We have been having a lot of weird encounters during the trial of USA v. Sean Combs. Too many people have been persistently asking the same questions and now it’s starting to just feel weird. There are people outside the courthouse swinging wooden planks at reporters, spitting on news anchors, and threatening to take someone out with a sock filled with pool balls. These are all the strange encounters we have had during the Diddy trial. What is really happening here? Full show notes at rottenmangopodcast.com
Chapter 1: What unusual events have occurred during the Diddy trial?
I know our episodes have been later than we wanted them to be and there have just been a lot of things that have been happening at the court behind the scenes. The first 20 minutes of this video are going to have no relation to the actual trial and the actual happenings of the trial with all the testimonies of the witnesses
so the first 20 minutes are honestly just some behind the scenes information on things that we've been kind of working with. so if that is no interest to you, just skip ahead. i will say though, it has been a rough few weeks. this is our fourth time moving locations.
one of them was completely unrelated to the case, and the rest of the times that we've moved to different places to stay, it's just been getting weird. And we're taking all the necessary precautions to keep the entire team safe. And I feel like I haven't really spoken about any of the things that have been happening behind the scenes. So I just want to fill you guys in.
There has been so much happening inside the courthouse or right after the court or the entire team, like right before we go into the courthouse. And it's just things that we can't really put our finger on. And it just feels off and at the risk of sounding like we're overly paranoid. I'm just going to try and tell you and explain why I think that we've been on edge recently.
Before I get into the things that have been happening that are actually a little bit creepy, I'm just gonna paint the picture for you. This is not creepy, it's just pure chaos. Outside the courthouse, it is a literal zoo every single day. I see TikToks here and there of people capturing this chaotic tornado that's happening.
And it is wild how desensitized everybody is getting to just how incredibly messy everything is. A few days ago, there was a man who came to the courthouse with this giant two by four plank of wood. And he was in a rather menacing way, slamming it against the street poles. He swung it at a reporter. Thankfully, she did not get hit, but it was still terrifying nevertheless.
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Chapter 2: What chaotic scenes are reported outside the courthouse?
And this is actually the second time within the span of like a few business days that the police have been called on this specific person.
person he has been around the line for a while he has been consistently standing in the line to get into the courthouse and then in the morning he tries to sell his spot i will say that this man is very intense our only interactions with him personally is that he is very aggressive and he will aggressively scream nihao at us and expect us to say it back And so we do because we're terrified.
His friend is also very intense. There was one morning where I was going over transcripts before the courthouse opened. So I'm like sitting on the ledge of the sidewalk and I'm going over the transcripts. He's standing towering over me and he's just ask. He's like demanding to know what I thought about Cassie's testimony. I told him I'm busy. I've work to do.
I'm like going over the transcripts and he keeps insisting me in a pretty threatening way. He's like towering over me. Why can't I help you? You don't think I can help you? You don't think I'm capable of helping you? I'm telling you I can help you right now. And it just took so long to get him to finally walk away. He was definitely erratic, unpredictable.
It felt like he wanted me to answer his persistent questions about what I felt about Cassie's testimony so that he would have a reason to start freaking out. That was the feeling. There was another incident where a man was believed to be holding a pool ball inside of a sock. So he's like threatening to swing it around and hit people with it. We didn't see it. We were warned about it.
So we like stayed in the courthouse a little bit longer before exiting that day. And it's the same guy that allegedly we heard again that he spat at a reporter. He was screaming homophobic slurs at people in the line. And the NYPD, they will just take the people harassing the public and the press outside waiting to get into the courthouse. We'll lead them across the street and then send them off.
They literally just cross the street with them. We've seen this happen almost every other day. I mean, I think they can't really do anything unless someone demands to press charges or I don't know, actually, God forbid, gets injured. So that's great. There is heavy police presence there. The U.S.
Marshals are out there every single day, but there are just nonstop people unwarranted, unprompted, just spawning out of thin air, screaming at everybody. I honestly feel like some of these people are coming to the courthouse to get a fight out of their system. That's the feeling. That's the only way I can describe it.
People are trying to argue about pretty much everything outside of this courthouse. I am told that this is very New York, which we have spent some time in New York and had a place here for a while. And it feels like every interaction, like every bad interaction I've had in New York amplify it times 1000 and then add it all up. And then I have to relive that experience every single day.
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Chapter 3: How do the press and the public interact outside the trial?
There are at least five times I wrote in my notebook, why is Myron here? Like, I don't know why he's here. But what's interesting about him is he's actually quite meek in real life.
Not that I think he should carry himself as he does on his podcast in the courthouse, but he's rather like he has a very soft demeanor, softer than other content creators that I run into in the elevators, which is not what I expected of him. Like we were in the elevator with him once and everybody's shuffling out and we were waiting for him to leave. And he's just like, oh, yeah, please go ahead.
but like very softly. Nevertheless, that's just like painting the picture of the chaos. There have been a lot of incidents though that have us feeling just weird. I mean, we've been encountering a lot more people. In the first few weeks, we're running into a lot of people outside the courthouse and things are like, they feel a little more normal the first few weeks.
But as of recently, there's just been random whispers and speculations amongst the press pews that there might be people recording and listening to the press line. So in order for any of this to make sense, I got to give you an idea of how things are set up. So right outside the federal courthouse, there is this one gigantic line that is filled with press and public.
You got members of the press, you got members of the public all in one singular line. The only way that you can kind of differentiate is like maybe they have on their press badge at the time. Now, this line typically starts the day before. The line sometimes starts before we get out of court sometimes. So the line starts while we're inside the courthouse.
Clearly, nobody can be at two places at once. So a lot of the press members, they will hire line waiters. And just to give you
you an idea a lot of the press pews yes there's a few independent journalists in there a good number of them are all with legacy media and legacy media has a lot of money we're a small team and just to keep up we're having to spend about a thousand dollars a day to have line sitters
actually more to just make sure we get into that main courtroom to be able to give you all the details that we really want to provide for you guys. So there's this giant line outside, press in public, all in one line. And then right before the security line into the courthouse, the US Marshals will come out and divvy up the line. So they'll make a press line and they'll make a public line.
So it's in order. So if you're like the fifth in line, You might be the second member of the press, or you might be the third member of the public, and they'll just kind of sort you one by one, depending on the order. Now, I will say that a good chunk of the public line are content creators, so it's kind of like a mini press line.
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Chapter 4: What strange encounters did the team experience with supporters?
And then once you get inside the courtroom, the press pews are on the right side and the public pews are on the left side. Now this is just painting the picture, but recently there have been so many whisperings and just confusion because there have been people, different people each time that will lurk around this gigantic main line outside before it's separated.
And you'll see that in the beginning, I think the legacy media, they're a lot more intense about getting spots in the main courtroom. So a lot of good chunk, of the first half of the gigantic line or press.
There will be random people that will walk up and down this line, primarily focusing on the press members at the very front, and they'll act like they're just walking up and down for exercise, and they will be secretly recording everyone on their phones. Now, mind you, there are a lot of people live streaming outside. So it's not like they're live streaming.
It's like they're trying to be discreet, like they're recording, but they don't want the press members to know that they're recording. So it's becoming incredibly uncomfortable. And all the press members are trying to warn each other once they spot someone like this. And it feels like it's every other day that they spot someone secretly recording members of the press.
And it's confusing because, you know, a lot of the members of the press, these people are very impressive producers, reporters, journalists that have been in the industry for years. They work with legacy media. They're not the type of people that are just gonna say unhinged stuff in broad daylight in a public setting. or air out confidential information on the side of the street.
So it's not like you're recording the press members saying anything salacious or juicy or even worse, capturing on camera. It feels like they're recording to get a general vibe of the members of the press. Because right before we go in, we might have small, small talk about maybe yesterday's testimony or like what's to be expected when we walk in today. Who's testifying today?
Like there's little conversations like that where maybe you could see each members of the press. Maybe you'll see a little bit of their feelings about how it's going. Maybe you'll see like tiny bits of their opinions. Nothing salacious. Maybe it's more like, oh, I almost cried when she was testifying. Like those are the types of comments you hear. It's really not worth recording.
And I say that it's been weird because those same people that are trying to discreetly record, they will often approach members of the press asking questions about how they feel about the case thus far. And they'll try to do it in a very casual manner. But again, we're all warning each other that they're recording us. So it's just been, it's not particularly alarming, it's just weird.
It just makes everybody feel very watched. In any event, that has been happening. It's strange, but it's not the creepiest thing. I think this is where it starts getting very uncomfortable.
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Chapter 5: How is Sean Combs perceived by the press during the trial?
and that's why it's so hard to explain any of this in a way that doesn't make us seem super dramatic because we'll get similar questions asked by people who we feel are genuinely just supporters of the podcast or just intrigued because maybe they themselves are trying to start social media so the past two weeks we have had almost i want to say it's like more than a handful i think it's been like eight or nine times in the past like week not people that we see in the courtroom every single day
Completely new faces that will come up to us, tell us that they love our show Rotten Mango, and then they keep asking us where we're staying, which hotel we're staying at, which part of the city we're staying at. And of course, we give them very noncommittal answers because that's a very invasive question to ask.
And I will say, obviously, if it's someone that I've seen in the courtroom every single day and they're like a fellow content creator or not only that, they even ask, like, who's here? Yes. Oh, I'm going to get into that.
So like just to give you an idea, like clearly, if someone is a member of the press or if it's a fellow content creator or somebody that I see every single day and we have some sort of foundation and they ask me, where are you staying? It feels like, Oh, because we're all trying to get a gauge of all the hotels nearby, which one's a good one, which one has good amenities for after court.
But these are random people that are like, hey, by the way, I love your show. Nice to meet you. My name is blank. Where are you staying? It's like instant. It's instant. just nonstop questions about which hotel we're staying at. And then if we evade the question, it becomes what part of the city? Which area? How long does it take you to get here? Do you Uber or do you walk?
Who's all staying with you? Is it just you guys? Is it just you and your researcher here? Do you go home during the weekends if you're not from the city? Do you fly back home? Do you take the train? It's just...
Non-stop. What are some of these questions going to provide for this person? There's no need for anybody to ask these type of questions.
And the worst part is, it's pretty clear that we're so uncomfortable with these questions. Because we'll literally be like, yeah, haha. And then they'll just keep asking.
And they don't some of them don't seem like they've really watched anything from you.
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Chapter 6: What testimony did Capricorn Clark provide?
Maybe he's talking about the whole press as a whole. I don't know. Weird. Weird.
So to clarify, right? So Stephanie clearly feels like it was really uncomfortable eye contact along with mouthing, I know you. And even the phrase itself, I know you sounds really off. Like, what does that mean? You know me.
Yeah. Okay. So even the first time that he did it the previous Thursday, right? Like my researcher was a bit more firm than me. And she's like, no, he was literally looking. And I saw it like I'm watching from the side.
And also, just to clarify, I think it is normal for them to know a lot of the press.
Oh, yeah.
They're doing research every day, seeing what everyone's talking about. I think it's completely normal and we're expected of that. But the fact that he's mouthing that feels a little bit more intentional. Like, what does that mean? Yeah.
I think if they don't know every single person in the press pew, the attorneys are not doing their jobs right, especially if he's paying that much money. I think that they should probably know every single person in that courtroom, maybe not the public. But everybody else, yeah, I mean, you're having a lot of the same familiar faces over and over again.
And these are the people that are going outside and telling the world what is happening that's maybe not on the transcript. And so it makes sense that he would know every single member of the press, right? But it was just like, I think the intensity of the stare was a lot. It just is an intense moment.
And I think the first time it happened, my researcher was a bit more firm in the sense of like, no, he was saying, I know you. Because I thought, well, maybe he was saying, how are you to somebody?
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Chapter 7: What challenges did Capricorn face while working for Combs?
So Cap would tell Cassie that she could do better and Diddy didn't like that. So he would start telling Cass that Cap was the one leaking bad stories about her and that whenever Cass wasn't around, Cap would belittle her and eventually Capricorn quit. So that's what they're hypothesizing is why Capricorn is no longer in Diddy's circle. But now Capricorn's Instagram is private.
Her bio just reads, nothing to see here. Everything not saved will be lost. Tell the truth. Shame the devil. With a lot of people thinking that Sean Combs is the devil. Because even around the time of Cassie's lawsuit, there was a tweet that has since been removed and her ex has gone in private. But Capricorn Clark allegedly tweeted, don't take the path of the wicked.
Don't follow those who do evil. Stay away from that path. Don't even go near it. Turn around and go the other way. Another one, she adds, doors be unlocked. You got to be willing to walk away from the money. Full stop. 2011 was hell. Tragic kingdom. She also does another one that's more clearly aligned with Sean Combs. Black women end up being the sacrifice.
For the last 11 years of my life, I had to deal with everyone's nonsensical allegiance to the devil. They will skin you and wear you, baby girl, and then pretend that they never wanted your skin. Kim was the only person who didn't switch up. The only one. Dark times. I'm personally very triggered. I pray it's over. I never deserved this. Stop. Hashtag protect black woman IRL hashtag RIP Kim.
And it's a picture of her and Kim Porter.
Wow.
So clearly, she has very strong feelings. And she starts off the direct by giving some background. She says that she's always been in the music industry. She interned at Def Jam Records, which is a massive music label. Then she was with Death Row Records with Suge Knight, which is Bad Boy Records' constant nemesis. This is the origins of the Tupac and Biggie rivalry.
She also mentions that, quote, my mother died and then shortly thereafter, my father died. And this is like two seconds of her taking the stand. She's already about to cry and she sounds like she's crying already. And some of the defense attorneys look at each other like, what the fuck? I guess that they don't like the instant going into sympathetic territory.
I will say that Capricorn Clark is probably the most, okay, well, second, top three most captivating witnesses. I mean, she just talks in a way where I feel like you just know everything she's saying, she's probably oversharing. That's the feeling. You feel like she's gonna get very messy on the stand, but maybe it's good because it makes her feel very transparent.
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of the trial for the parties involved?
like the words she's saying are sad and you can like resonate with the sadness of like yes if i were in that situation i too would be panicked right you can resonate on that level but on a secondary level she's incredibly likable in a sense of like it's not just overwhelming sadness it's like you almost like want to give her a hug because it's like oh my gosh like What is happening right now?
Like, it just feels very relatable. I don't know how to put it in a way that doesn't sound like I'm minimizing her testimony because I'm not at all. It's just in the sense of like, You feel like she's your friend. The way that she communicates feels like she's a friend. And now your friend is telling you some of the worst stuff that's ever happened to her. So you almost resonate on a deeper level.
She feels like she's just telling you like exactly what's happened and how it made her feel. There's no intentional like, let me tell you in a sophisticated manner. Let me tell you in a way where I think you'll understand. She's just like saying as she's feeling it is what it's perceived as. When he told you to calm down, how had you been reacting in that moment? I couldn't calm down.
I wasn't doing a good job at calming down. So she's very passionate. She has a way of sounding incredibly honest. And she sounds just honestly relatable. I hate that word, but I don't know how else to describe it. The whole time she's sniffling, wiping her tears. Mind you, she keeps pushing those giant glasses up. She's lifting them to wipe her tears.
Meanwhile, Combs is just stoically looking ahead with very little movement. The jurors are rapidly taking notes. And here's the interesting thing to note. All the jurors' notes are naturally kept in the courthouse. They're collected every single day and given back at the start of each court day. But at the very end, after the verdict, notes are permanently destroyed.
So they're writing in their notes. Capricorn is telling them as they're taking their notes that she was there for a full work day that Monday. They're intermittently all day taking the lie detector test. We weren't allowed to leave. The door was locked from the outside. She did not attempt to leave the building because she says, I was there to prove my innocence.
At the end of the day, Uncle Polly takes her home and he tells her that they're going to do this all over again the next morning. And they do for the next five days. She said she's doing a nine to five getting a lie detector test all week long. Why did you continue to go with Mr. Offord, Uncle Polly to the building? I wanted to prove my innocence. I didn't like the threats.
I felt like it was the only way to prove that I had nothing to do with it. I was in a different headspace. I was just trying to survive it. She says that she never tries to reach out to law enforcement for her five-day lie detector marathon because she worked under an NDA. She didn't even think about calling the cops.
And after those five days, Uncle Pauly just tells her, yeah, you're going to go home. Next Monday, she just goes back to work. Sean Combs acts like nothing ever happened. Nobody ever did find the jewelry. It didn't make sense for Capricorn to quit because she's saying, I mean, I felt like if I had left, it would have been written off as I had stolen it anyway.
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