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Teacher Made 11-Yr-Old Be A Lookout While SAing His Friend In Class- Husband Defends Her

Wed, 29 Jan 2025

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There’s been a crime in the workplace. Tim, the man in charge, is tasked with figuring out what exactly happened. He calls in the informants and sits them down at his desk. “What did you hear?” They lean forward - “I heard that they meet after hours in her car and they’re having a very inappropriate relationship. She might even be pregnant.” Tim takes notes. He interviews each of the people that could know exactly what happened… before concluding. These are all just workplace rumors. There is nothing more he should do about it. There’s just no way that Teacher Of The Year - Brittany Zamora is SAing her 13 year old student in a classroom full of kids. There’s no way. What would her poor husband say about this? A lot. He has a lot to say. All words of support for his wife.   Full show notes at rottenmangopodcast.com 

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Chapter 1: What crime happened in the workplace?

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There has been a crime in the workplace. And Tim Dickey, the man in charge, has to figure out what the hell is going on. He's got to investigate. He's sitting down with everybody. Anybody that's heard or potentially saw anything, he's sitting across from them. Because all of these people could be witnesses one day. And they all tell him the same thing.

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Chapter 2: What rumors surround the teacher-student relationship?

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Well, everyone talks about them having an inappropriate relationship. Okay, I see. I mean, have you seen anything with your own eyes or is it just a rumor that you're hearing from everyone, your peers? Well, I've heard a lot from a lot of others that they're dating. It's pretty clear though that she has the power and she favors him. He barely puts in any work and he gets all the rewards.

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Honestly, it's a pretty gross, massive power imbalance to say the least. Another person tells Tim Dickey along the lines of, I've heard that they met up after hours, that they have these secret meetings in the night in her car. It's all very hush hush. But the worst part is I've heard the rumor that she's actually pregnant. Others say that's not even the worst part.

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It actually does indeed get worse. They say that they've heard rumors that sometimes he would stand behind her desk and she would pretend to go under her desk to look for something. Oops, I dropped my pencil. Crawl down there and in front of everybody else in the room, she would...

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quote touches stuff not to mention some of the notes found in her desk that he allegedly wrote one just reads you're sexy another reads i want you let's smash six feet long, whatever that means. The witnesses' statements are pretty consistent, but Tim Dickey thinks, well, what if, what if they're too consistent? It's a little too convenient, right?

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He thinks all the stories kind of sound similar, like they're all just rumors that people have been circulating from desk to desk, but has anybody actually seen anything? It's time to bring in the suspect. They bring in 27-year-old Brittany Zamora. She walks into Tim Dickey's office. She's sitting at the other end of his desk, and there's already tears just streaming down her face.

Chapter 3: How did the investigation unfold?

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It does not appear that she's having a good time. Listen, Tim, please. There are really only two things in this world that I care about, and it's my husband and my career. That's it. Tim Dickey is smiling because that makes sense. She was like one of the first people he hired since he got the job running this place. And she did win the 2016 County Teacher of the Year Award.

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There's no way she's essaying and raping her 13-year-old student in a class full of kids, right? There's no way she has an 11-year-old boy standing lookout while she essays his best friend in her classroom. Even if Tim Dickey doesn't believe it, the least he can do is alert the 13-year-old student's parents, correct?

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Instead, Tim Dickey sits all the other students down that have reported the inappropriate behavior. He says, Thank you all for coming to me with what you've been hearing in the hallways. But do you know how dangerous rumors can be? You can ruin someone's career with these types of rumors.

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Chapter 4: What did the husband say about the allegations?

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We would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for Rotten Mango to support the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, also known as NECMEC. They focus on finding missing children, reducing child sexual exploitation, and the prevention of child victimization. This episode's partnerships have also made it possible to support Rotten Mango's growing team.

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And we'd also like to thank you guys for your continued support. As always, full show notes are available at ronmangopodcast.com. Disclaimers, today's case has mentions of grooming and CSA. Please watch with caution. The names of the minors have also been, of course, protected and changed. So with that being said, these are all pseudonyms except for the perpetrators and the adults.

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Let's get started. Do you know what the pre-divorce stage is? It's when you see two people in a relationship, in a marriage, and you know that they're going to get divorced. They just haven't filed divorce yet. They might not even know that they're going to get divorced, but you just feel it in your bones. They are in a stage of pre-divorce.

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My biggest thing is, I mean, I guess it's very difficult to say if you can see when couples are going to get divorced. Everybody's different. But when they are incredibly mean to each other in front of people, I'm like, I feel like a pre-divorce is happening. One netizen says, oh, my pre-divorce signal is even stronger. He's older now. He's seen all these couples come and go.

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And he says, when I see a divorce coming, and this is not 100% of the time, obviously there's exceptions, don't get upset people. But he says, when the couple decide, Out of nowhere, it's not like a big anniversary. It's not their 50th anniversary, 40th, 20th, 25th. Out of nowhere, the couple decide randomly to have an over the top vow renewal. Massive ceremony, celebration.

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It feels like they distract themselves by planning the event. And then after the last guest leaves, party is over. They go back to reality. The marriage is shitty. Divorce incoming in like six months.

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What? Yeah.

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And he's saying, obviously there's exceptions of people who have anniversaries or have been planning it for a long time, or they had a life altering moment where someone was diagnosed with something and then recovered. Those are different. He's saying like so random.

Chapter 5: How did the parents discover the inappropriate relationship?

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So if these keywords ever get searched on the internet or is sent via message, whether it's Facebook Messenger, Instagram direct messages, or text messages, it'll alert the parent. And it'll show them what platform and it'll show them the message.

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So you can flag where it's like baby or, you know, other maybe drugs, right? John and his wife, they get Adam, their son, a new phone with this new app installed on their sentry. And they give it to him because, I mean, honestly, they don't feel right about it. They were going back and forth. Do we install the app? Do we not install the app? We kind of feel bad about it, especially because he's 13.

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We're trying to give him space to... still be a child, but make mistakes and learn and grow and have privacy. But Adam has been acting so weird recently. He doesn't even want to sleep with the door open. They have this whole family rule. Everybody sleeps with their door open. It doesn't have to be wide open. It's just like a crook. You just don't lock your door at night. But he's so upset by this.

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He's withdrawn during dinner time. He doesn't even want to talk to them. It's so sudden that they're like, something is going on. And if we don't figure out what, we can't help him. The stepmom has the parent version installed on her phone and she put all the keywords in. And the day after installing the app, she's just getting ding, ding, ding, ding. Her phone is blowing up.

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She said, so yesterday I got the alert. I keep getting alerts back to back to back to back back because the word baby kept getting used. The messages in question read, I guess kind of like any other 13 year old relationship flirting. I imagine, I don't particularly recall how I flirted when I was 13, but the messages read, W-Y-D, what you doing? On the bus texting you.

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So Adam is texting, on the bus texting you. Oh my God, you're so cute, baby. I wish you could have stayed after with me. I know, I wish I could, baby. Heart emoji, heart emoji. The person responds, I wish I could hang out with you whenever we wanted. Adam responds, same. I think about it so much. I think about it so much, too. Aw, baby, I know what you mean. You're all I think about.

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It's kind of giving, like two 13-year-olds flirting. Another thread of messages read, from Adam, you're mine. Yes, baby, yes. Which again, I don't necessarily recall how I was flirting as a 13 year old, and I'm sure per parent it's different how one feels about their kids sending these types of messages.

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I don't know, perhaps a child psychologist would know better if this is normal development to talk like this or not. But so far, it's not the most alarming thing in the world. But there's more messages that start to escalate and get increasingly stranger. A message from Adam reads, I need more redacted from you, heart.

Chapter 6: What evidence was revealed during the investigation?

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Maybe it's just someone with the same name. Or like, you know how kids are. Maybe they'll make an account for their teacher and just mess around.

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So she first only saw that he's flirting with someone. Yes. And she thought maybe this is just like a girlfriend.

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And when she saw that handle, that's when she realized, oh my gosh.

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She's like, what the hell is going on?

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Okay.

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Then she goes on Instagram and she checks that handle because she's like, again, it could just be an account. You can technically name your handle anything on Instagram. There's no law. She goes and it's the same spelling, same everything with the real account of Mrs. Zamora. And she knows this because she's messaged Mrs. Zamora too about homework before on Instagram.

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And the stepmom says, but what even more confirmed it was her first name was used in the conversation. So either she wrote it or he wrote it and they put, So the two were flirting and they wrote, Brittany, insert Adam's last name. Other messages read, what are you doing? Thinking about your sexy self, heart emoji, heart emoji. And then Mrs. Zamora responds, oh baby, I wish you were here with me.

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And she proceeds to send a video and I don't know why Diddy is everywhere, but he's here too. She is pointing at her car stereo with the caption, when the radio plays that good shit and it's Diddy's song, I need a girl. And the lyrics are, I've had a lot of women in my lifetime, but see, it's not a lot of women that got the right mind. I've done a lot of pretty chicks with all the right features.

Chapter 7: What were the consequences of the teacher's actions?

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And he continues. Talk. You got 30 seconds. Don't waste my time. You had the nuts to call me and now you don't want to talk? Look, man, this whole situation is crazy. And I've never heard of anything like this in my entire life. And I'm sure as a parent, you've got to be livid, pissed, downright hurt. You trust the system. And honestly, this sucks as a husband.

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As a husband, I am distraught, let down. I mean, I understand. And I'm sure as a husband, you know what this would do to you. Well, dude, the thing is, I don't get with a fucking monster. I know, I know. God, it's the worst for me. I'm pretty much throwing up. She confided in me just now and told me the truth. And man, I am shaking. Well, explain to me what she told you.

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Which, side note, when he says, I am shaking... I don't feel like he's shaking. I understand that everybody processes shock differently, but I feel like this is my reaction to an Uber order getting canceled. It doesn't sound shaken. And the dad continues, I want to know. You said that she confided in you. Let me know what she told you so I can see if she told you everything.

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Grab some nuts and talk to me like a man. What the fuck did she tell you she did to a 13-year-old boy? Listen, to be honest, it's just more of the messaging. Oh, so she didn't tell you everything then. I mean, I'm hearing it from you, sir. I'm hearing it from you. Well, you're not going to hear another fucking thing from me.

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So what I'm asking you is, if you could possibly just, Brittany has been a great teacher for a long time, five years. She's done so much for so many students and raised so many people's lives from the ghetto. That's literally what he says. Like, don't even get me started on that. She's been to, you know, homes to talk to students. Again, not the one you think it is. Done a tutoring program.

Chapter 8: How did the community react to the allegations?

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She's done so, so much. And she's made a huge mistake. The biggest mistake anybody could ever make in this whole entire world. She got invested in a very, very bright, smart, and great student.

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he's trying to spin this like britney got invested in your child because he's so great which i'm sure he is but what yeah what kind of advertising manipulation scheming honestly and a great person which probably comes from y'all and i get you i get it man he's like marketing her what is happening right now And you probably don't want to hear my voice. And I wouldn't want to hear my voice either.

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Oh, I'd like to hear your voice when I get my fucking hands around your throat. Your wife decided to be a monster and prey on a child. She scarred my son mentally. Do you understand what a 13-year-old boy did? Do you get all of that? Listen to me. I am not going to settle outside of court. There's not enough fucking money you could possibly ever ask and offer me to settle this. I get it, man.

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Get that through your head. And with that, he hangs up the phone. He calls the police, Adam's parents do, and a whole investigation begins and it just gets messier. There are two main interviews that are done, one with the victim, Adam, and then another hour-long interview with the victim's best friend.

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Now, the interview with Adam, you don't see him because obviously his identity is protected, but he just sounds so young. There is like a certain cadence that children have. Obviously, some people don't shed it for a while. There's nothing wrong with it. But the way he answers questions is incredibly childlike.

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His voice, his way of responding to, for example, the interviewer will ask him, tell me about a few things you like to do. He responds, I like to play football, write and draw. The authorities are just trying to understand, okay, how does something like this even happen? Like she's had to have a certain level of grooming already established in order to send these types of messages to the victim.

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And they're wondering, how did you guys even start messaging? There's this app called Classcraft. Classcraft is supposed to foster a positive school climate and educational outcomes. It's a message board. You can message your teachers and ask them one-on-one about questions of homework under the presumption that this is a well-monitored communication.

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forum and likely nobody uses the chat function to do anything but ask questions about school or class times because let's be so real what teacher wants to talk to their kids outside of school hours and what student wants to talk to their teacher outside of school hours unless there's a problem with school work but britney tells her class one day i'm gonna be out of school tomorrow you guys are gonna have a substitute teacher and i'm just gonna be really bored so if anybody else is bored you guys should message me on class craft hmm

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It's not about an assignment. It's not about their project. It's just, I'm bored. Adam messages his teacher that day. Hi, Mrs. Zamora. And she texts back, hi. She starts asking him these weird questions. Would it be weird if I sent you a winky face? Adam said that he was confused and he just responded, no, it's just a winky face, LOL. And Brittany responds, I'm bored. LOL, I am too. Come over.

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