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Normal Gossip

A United Nations of Red Flags with Sam Sanders

Wed, 21 May 2025

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Sam Sanders returns for some gossip about a case of "accidental" love-bombing in a hostel. Follow Sam on Instagram here and check out The Sam Sanders Show for more hot takes on entertainment and culture. We recommend you start here.Get your tickets for the Normal Gossip Live tour here!Subscribe to our newsletter for writing from Rachelle, Se'era, Jae, Alex, and Kelsey, plus blog recommendations and secrets!You can support Normal Gossip directly by buying merch or becoming a Friend or a Friend-of-Friend at supportnormalgossip.com.Our merch shop is run by Dan McQuade. You can also find all kinds of info about us and how to submit gossip on our Komi page: https://normalgossip.komi.io/Episode transcript here.Order Kelsey's book, You Didn’t Hear This From Me, here!Follow the show on Instagram @normalgossip, and if you have gossip, email us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 26-79-GOSSIP.Normal Gossip is hosted by Rachelle Hampton (@heyydnae) and produced by Se'era Spragley Ricks (@seera_sharae) and Jae Towle Vieira (@jaetowlevieira). Alex Sujong Laughlin (@alexlaughs) is our Supervising Producer. Justin Ellis is Defector's projects editor. Show art by Tara Jacoby.Normal Gossip is a proud member of Radiotopia. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

36.806 - 53.339 Rachelle Hampton

Hello and welcome to Normal Gossip. I'm your host, Rachel Hampton, and in each episode of this podcast, we're going to bring you an anonymous morsel of gossip from the real world. Welcome to episode seven, y'all. We've only got three more episodes of season eight after this week, if you can believe it.

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53.679 - 76.272 Rachelle Hampton

But have no fear, if you want more Normal Gossip in your life, then I have got some incredibly exciting news. This September, Ciara and I are bringing Normal Gossip to nine different cities. We are stopping in New York. Boston, Seattle, Portland, Oregon, Denver, Dallas, Austin, Chicago, and Minneapolis. Tickets went on sale to the public on Friday, May 9th.

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Chapter 2: What exciting news does Rachelle share about Normal Gossip?

76.332 - 99.678 Rachelle Hampton

So that means if you are listening right now and live in any of those cities, you can go buy a ticket immediately at normalgossiplive.com. Every show has exclusive VIP tickets that include a meet and greet with Sierra and I, so I hope you're all planning what delicious little morsels of gossip you're going to be bringing us. That is all the housekeeping for today's show. Now, on to the gossip.

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100.119 - 125.089 Rachelle Hampton

Today, I am so excited to have none other than Sam Sanders joining me for the First repeat performance of this season. Sam was on the very first season of Normal Gossip in an episode called Digmatize. Sam is a multi-hyphenate. You might know him from any of the many shows he has created and hosted. Currently, though, you can hear him on Vibe Check with Saeed Jones and Zach Stafford.

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125.27 - 134.892 Rachelle Hampton

And also, you can, of course, hear Sam Sanders on the Sam Sanders Show on KRCW. Hi, Sam. Thank you so much for joining me and welcome back.

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135.232 - 154.361 Sam Sanders

It is so good to be here. I remember being on an episode in season one and I had so much fun because I remember it being about a straight male bartender who was messy. And I remember saying, aren't all straight male bartenders messy? Yes.

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154.915 - 165.787 Rachelle Hampton

You did. You did. You said the red flag was that he was tall, that he was cute, and that he was a bartender. And ever since then, whenever I see a tall, cute bartender, I say, I shouldn't.

166.647 - 168.168 Sam Sanders

Molly, you in danger, girl.

169.549 - 181.958 Rachelle Hampton

Exactly. We, me and you, are part of a very exclusive group, which is the people who were guests on the very first season of Normal Gossip. We were on the train before everyone else. How does it feel to be a Normal Gossip hipster?

182.498 - 186.721 Sam Sanders

Listen, what do I feel like knowing that I was an OG?

186.741 - 187.682 Rachelle Hampton

Yeah.

Chapter 3: What is Sam Sanders' relationship to gossip?

1940.692 - 1944.657 Sam Sanders

You know what? Actually, I fucking love it. It brings the people together.

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1945.54 - 1954.482 Rachelle Hampton

It does. Drew takes karaoke extremely seriously, but not in the annoying way. Not in the annoying way. Not in the Bohemian Rhapsody way. Exactly.

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1954.502 - 1963.725 Sam Sanders

That song is too goddamn long. Don't do it. And you can't hit the notes. No. My go-to karaoke song, Salt-N-Pepa's Push It. It's probably like 18 words long.

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1965.211 - 1976.118 Rachelle Hampton

And everyone knows them. That's a great choice. Drew also has some staple songs. So he immediately sings with arms wide open by Creed with the Canadians.

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1976.738 - 1982.502 Sam Sanders

Honestly, I have done Creed's higher at karaoke. It works.

1983.363 - 1986.785 Rachelle Hampton

Yes. So they've just finished singing with arms wide open.

1986.805 - 1988.526 Sam Sanders

I take it back. I love this story now.

1988.546 - 2011.7 Rachelle Hampton

They sing with arms wide open. But then into the bar walks none other than Oliver. Girl. The Canadians had been too friendly and had apparently posted about their karaoke night on the Hostel World app. This is a problem. Drew's like, I have been betrayed by my one true love, the Hostel World app.

2011.84 - 2017.443 Sam Sanders

Yeah. Also, gosh, talk about an agent of chaos, the Hostel World app.

Chapter 4: How has Sam's perspective on gossip changed since 2022?

2040.79 - 2042.271 Sam Sanders

Vocal rest, baby. Vocal rest.

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2044.443 - 2054.974 Rachelle Hampton

Drew's like, karaoke is a sacred space where no one can be excluded. So he's like, yeah, sure, fine. He perhaps makes another mistake by letting Oliver pick the song.

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2055.435 - 2060.58 Sam Sanders

See? We already know Oliver doesn't make great decisions. Doesn't think before he leaps.

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2061.883 - 2070.371 Rachelle Hampton

So Drew joins Oliver on stage and the opening notes of Islands in the Stream by Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers start playing.

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2070.451 - 2076.057 Sam Sanders

Wow. Is that a lot? You know, I know the song and the melody never dug into the lyrics. Let's see. Is it like a love song?

2076.869 - 2097.301 Rachelle Hampton

Well, I do have some choice lyrics for us. There are, baby, when I met you, there was a peace unknown. Oh. And then there's, the message is clear. This could be the year for the real thing. Oh. And we cannot forget, all this love we feel needs no conversation.

2097.321 - 2117.17 Sam Sanders

Oh, no. I follow the lyrics now. There's another line that says, I set out to get you with a fine-tooth comb. What? I can't live without you if the love was gone. Oh, but that won't happen to us. And we got no doubt too deep in love and we got no way out.

2124.617 - 2138.042 Rachelle Hampton

Oliver is the human embodiment of the hard eyes emoji after this performance. But the thing is, Drew can't even deny that they crushed their performance. They have incredible chemistry.

2138.403 - 2143.285 Sam Sanders

Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew. How are you already that lost in the sauce?

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