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Renewing Your Mind

The Role of Man and Woman

Sat, 22 Feb 2025

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Perhaps now more than ever, people misunderstand the relationship between men and women in marriage. Today, R.C. Sproul looks to the Bible to explain the roles that God has ordained for husbands and wives. Request R.C. Sproul’s teaching series The Intimate Marriage on DVD, plus lifetime digital access to the messages and study guide, with your donation of any amount: https://gift.renewingyourmind.org/3879/donate   Meet Today’s Teacher:   R.C. Sproul (1939–2017) was known for his ability to winsomely and clearly communicate deep, practical truths from God’s Word. He was founder of Ligonier Ministries, first minister of preaching and teaching at Saint Andrew’s Chapel, first president of Reformation Bible College, and executive editor of Tabletalk magazine.   Meet the Host:   Nathan W. Bingham is vice president of ministry engagement for Ligonier Ministries, executive producer and host of Renewing Your Mind, host of the Ask Ligonier podcast, and a graduate of Presbyterian Theological College in Melbourne, Australia. Nathan joined Ligonier in 2012 and lives in Central Florida with his wife and four children. Renewing Your Mind is a donor-supported outreach of Ligonier Ministries. Explore all of our podcasts: https://www.ligonier.org/podcasts

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Chapter 1: What is the biblical role of a husband in marriage?

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What God says to me as a husband and to you as a husband is you are responsible to love your wives like Jesus loved the church. The same Jesus who is responsible to manage the universe promises and keeps the promise to hear every prayer that comes to him from his bride. He listens to his bride. He cares about his bride.

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So much does he care about his bride that he lays down his life for his bride.

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Chapter 2: Why is marriage under attack in modern society?

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When the topic of marriage comes up, one area that can be controversial is the discussion of the biblical roles of men and women, the role of the husband, the role of the wife. And that's the topic R.C. Sproul will tackle on this Saturday edition of Renewing Your Mind. Marriage is under attack, and if we're to defend and promote marriage, we need to ensure that our views align with Scripture.

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63.653 - 85.244 Nathan W. Bingham

And that's why we're featuring this series, The Intimate Marriage, on our Saturday episodes. We trust that what you've heard so far from this series, under God's blessing, has been a help to you, especially if you're married. I do encourage you to request the entire series so that you can go deeper in your study and so you can use the discussion questions in the study guide.

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When you make a donation of any amount in support of Renewing Your Mind, before midnight tonight, we'll send you the DVD and unlock digital access in the free Ligonier app. Simply visit renewingyourmind.org to give your gift today. Well, here's Dr. Sproul on the roles of men and women in marriage.

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Welcome once more to our study on Christian marriage, and this will be our last session together. And I've saved the controversial material to this time because what we're going to be looking at here is the role of the man and the woman in marriage.

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Chapter 3: What does the Bible say about mutual submission in marriage?

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I think it's important that we give some attention to this question as it is addressed in the New Testament because of the high degree of controversy that has surrounded this issue in recent years. And so I'd like to direct your attention, if I may, to the instruction that we receive in the fifth chapter of Paul's letter to the Ephesians.

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And I'm going to begin at verse 21, where we read these words, submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. That is usually seen as the connecting statement between what Paul taught earlier in this epistle and what will follow now after it. And some see in this verse a key indicator for how what follows is to be understood.

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It says that this verse calls us to mutual submission one to another, and then what follows is wives, submit yourselves to your husband, children to your parents, and so on. And so some say that really what the text is saying is that all of our relationships as Christians, employers, employees, masters and slaves, children and parents, involve a posture of mutual submission.

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So the way we should really read this text is, wives, submit yourselves to your husbands. Husbands, submit yourselves to your wives. I don't have time now to go into all of the technicalities that are involved in understanding and handling this passage, but just let me let you know where I stand on that. I think that is a serious distortion of this biblical text.

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Chapter 4: How should controversial biblical texts be interpreted?

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It involves what we would call an exegesis of despair. I don't think that anybody would be inclined to treat the text this way if we didn't have the kind of controversy going on in our culture right now about the roles of men and of women. Because if we applied that consistently throughout the text, we would have to say, parents, obey your children,

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And as Christ is the head of the church and church is the head of Christ, if we reversed it throughout, it would just end in such bizarre madness that the passage would make no sense. Rather, I think, as the consensus historically of biblical interpreters has been, that what the apostle is saying here is that every Christian at some point is called to submission.

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No one of us is a sovereign of our own. There are all kinds of places where I must submit to the authority and to the leadership of others. And there are places where you are called to be submissive too. But let's look then at what the apostle does command here. And notice that he introduces this by saying, Submit yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

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And frankly, what terrifies me about the controversy that surrounds this text is that I see people in rage saying, who does the Apostle Paul think he is telling wives that they have to submit to their husbands and so on? And they get so angry about this, and I say, wait a minute, wait a minute. If this is simply Paul, the Apostle's chauvinistic statement,

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side coming through and human insight, then it is a statement of supreme arrogance, and I wouldn't blame any woman in the world for being outraged by it. But be careful. If Christ is who He said He was, and He was speaking the truth when He said, ìAll authority on heaven and on earth has been given to Me.î

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That is, if the authority of God is given to Jesus, and then Jesus gives that authority to His apostles, then what we're struggling with in this text is not against some Jewish rabbi's insights, but we're struggling against the law of God. If this is the Word of God, then we need to listen humbly in the fear of God.

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Well, having said that, let's look and see what about this text is so controversial. Well, the beginning part where Paul says, Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands as unto the Lord. Now the second phrase doesn't bother many Christian women. They are perfectly willing to submit themselves to the authority and the leadership of Christ.

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But here Paul is saying that there is to be an analogy that a wife is to submit herself to her husband in a manner analogous to how she would submit herself to Jesus Christ. Now that is a powerful level of submission. That is giving to the husband a significant level of authority. The analogy continues, for the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church.

Chapter 5: What does headship mean in a Christian marriage?

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So that in a manner similar to the way in which Christ is the head of the church, so the man is the head of the wife. And I've seen all kinds of games being played with that text by commentators who want to get out from under it. But the obvious meaning of headship in the New Testament and in the Greek language is to be in the position of preeminence and in the position of leadership.

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And what I understand this text to be saying is that in the home, the husband is to be the head of the home. This is not a license for tyranny. This is not a license to demean the woman. or to treat the woman as a slave, but the responsibility for final authority and for leadership in the home is vested in the husband.

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And if the woman resists that, if that interpretation is correct, obviously, if the woman resists that, she is resisting God. It's God who gives that directive. And so, as I say, I'm frightened when I hear women protest so vehemently against this. Again, if they're protesting against me, that's okay. If they're protesting against other human beings, that's okay.

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But if the protest is leveled against God, then that is a very, very serious matter. Now, another question immediately comes up here, and that is, should a woman always and under all circumstances submit herself to the husband.

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I've seen teaching going about the evangelical Christian world that talks about a chain of command and says that this chain of command is so ironclad that a woman is responsible to obey her husband no matter what her husband tells her to do. If her husband tells her to engage in prostitution, she is to follow in godly submission in that role.

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If the husband tells her she is not allowed to go to church on Sunday morning, she must refrain from going to church on Sunday morning. Ladies and gentlemen, that runs counter to everything the Scripture tells us about obedience to God. Yes, there is a delegated level of authority in the Scriptures. God is supreme. He delegates to Christ. Christ delegates to the apostles.

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And we're told that all authority in this world ultimately comes from God. And we are called to be submissive to kings and to honor the princes and to obey the civil magistrates and so on. But elsewhere, the Scripture makes it clear that we are to obey those in authority over us only on these two conditions.

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Only when that authority commands us to do what is right or forbids us from doing what is wrong. Let me say it another way, that a woman or anybody may... Disobey authority whenever that authority commands that person to do something God forbids or forbids that person from doing something God commands.

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In those two instances, if there's a conflict between the authority of God and the human authority, not only may we disobey that human authority, we must disobey that human authority. We see that in the New Testament where Christ commands His apostles to preach the gospel. They begin to preach the gospel and the authorities come to them and tell them to stop preaching the gospel.

Chapter 6: When is it appropriate to disobey human authority?

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It's not like you have to submit yourself to everybody else's husband and that every guy has authority over every woman. That's not what we're talking about. Submit yourselves unto your own husbands.

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And I like the word own there because the word for own in the Greek is the word ideon, from which we get the word idiosyncrasy, which indicates a person's own private peculiarities, something that is unique to the person. And it's also the Greek word from which the English word idiot comes.

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So a little bit of loose translation may read like this, where God says, wives, submit yourselves to your idiot husbands. It's like, I know that they're idiots, but I want you, for my sake, to submit yourselves to them anyway. You hear constantly in our culture the myth of the 50-50 marriage. I can't think of anything worse.

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Because in a 50-50 situation where there is no final authority, what fallen human beings tend to do in that situation is to be locked into a perpetual power struggle where everybody is agitating to get 51% of the stock to get control. God settles that. God says, final say, authority and leadership is vested in the man.

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I'm not so sure that's a privilege so much as it is a weighty, weighty responsibility. I'd like to have a word with women. I know that women have been crying out for the past decades, bleeding. about the way in which we have interpreted this passage where men have bought into the myth that the only way God could tell women to submit to husbands is if men are naturally superior to women.

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That is not true whatsoever. Subordination in terms of division of labor in the Bible, never carries with it the idea of inferiority. So in marriage, there's no less dignity, no less importance, no less value to the woman than to the man.

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And if it's men who teach that, then that is a misrepresentation of what the Bible is commanding, and it is men distorting their role and using it as a license for tyranny. And that has happened. And women have cried out, that's enough. And so we've listened to the cries of women. And I think we need to hear them. But women, I think there's something you need to hear from men.

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And the reason I want to mention this is because men won't mention it. Some psychiatric studies were made and it was discovered that the American male, on the average, has five times more nightmares than the American woman. He said, well, what does that have to do with this? I said, well, here's what it has to do with.

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The single number one fear that crops up in nightmares for the American male is the fear of providing for his family. I don't think we all really understand the significance of that. It's also said that when men get together and talk privately with each other, they talk freely about sports and about business and about women, but they won't sit there in a group and say, I'm scared.

Chapter 7: What are the misconceptions about equality in marriage?

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And I say, well, honey, a decision has to be made. And I bear the responsibility. So I'm going to have to ask you to submit. I'm fortunate. Those three times she said, okay. But I understand the difficulty of that. But this is the way that God has ordered His creation. Therefore, as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.

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As far as I'm concerned, that's the easy part of the passage. Of course, the grass is always greener on the other side. I think women have the easy role here to perform. I wish all I had to do was submit and let my wife have that position of leadership and authority in the house. The hard part comes now. Listen to what God says to the man. Husbands, love your wives.

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Now, if it just stopped there, that wouldn't be so bad. But listen to what he said. Love your wives as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it. I've never met a woman who said that she would have a hard time submitting to the authority of her husband if her husband was Jesus. She would never have to be afraid of being exploited by Jesus. She would never be a victim of tyranny.

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She would never be a victim of abuse. She would never be a battered wife. She would never be an abused wife, would she? And what God says to me as a husband and to you as a husband is you are responsible to love your wives like Jesus loved the church. How much does Jesus love the church? I mean, look, Jesus is elevated by God to the right hand of the Father.

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That means He is placed in the seat of cosmic authority. He is responsible to run the universe, for in Him and by Him and for Him are all things. Do you understand what an administrative nightmare it is to organize and operate and manage the universe every day. If ever a husband had an excuse to say, I'm too busy with more important things than to talk to my wife, it would be Jesus.

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But this same Jesus who is responsible to manage the universe promises and keeps the promise to hear every prayer that comes to him from his bride. He listens to his bride. He cares about his bride. So much does he care about his bride that he lays down his life for his bride.

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I tend to be a leader more than a follower because I have found precious few people in this world that I'm willing to follow. But it is exciting when I find somebody I admire enough and respect enough and trust enough to follow. And one thing is important to me before I follow someone. I don't want to follow somebody into an ambush.

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I don't want to be loyal to somebody only to have that person turn on me and shoot me in the back. But can you imagine how liberating it is to follow somebody that you know in advance is prepared to die for you?

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That's the responsibility I have to my wife, that I'm to love her, not just a feeling of warm fuzzies, but I'm to live in such a way that she understands that I am prepared to sacrifice my life for her. And you see how this thing works out mutually? That's hard for me to commit myself to anybody, to a woman, to that degree, to say, I'm ready to die for you. for your well-being.

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