Nude strangers. Icy roads. Brain rot. True love. Class warfare. Queer visibility. Scripted ad libs. Sociologist, professor, author of the book “True Story: What Reality TV Says About Us,” and straight up Reality TV Sociologist, Dr. Danielle Lindemann studies human behavior through the lens of pop culture and reality TV. Dr. Lindemann lays out the history of the medium, the complexities of why we watch, the effect on society at large, who signs up to be on these shows, how our reactions change to it over time, political consequences of reality TV, and what these shows can teach us about ourselves and each other. Also: the Jackie & Shadow show. Visit Dr. Lindemann’s website and follow her on BlueskyBuy her books including True Story: What Reality TV Says About Us on Bookshop.org or AmazonA donation went to the Pedro Zamora ScholarshipMore episode sources and linksThe Jackie & Shadow ShowSmologies (short, classroom-safe) episodesOther episodes you may enjoy: FIELD TRIP: A Hollywood Visit to the Writers Guild Strike Line, Phonology (LINGUISTICS), Kalology (BEAUTY STANDARDS), Matrimoniology (MARRIAGE), Ethnocynology (HUMANS & DOGS THROUGH TIME), Fanthropology (FANDOMS)Sponsors of OlogiesTranscripts and bleeped episodesBecome a patron of Ologies for as little as a buck a monthOlogiesMerch.com has hats, shirts, hoodies, totes!Follow Ologies on Instagram and BlueskyFollow Alie Ward on Instagram and TikTokEditing by Mercedes Maitland of Maitland Audio Productions and Jake ChaffeeManaging Director: Susan HaleScheduling Producer: Noel DilworthTranscripts by Aveline Malek Website by Kelly R. DwyerTheme song by Nick Thorburn
Chapter 1: What is Reality TV Sociology?
Oh, hey, it's the new leaf on your what you thought was a dying houseplant. Allie Ward, this is Ologies. We're going to get real about sociology. It's everywhere humans are, including in your television. And by that, I mean probably your laptop in bed or your phone on the toilet. Now, reality TV sociology, it's a real thing.
And as proof, we're going to meet a professor of sociology at Lehigh University, who is part of the core faculty of women, gender and sexuality studies, who's also an author of the books, Dominatrix, Gender, Eroticism and Control in the Dungeon. and her highly lauded 2022 release, True Story, What Reality TV Says About Us.
And she studied creative writing at Princeton and then got a PhD in sociology from Columbia and has spent her career analyzing and writing about non-normative or deviant behaviors and how they shed light on how we relate to each other. Now, months back, a tweet of hers went viral, and it was a snapshot of the list of presentations some of her students were giving.
And among them were the sociology of body image and self-worth in The Biggest Loser, the sociology of work and inequality in Below Deck, the sociology of lesbian relationships in The Ultimatum, Queer Love, the sociology of perfectionism in Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. So we will dive into a lot of that and more in a sec.
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What is real in reality TV? Who signs up to be on reality TV? What effect could it have on young brains? Primetime catfights, class warfare, passive aggression.
what reality can teach us about ourselves, eating hamburgers with a camera in your face, good examples, bad examples, race, wealth, and so much more with sociologist, author, professor, and straight-up professional reality TV sociologist, Dr. Danielle Lineman. So many people were like, get her on now. And I was like, I didn't know this was an ology. My name is Danielle Lindeman. She, her, hers.
Great. Reality TV. Did you start off watching it or did you start out so interested in sociology that you realized this was like the perfect cauldron of places to find interesting things about humanity?
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Chapter 2: Who is Dr. Danielle Lindemann and what are her contributions?
But there definitely is still a kind of stigma around it in academia.
Well, there's such a variation in smut level. I feel like you could find highbrow and you can find lowbrow. Is there reality TV that is more respected? And is there some that's like, this is just straight exploitation or scripted? Are there tiers where it gets closer to documentary and then others that get closer to Jerry Springer? Because he's
Take that baby, Drew. She's not mine. Look at this baby. You're telling me you don't have this baby in the yard?
She does not have my head.
Oh, yeah, for sure. There are tears in terms of this kind of ladder of respectability. In fact, there are a lot of people who tell me that they don't watch reality TV. And for the most part, they do. It just turns out they watch things like HGTV or the Great British Bake. You know, they feel more wholesome because they're kind of trying to teach you something. They're less conflict driven.
Although I would still classify those shows as reality, like House Hunters, I would still say is reality TV. But I think there's a sense of some shows that are maybe more education, overtly educational, less conflict driven. People see as more kind of wholesome and acceptable.
And it's kind of interesting because when people tell me they don't watch reality TV, oftentimes they'll say, well, I mean, I don't watch the Kardashians. I don't watch Real Housewives. That's what they think of when they think of reality TV. But most people are watching reality TV in some form.
When does it become a documentary? When does it cross that line? Does it depend on how much producers sort of prod people or nudge them into different directions? Is it talking head confessional booths? Like when is it a documentary and when is it reality TV?
So it's kind of an unsatisfying answer. But as a sociologist, I often say reality TV is a social construct. And so there isn't any one definition of it. So it's kind of messy as a construct. The definition that I use, there's two things, basically, is people behaving as themselves rather than as characters. And you can already see how that's kind of messy, right?
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Chapter 3: How does reality TV reflect societal norms and stereotypes?
A lot of people don't realize the psychological stressors that reality, or maybe don't even care, right? Because they'll just say, well, you shouldn't have gone on the show then, right? You knew what you were getting into. There's kind of that lack of sympathy there. I mean, there are multiple psychological stressors that these people are being pinged with on these shows.
So, I mean, you could argue that under these conditions, any of us would behave badly.
How much does it pay?
When it comes to cash prizes, how does that influence the way... that a show is shot or the outcome. Like Jamie Hanna wanted to know, can you discuss coercion and cash prizes? I'm thinking of someone like Alone who has a half a million dollar cash prize.
When Constantini says, I've noticed that reality TV shows have a really different vibe when there is or is not a cash prize, like the Great British Bake Off versus those crazy stressful Food Network shows. And I remember seeing some meme about how like... The Great British Bake Off is like, well, it's quite good for a fondant, but you could use some work.
And then American cooking shows are like, I need to win this or my child doesn't get cancer care, you know? Yeah. What is the difference there when cash is involved? Patrons Lisa Kahn, Scott Sheldon, Lily B, Brittany Corrigan, Jesse all asked in Lisa's dismayed words, why are American reality shows so awful and cruel?
Great British Bake Off has proven that watching lovely people be kind and wonderful to each other is popular, Jesse says. So is it the lack of safety nets and the fear of getting like a stress-induced disease that will bankrupt you? Is that what drives American reality TV to be a gladiatorial sport? Like what's happening?
Yeah, there's that issue of coercion in reality TV. I do think there's more of an understanding about that, the sort of coercion dynamics of reality TV now. I think that's slightly starting to change. With people realizing like, oh, like, hey, maybe these drunk people who have had no sleep, right, cannot consent to being filmed.
Or what about these kids who are on these reality shows who have no choice but to film, right? Like, is that ethical? Is that coercive? And of course, then they cast people who really need the money.
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