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“Poilievre Is Afraid!” – Maxime Bernier: The Truth About Trudeau, Carney & Canada’s PM Election | PBD Podcast | Ep . 564
Fri, 21 Mar 2025
Patrick Bet-David interviews Maxime Bernier of the People’s Party of Canada to discuss Justin Trudeau, Pierre Poilievre, mass immigration, conservative values, and how Canada can reclaim its future through bold leadership and independent thinking.------👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4📰 VTNEWS.AI: https://bit.ly/3OExClZ🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/4g57zR2💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Chapter 1: Who is Maxime Bernier and what is his role in Canadian politics?
How do you, because when I watch how he manages the relationship with President Trump, and you see President Trump saying what he's saying about, you know, Mark Carney, Und wie bist du es, mit dem Präsidenten zu arbeiten, wenn der Präsident sagt, Kanada ist der 51. Staat? Bist du überhaupt überhaupt offen auf die Idee, Kanada ist der 51. Staat? Oder ist er einfach nur mit dir zu tun?
Das ist so, wie du es beobachtest. Aber was ist dein Ansatz? Sagen wir mal, du wirst ein Premierminister werden. Was wird dein Ansatz sein, wenn es um den Präsidenten Trump geht?
I'm not open to the 51st state. You know, I'm doing like Trump in Canada. I'm fighting for Canadians and for the sovereignty of our country. I'm putting my people first. So the way to deal with President Trump, it's, you know, you need to... Right now, we have a free trade agreement between us, the US and Mexico. And that... That will have to be reopened in 2026.
We need to reopen that free trade agreement right now. And we need to put everything on the table. For example, President Trump is the one who negotiated the free trade agreement when he was president at his first term. And he wanted to, for your dairy producers, to be able for them to export their milk in Canada.
But because we have a cartel, a system called the supply management, you know, our dairy, poultry and eggs producers are producing only for the Canadian market. They cannot export and they are fixing the price. They call that supply management. It's a legal cartel. So, and Trump was not so happy at the last negotiation because, you know, we said no.
We have to protect the cartel and we want to open our borders to your milk, cheese and eggs. So we need to put that on the table. But Polyev and Trudeau, they want to protect the cartel. They are very influential. Actually, you know, they did...
They did buy membership cards of the Conservative Party of Canada when I was running to be the leader to be sure that I won't win because I said at that time, 10 years ago, we need to abolish that cartel and it would be good for Canadian consumers because we are paying twice the price if we compare that price with prices in the US for milk, poultry and eggs because of that cartel.
So let's put that on the table and the only one who is saying that We will be able to have a good deal. And Trump said, you know, if you are imposing tariff, I will impose tariff. If you withdraw your tariff, I will do the same. I believe in free trade. Let's do a real free trade.
But right now there's 300% tariffs on the milk and you cannot export your milk in Canada because you won't be competitive with that tariff of 300%. But it's not only with milk, it's a lot of other products. We don't have a free trade between Canada and US. We have a managed trade. Trump wants to have a fair relationship. Let's abolish all these tariffs. It will be good for us and good for you.
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Chapter 2: Why does Maxime Bernier criticize Pierre Poilievre and the Conservative Party?
Is that the wrong impression or the right impression?
I think he went there to try to have... Our economy is 75% dependent on you guys. We are exporting. As you know, you have a trade deficit with us. The majority of the trade deficit is coming because of oil and gas first. If you don't... Don't put that in the equation. You won't have a trade deficit with us. So it's coming because of oil and gas.
So I believe what he tried to do is to be sure to be able to have maybe a free trade agreement with Europe or with UK. Actually, we tried to have a free trade agreement with UK a year ago. That free trade agreement didn't work because of what? The cartel. The Canadian government said we have to protect the cartel and the UK said we want to export the Stilton in Canada.
Because of cheese, we were not able to have a free trade agreement. And now they're saying, oh, you know, now we need to look at having more opportunities for our businesses and let's go and try to sign free trade agreements with Europe and other countries in the UK.
Ja, wenn ich das sehe, wie schaut sich Kanada an, wie schauen sich Kanadier an den USA und Frankreich an? Ist es freundlich? Was ist die Beziehung dort?
Es ist eine freundliche Beziehung, tatsächlich, ja. Aber, du weißt, die Realität ist, wir sind in Nordamerika. We need to have good relationship with you guys. I fully agree. That's the basic. You know, we cannot go pro, we cannot be, and with the multipolar world right now, with China, Russia, BRICS countries, so we are with you guys.
And we need to just have a good deal with you that will be good for you and for us. Yes, we can try to have other free trade agreements and, you know, being less dependent on your market But in fact, you know, it's easier now for business people to export to the US than to trade across the country. So we need to fix that, like I said.
But let's have a deal and put everything on the table and have a real free trade. And Trump said, you know... You put tariff, I'll put tariff. You withdraw from tariff, I will do the same. So let's do it. Let's be serious. There's a lot of tariffs that we are imposing to you guys. Let's put that on the table.
Is Carney putting that on the table right now?
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