How did the first democracy die?
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A few times a week, I'd say. Last fall, this meme circulated where people, mostly women on TikTok, asked their husbands or boyfriends how often they thought about the Roman Empire.
It was a moment where once again we learned there are two kinds of people.
This time, those who think about Rome all the time, and those who do not.
But there was a third type of guy, never mentioned in this meme, and that guy was me. I don't think about the Romans much, but I do think about ancient Greece a fair amount of the time. Specifically, I think about ancient Greece as a coping mechanism. When I get deeply upset about our democracy, I think about theirs. Athens was the very first democracy in human history, one that faced some of the same problems we faced, some problems of their own, and then died in spectacular fashion. I know this might not be the escapism some people are looking for this week, but walk with me for a sec. Any book can be a self-help book. And for the past few years, mine has been What's Wrong with Democracy? From Athenian Practice to American Worship, which is a factual, academic look at the problems of Athenian democracy in the 5th century BC. I spoke to its writer this week. Okay, first things first, can you just introduce yourself?
Sure. My name's Lawrence Sammons, but everyone calls me Jay. And I teach Greek history and Greek and Latin at Boston University and have done so for over 30 years. I also work for the American College of Greece in a consulting role in Athens. And my interests have been democracy and imperialism and the historians who write about democracy and imperialism for pretty much my whole career.
One of the ancient historians who Jay thinks about most often is a Greek writer named Thucydides. Jay first encountered his work decades ago as a student.
When I got to graduate school, I still thought I was going to be a Roman historian, but it was really Thucydides that dragged me into Athenian history. I found him so interesting that I abandoned my Roman studies and focused on the Greeks. And what was it about Thucydides? What about the way that he wrote? He was so dark. I mean, Thucydides has an extremely dark view of human nature.
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