Rotten Mango
#406: 16-Yr-Old Murders 98-Yr-Old Woman To SA Her Corpse For 2 Hours While Recording
Thu, 12 Dec 2024
“To Catch A Predator” steps:Hire an adult decoy to lurk on websites advertising themselves as 13 year olds looking for a middle aged companion.Invite the adult predator to a house that has been wired for audio and video recording.Have the host of the famous TV show pop out to ask the predator questions and arrest them on the way out.That is the premise to the show “To Catch A Predator” that has now been cancelled for its moral dilemmas. But now influencers are recreating the show themselves on their platforms. Luring in predators, confronting them, and then calling the police. That’s what 17 year old Gavon tells the cops was his plan… He met up with a middle aged man on Grindr for the purpose of robbing him because he deserves it. Why else would he talk to a minor?But for the police to believe his side of the story they have to go through his phone… and that’s where they find a folder titled - “Dark.” The password? “Murder.” Suddenly a simple robbery case turns into a murder investigation because in it… are videos and photos of 17 year old Gavon Ramsay killing and SAing a 98 year old woman in her own home. Gavon Ramsay is the predator. Full Source Notes: rottenmangopodcast.com
Chapter 1: What is the premise of 'To Catch A Predator'?
Yeah, I feel like we talked about it briefly.
Yes. So this show was around for a few years back in the early 2000s. And the fact that it's still relevant in pop culture is fascinating. But it was a show where a host, Chris Hansen, he would have all of these adult decoys. They're adults, but they pose as not adults on the Internet. They pose as 13 year olds. They start messaging strangers. They start messaging 50 year old men on the Internet.
They say, hey, come meet me at this house. This safe house is then wired up for audio and video. Everything is recorded. They step into the house. They sit down in the kitchen thinking that they're going to engage in illegal activities. But instead, Chris Hansen pops out and is like, hi, I'd like to ask you a few questions.
That is crazy.
Then when they walk out the front door, the police come in. They're waiting outside. They arrest the people. Yeah. I mean, dozens of threads have popped up over the years on Reddit, and it's a debate on whether that show is morally corrupt or not. So one would read, change my view. To Catch a Predator is a morally corrupt show.
Many of these people's arguments include, let me be clear, I don't think that the people on the show should go unpunished. I think that they should. But also, the show just teaches predators to be more cautious with their crimes, which would put actual victims at risk, not the decoys.
Many activists have questioned whether or not the show creates a harmful narrative because most predators in real life are not strangers you meet on the internet. They're gonna be people that the children trust. They also argue that the show is almost baiting the predators to commit a crime. I mean, they're lying, misdirecting, coercing the predators into falling for this trap.
Another small point of contention being that the family members of the predators, which obviously this would happen even if the predator is just charged in the court system, but now they get blasted on TV. Everybody knows what happened. The family members who likely did nothing wrong, they become these massive victims themselves. But other netizens argue... Change my view.
To catch a predator is not morally wrong. There should be more shows like it. The main argument being, the people on the show turn up to that house with the intention of R-wording a child. All the show does is show them arrive, give an interview, and then being arrested. If those three events happened, why can't they be broadcasted? We can video record anyone on the public street.
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Chapter 2: How does the internet influence young people's decisions?
I have no sympathy whatsoever. They point to netizen experiences online of knowing someone who ended up on the show. One comment reads, my friend dated someone who ended up just vanishing, disappearing. And then we eventually found out that he had been arrested for trying to sleep with an underage girl and having ropes and guns in his trunk.
It wasn't until a few weeks later that we learned he was on the show and it just kept unraveling. He had come to get drinks for one of my birthdays. And to be honest, he seemed completely normal. There was nothing that stood out to me as creepy or off. And my friend was a wreck afterwards, though. She's a smart girl, too. And she didn't expect anything like that. I feel so bad for her.
She was blindsided. but others point to other netizens' stories that read, I was roommates with a person on the show for a bit. His name was Dave. Basically, he went to California visiting a friend and the friend tells him, hey, I gotta make a detour to drop in on this girl that I've been chatting with online. He never mentions her age. And also, it's not like he could say no.
Dave is already in the friend's car and the friend is driving. So immediately, they get to the house. He regrets his decision when out comes Chris Hansen. And they only interview the friend. Since Dave just got to California, he has no idea who this person is. He never messaged the decoy. But it really sucked, though, because the episodes are still available online. They don't blur his face.
And actually, the whole episode that he's in has his face on the thumbnail.
What?
Yeah.
Wow.
There are debates about whether the show is technically entrapment. Now, side note, entrapment typically involves law enforcement coercing you to commit a crime. But I guess in this case, since NBC is working with law enforcement, it could count. That's a huge point of contention. As well as what if one of these people are innocent in some way?
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