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Mom Confesses To Watching Daughter Get Dismembered & Got Turned On By It - Now Claims False Confession

Tue, 4 Mar 2025

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Police find 10 year old Victoria’s body completely dismembered. Her arms, legs, and organs were severed off and the rest of her body was lit on fire. When they bring in Victoria’s mother, Michelle, the pieces of the puzzle start coming together. Michelle states that her boyfriend, Fabian, had been sexually assaulting Victoria. Michelle states that she liked to watch. But that night in particular it got a bit too wild. Fabian accidentally chokes and kills Victoria during the assault. Michelle states she sat there and watched Fabian and his cousin dismember Victoria. Then she went to the kitchen to prepare dinner and soon after had sex with Fabian. This thing is normal for her. She had been going online to find predators to come assault her kid so this is what she wanted. That’s what Michelle tells the authorities but two years later - she takes it all back. She says it was a false confession. But that doesn’t explain - what happened to Victoria?Is there any truth at all to this false confession? And who is the unknown male DNA they found on Victoria?   Full show notes at rottenmangopodcast.com

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Chapter 1: What led to the false confession in Victoria's murder case?

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Some people say those two things are almost similar. They work in different ways for different purposes, obviously. But hypnotism, being open to suggestion, and false confessions leading someone to believe that something has happened that has not happened are kind of in the same vein. confess to something that you've never done? A false confession?

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Usually these people have poor memory, high levels of anxiety, low self-esteem, low assertiveness, conflict avoidance, and the eagerness to please people. People with these traits combined They are more easily influenced by authority figures. They're more vulnerable to interrogation pressure. Now you add in the situational factors. They've been left in this interrogation room for many two hours.

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Too many two hours. Sleep deprivation, fatigue, drug, alcohol withdrawal, extreme stress. They could easily give a false confession. They could be nudged, pushed, led. It's a very real thing that will mess up so many trials because someone is victimized. Obviously, they need to get justice.

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But if someone claims that they falsely confessed or they actually did falsely confess, that makes it trickier to get justice. And that is exactly what Michelle Martins is saying happened to her. She's like, that was a false confession. She claims that she did not mean a single thing that she said. She takes it all back.

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Yeah, she said that her boyfriend, Fabian, was essaying her 10-year-old daughter, Victoria. So Michelle's 10-year-old daughter is Victoria and Michelle's boyfriend is Fabian. She's saying this adult man was essaying my 10-year-old daughter. She says she let it happen because... She did derive a sick and twisted pleasure of viewing the heinous acts. She got off on observing, okay?

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But that specific night, things were a little bit different. Michelle says her boyfriend Fabian was on top of Victoria as saying her. And Fabian's female cousin was also present in the room. And she was joining in on the assault.

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The cousin is.

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Yeah, the boyfriend's cousin. So Fabian is the boyfriend.

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Fabian's the boyfriend. And how old is the boyfriend and the cousin?

Chapter 2: Did Michelle really witness her daughter being dismembered?

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She says, you guys need to go catch the real killer. Side note, the apartment was in shambles and it's very interesting. So she's claiming that a man walks in, essays and kills Victoria. But when you go in, everything is just hectic. There's blood everywhere. There's blood seeping into the carpet. There's evidence that someone tried to clean up the blood.

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Inside the bathroom, they find Victoria, her torso, her head, they're all connected. Her arms have been severed. They were found in a separate plastic bag. Her liver and her heart were taken out, also found in a separate plastic bag. Her left leg was almost completely severed off. The rest of her body that's in the bathtub was wrapped in a blanket and lit on fire.

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Every single smoke detector in the house was also conveniently taken down. So Jessica's story, it doesn't really add up. Also, what are all these wounds? Sure, Jessica's fractured ankle makes sense. She jumped off the balcony. But why are Michelle and Fabian wounded? They go into Fabian's interrogation room. He says, I did nothing.

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I didn't even know that Victoria was lit on fire in the apartment. He claims all he knew was he went to sleep, woke up, and Jessica, his cousin, is freaking attacking him. He said this was a completely normal night. They came home. They made tacos for dinner. Well, Michelle made tacos. Everybody else ate the tacos, minus Victoria. They thought she was sleeping. That's what he claims.

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And then eventually, Michelle and Fabian, the couple, they go into the bedroom and they fall asleep. Around 140 a.m., they wake up to a pair of eyeballs staring at them, just staring into the depths of their soul. Do you believe in Jesus? He's like, Jessica, what are you doing? Why are you talking about Jesus at 140 in the morning? You don't even go to church. You just got out of prison.

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Jessica's standing, I have your phones, by the way. She's holding her hands behind her back, but it looks like she's got more than just their phones. I said, do you believe in Jesus? Michelle wakes up and she says, yeah, I do, which I don't know why you're responding.

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Jessica smiles and says, okay, then you first, bitch, and slams a metal iron over her head, then goes to Fabian and starts slamming the metal pipe, if you will, down on his head. And Fabian's like, I don't know. I just ran out of the apartment because my cousin is trying to murder me. And then you guys showed up. Then you're telling me that Victoria's dead, dismembered in the apartment.

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I didn't know that.

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Wait, this happened at 1.40 a.m.? Yeah. Wait, so the police rushed there at 1.40 a.m.?

Chapter 3: Who were the suspects in Victoria's murder?

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Did Michelle call the police?

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Fabian went to a neighbor who called the police. Michelle also escaped and went to a different neighbor to call the police.

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What? Okay...

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Fabian denies knowing anything that has been happening to Victoria. He said he came home and Jessica was like, Victoria went to sleep because she had a rough day and I was babysitting all day. And he also says, by the way, I would never do anything to Victoria. He says, I love her and she loves me. Now, to be clear, Victoria knew Fabian for approximately 24 minutes. I mean, maybe a few months.

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That's being a little dramatic. And most of the time that she knew him, he was likely high out of his mind on meth. I think even saying... that she liked him would be a tad bit too generous. But to say that she loved him, I mean, it's kind of unclear what deluded planet Fabian lives on. Maybe the same one as Stefan Stearns from the Maddie Soto case.

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But Fabian continues, because how do you know Victoria loved you after living with her mother for, I don't know, two business days? He says, she loved me, you know? She would always, you know what I mean? She would always be like, hey, Fabian. And we'd always smile. But to make matters more alarming, he continues, that's how I am with kids, you know? Victoria's real active.

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She's real cool, you know what I mean? She's all grown up, you know, for her age, you know? No, we don't know. And that's very alarming. She's 10. How can she be all grown up? We don't know. But he further continues that he absolutely was not involved. He says again, she loved me. I loved her. I showed up at the apartment after running errands with Michelle. We ate tacos.

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I went to sleep and then I got attacked. That's pretty much it. Eventually, the police cracked down and they said they're... There's no way that's what happened because you at least you're telling me someone right there. And this is not like the most soundproof apartment building. You're hearing things. You can hear your neighbor from the next unit over.

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Somebody is severing the limbs off of another person and you don't hear anything. You don't hear a ruckus, nothing. Someone's going around getting a ladder, standing up on chairs, taking off the smoke detectors. You don't hear a beep, a single sound. He says, you know what? I did see some dismembering. He says, I seen Jessica cut her up. But Jessica was threatening me.

Chapter 4: What are Michelle's conflicting statements about the crime?

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fabian and his mom also just like jessica and her mom they blame the other cousins fabian's mom says about jessica it's awful that you can't trust everybody but you can't son you can't he agrees you can't i know you know especially if that someone is from your family you know what i mean you would think that you could you know what i mean that is wild they're all related yeah and their moms all behave in this way and the moms are probably what siblings

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They're either like in, it could be, you know, the dad. But still, they're all related. Fabian tells his mom that regardless, when he gets out, he's going to take her to the salon so that she could get a massage. And he even tells his girlfriend, soon I'll be home, guys. Soon. I love you guys. So why the hell do both of them think that they're going to be home anytime soon? June 29th, 2018.

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This is two years after Victoria's murder. The new DA, Raul Torres, he takes office and he holds a press conference. So by this point, since 2016, this was one of the more high profile cases in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

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Everyone and their entire genetic lineage at this point believed that Fabian and Jessica had essayed Victoria while Michelle was watching, then dismembered her and then lit her on fire. But the DA says the authorities fumbled the ball. They say, first, we found no meth in Victoria's system. Part of the story was that they force-fed Victoria meth to calm her down so that they could essay her.

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There was no meth.

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So from 2016... They believe the truth or what happened was Michelle's interrogation. Right. But why did she the cousins start hitting them in the middle of the night if that happened?

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She claims Michelle is lying. It was a man that did this. An unknown man that did this. That that that that essayed and killed Victoria. And then the dismembering. Yeah. It seems like Jessica and Fabian did that.

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Okay, but why is Jessica attacking them in the middle of the night?

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Because she felt like her cousin was not going to believe the other man's story and just blame it all on Jessica. Because she was technically the only one home with Victoria.

Chapter 5: How did the investigation uncover inconsistencies in the confessions?

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Fabian, she met on plentyoffish.com, a dating website, moved him in after a month of talking to him online with her two kids. Eight-year-old Matthew was not in the house. He was at his dad's house when all this happened, thankfully. But... She's a very bad mom. At one point, Victoria was sexually assaulted. She does have HPV. She does seem like she had gone through a lot of trauma.

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However, there's no proof that she was online trying to look for men to assault her kids. In fact, every time someone assaulted her kids, she would call the police.

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She will call the police.

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That's where a lot of conspiracies happen. So her ex-boyfriend had tried to kiss Victoria and tried to touch her private parts. She kicked him out of the house and called the police. The police came and told her straight up he tried to kiss her is not a crime because he's just trying. Like attempting to kiss a child is not a crime. And the police did nothing.

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So now a lot of people believe that the police are almost covering up for themselves because they think that if this goes into discovery and the attorney, Michelle's defense attorney, comes out and is like, look at everything Michelle did and then look at this interrogation. They're leading her to all this. They could be in a lot of big trouble.

Chapter 6: What was the role of drugs in the abuse of Victoria?

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I'm really...

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So they're getting ahead of it and saying, this was a false confession. Those two officers are crazy for that. But the system is not broken. Don't look at the system. These two officers are just the bad ones. They led her to a false confession. Don't look at us. Because prior to this, in the past year, she had called CPS like six times to report.

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We don't know the exact reports because those are all closed investigations. And she didn't go through a trial where that was put into evidence. However, it just seems like she was calling CPS. She does keep putting her children in dangerous situations, but she also then will call CPS and the police when something happens. So it's very confusing.

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And I do think that if it had been anyone not Michelle, like look at Fabian and Jessica, they don't succumb to the interrogation tactics. I didn't see it as like so alarming, but that's also what's so insidious about false confessions.

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Most people, when they look at it, they're like, well, I would never say anything, but it takes a very specific person in a very specific environment for them to falsely confess to something. It was pretty insidious. Like if there are so many people who only saw the interrogation tape, did not do any research into the case, they don't think that that was a false confession.

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They just think like she's the world's worst mom. And she might as well be. She could be. I'm not debating that. I think she's, honestly, I think she could stand to be in jail for the rest of her life. I think that would be great because she still let this happen to her daughter. Mm-hmm. I think that makes her despicable. I think she's bringing men around. She's doing meth.

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She's exposing her children to this. She's putting her own frivolous, shitty dating life above her own kids. And I think that's really gross and vile. And I think that she could be in jail for a very long time. But I do think that the police were asking very leading questions.

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So what does that mean then? Does that mean we will never find out what happened? Because what a, you know.

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Mm-hmm.

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