian's phone also showed some very interesting Google searches that are...
Pretty pornographic in nature. And the thing with Brian's searches was that he had a very niche type of porn that he was interested in. He used specific words such as forced, passed out, drugged, asleep, and those are just to name a few of them. Now, again, is that indicative of somebody being a murderer? Certainly not. Everybody is into their own kinks, their own things.
But you couple that with other things. Forced, passed out, drugged, just harsh sexual material. Harsh for some, not all, I guess. Does it illustrate something more? Now, around this same timeline in September is when the apartment was broken into. And on September 30th, Brian googled »Sociopathic Traits in College Students«.
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Chapter 6: What were the movements of the victims on the night of the tragedy?
And I will say, it's one thing to look up your name one time. I feel like we've all probably done it just to see, you know, what does come up. But multiple times, over an almost two-week period... That feels kind of odd, almost like he's looking for something specific or looking to see if he's hidden. I don't know. So then we move on to November, the month of the murders.
And on November 2nd, he had a meeting with some school officials to go over what they were describing as an improvement plan for Brian, for him as a TA. Like I said, people didn't like him. They felt he pretty much singled out women, that he graded papers harshly and that he just was not good at that role.
Was dieses entsprechende Gespräch trug, scheint vielleicht eine andere rote Flagge zu sein, wenn man sich zurückblickt. Offensichtlich hat Brian einen der Mädchen aus ihrem Auto gefolgt und dann in irgendeiner Art und Weise mit ihr konfrontiert. Worüber? Wir wissen es nicht. Ich würde feststellen, dass es etwas mit seiner Lehrerschaft zu tun hatte.
Vielleicht ein Unterricht, vielleicht ein falsches Grad, ich weiß es nicht genau. But what I do know is, good for her, she immediately reported it and reported him. I'm not sure if other people had maybe also reported him for giving women bad grades or if maybe that was just more town gossip, I don't know. But there was at least one report made against him.
So then, fast forward a little bit more, and on October 7th, Brian's phone yet again pinged off the cell tower near King Road, near the King Road house specifically. And this was the 23rd time that it had pinged off of that tower, within a very pretty short time window as well, 4 months to be exact. 4 months, 23 pings, that's a lot for somewhere that you don't live nearby.
So now I want to get into the days leading up to the murders. Because on November 10th, Brian completely stopped using his debit card. On the 11th, we know that he made an attempt to do what the legal documents refer to as anti-forensic methods to clear evidence from his school computer. Und das ist ein direkter Quote, okay?
Und ich denke, dass dieser Detail ziemlich wichtig war, weil es fast so ist, als ob er wusste, dass er zu viele Tracks hinterlassen würde. Und das schreit auch für mich Prämeditation. Warum versuchst du forensisch, deinen Computer zu wecken? Das fühlt sich nicht sehr normal an. Ich weiß nicht, nicht konkret schuldig, aber sicherlich fragwürdig.
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Chapter 7: What conclusions can be drawn from the timeline of events?
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So by now, I think we're all pretty familiar with the movements the roommates had on the night of the 12th and the early morning hours of the 13th. We've gone over that information ad nauseum. I mean, the food truck, going out, being back home.
And if you're not familiar with that information for any reason, if you're not caught up, definitely check out some of my other videos where I've covered the entire case, the full timeline, all of that. But my point is that even though Dateline briefly went over where each of the roommates were that night, as well as when they got home, the main focus was on Brian.
And this is where things get pretty crazy. And I have to just clarify, this is all just a major running theory. But what I'm about to share is what the investigators and other experts believe to be exactly what Brian did that night. So in the early morning hours of November 13th at 2.56 a.m., Brian turns off his phone. Then we're shown never before seen footage from the neighbor's security camera.
And this footage caught Brian's car continuously going around the block, lurking, potentially even gaining up the courage to allegedly do what he was going to do starting at 3.36 a.m. And we had also heard about this in previous filings, right?
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