261: Idaho 4 Update: Proof Bryan Kohberger Had No Ties to The Four Victims?!

98.975 - 114.688 Annie Elise

Because there have been so many different hearings going on. We know that more information about the case itself is getting released, and we're learning more about it started with the 911 call, but then about the text message history, the Snapchat, the Amazon history. I mean, we constantly are learning things.

213.362 - 233.89 Annie Elise

I would call it, what, eight to 10 months, been more people coming out saying, no, no, no, he's innocent. He's not only being framed, he's being set up. There was a second person involved, which also in my last video, you know, we talked about that, where the defense brought up that there was a second person in question back then, or like a person of interest, I should say.

233.91 - 253.473 Annie Elise

And so it seems like now it's more divided than it ever really has been. A lot of people do believe that Brian is innocent. I even saw a comment in one of my last videos that they're dubbing themselves as pro-burgers because his last name is Coburger. But I'm curious where you sit. And I've kept it real with you from the beginning, okay?

254.253 - 277.411 Annie Elise

I have thought in my gut that this is the guy, that they got their guy, and there is just too much coincidence and inconsistencies and evidence that we have heard of to not be him, to just be casually explained away. But I also am like hearing some of the stuff like what we'll be going over today to where I'm like, you know, it's circumstantial at best.

277.951 - 298.148 Annie Elise

Whether or not this is the guy, do they have enough to convict him? And that's a really scary place to be. Not, I mean, scary for Brian, scary for the victim's family, scary for everybody. Because if not Brian or if not convicted, will these victims ever get justice? And I'm going to stop talking now. Let me just get into all this new information and break it down for you.

298.208 - 320.006 Annie Elise

And like I said, let me know as we go in the comments what you think. So this week's court session in the Brian Coburger case was not your typical hearing. It was like an all-day just legal face-off. I'm talking packed with jabs from the judge, heated back and forths between the attorneys, and really some important reveals about what might make it in front of a jury this summer in August.

449.082 - 463.309 Annie Elise

The nature of the crime is horrific. It is. So you're going to have horrific crime scene photos. That's just, unfortunately, the nature of the beast. but they argued that these images would do more shock than actual informing of the jury.

463.489 - 482.007 Annie Elise

Now, the judge didn't make a blanket ruling on that particular situation, but the judge did acknowledge that some of these photos are especially disturbing and said, you know what, because we do think it's important that some of the images are shown, but we understand some of them are very, very graphic, they're going to be evaluated individually during the trial.

482.768 - 505.054 Annie Elise

Now, my personal opinion is I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of those images still make their way into this trial because, again, the nature of the crime is horrific. There's no way to get around that. So it's not that they would be showing horrific autopsy photos or things like that. Maybe. But the crime scene photos itself, it's important to understand what went on in that King Road house, right?

505.074 - 524.293 Annie Elise

Yeah. Now here's something new that we heard a lot about in this hearing, and they were battling back and forth for quite some time. We finally have details on a previously unreleased traffic stop that involved Brian Koberger. Now this traffic stop happened two miles from the crime scene, and it started just before school started in August of 22 that year.

524.453 - 540.465 Annie Elise

So the prosecution wants to use this traffic stop video in the trial, which people are like, why? This was before the murders even took place. But the reason they want to use this is because it shows Brian in the area. At night. In the car. Just like they're alleging he was the night of the murders.

639.547 - 651.313 Annie Elise

This is him in the car. This is him at night. Almost so it's like you can visualize what they're alleging he did that night as well, right? So ultimately, the judge hasn't ruled on it, so stay tuned, but that was a big point of contention.

651.333 - 671.767 Annie Elise

And now I want to talk about the eyebrows, the bushy eyebrows, because as we know, one of the surviving roommate's description of the man that she saw in the house those early morning hours included the exact words, bushy eyebrows. which prosecutors are linking to that selfie that Brian Koberger took six hours after the murders.

672.087 - 691.755 Annie Elise

The one where he's in the bathroom taking it and they're trying to enter that selfie into evidence being like, look, here are the bushy eyebrows. Here's what she described. However, the defense is now questioning if Dylan is even reliable, citing she was really heavily drinking that day. She started with morning mimosas. She moved on to White Claws. She then moved on to this homemade Borg, which...

692.615 - 709.827 Annie Elise

I honestly am too old to know what that is. I had to research it, but it kind of sounds like it's like a rum jungle, like vodka punch, where you just like pour a bunch of things into it. And like, I don't know what you call it, dealer's choice, something like that. But basically citing like, look, she had been drinking all day, also into the night. Here's all the things that she had been drinking.

710.167 - 731.986 Annie Elise

Clearly, she doesn't know what she saw. She was wasted. She could have seen anything. Like, they're trying to just put her reliability into question here. They also say that she never even brought up the eyebrows on her own. that the police did. So really, they're questioning whether she actually even recalled those details herself ever, or if the investigators fed her that information.

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His defense team wants to ensure that it cannot be used against him if the trial reaches the sentencing phase. They say that they're worried that the prosecution is going to use...

833.948 - 863.404 Annie Elise

his social awkwardness as some kind of ammo, saying they're worried that the state could twist, you know, his social behaviors such as awkward eye contact or how he stands in rooms or something like that and twist that into something more menacing or even sinister, almost like, well, you see how he's acting, you see how he's behaving, you see how he's fidgeting or how he won't make eye contact when really that's a direct reflection of the autism is what they're saying, which I honestly think that they do have a point.

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in this.

864.405 - 891.945 Annie Elise

Nobody's social awkwardness or social behaviors that are out of their control should be used against them, not unless it directly ties to a crime or something that they did, which I also got to say, if the prosecution is planning to use somebody's autism against them, not as reasoning for something they've done or haven't done, but rather using their behaviors as a factor in it, that's kind of gross to me, and I don't know that the prosecution would do that, but I guess the defense is trying to get ahead of it.

892.165 - 906.995 Annie Elise

And when the defense brought this up, the prosecution did flat out say they have no intention of using autism as an aggravating factor. And frankly, when they said that, they also said they have, quote, this is a direct quote, much better arguments for the death penalty if it does get that far.

1094.229 - 1109.678 Annie Elise

Algorithms can always suggest or even auto-load items into somebody's shopping cart online, which, that's true. I mean, happens to me all the time. Every time I go on Amazon, it's like, here is what you looked at last, or here are suggested items for you. Sometimes on other platforms, it actually will add things to your cart too.

1109.998 - 1127.049 Annie Elise

So I get where that argument might hold a little bit of water, but the prosecution says, no, we're not guessing here. We have records. We have timestamps. We have linked accounts. We have devices. It's all there. A digital paper trail. It's not guesswork. And honestly, it's not just about what he bought.

1127.269 - 1142.86 Annie Elise

It's about when he bought it, how he bought it, and how everything else just starts to connect with it. Why are you buying something with a gift card that you bought with a debit card unless you're trying to hide it? Like, things like that. And the state plans to walk the jury through all of this, the entire digital trail they say they have.

1143.18 - 1164.516 Annie Elise

Now, during this hearing, we also circled back to Brian Koberger's claimed alibi. As you may remember, Brian's team says that he was just driving around, alone, stargazing, something that he allegedly did often to, quote, look at the stars. Totally normal, right? Said no one ever who has tried to prove an alibi in court. But I get it. You need some sort of alibi.

1164.556 - 1185.503 Annie Elise

So why not throw stargazing into the mix across state lines in the middle of the night? Sure. And that's just my personal opinion. So the alibi comes up again. And his team is now introducing a cell phone expert who's trying to back up that claim. The expert says that they can confirm some movement, but that the phone was off during the murders.