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Nobody Should Believe Me

Case Files 13: The Andreas of Ethical True Crime with Andrea Gunning

Thu, 27 Mar 2025

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This week, our Andrea is joined by Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal and There and Gone: South Street. Gunning speaks on her transition from television to podcasting. They both discuss the ethical consideration of the real-world consequences of sharing true crime stories, as well as the emotional weight of telling these stories with care. Gunning and Dunlop reflect on the healing power of storytelling and the importance of humanizing these narratives. They also touch on the challenges faced by women in the podcasting industry.  *** Listen to Betrayal: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-betrayal-weekly-95632727/ Listen to There and Gone: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-there-and-gone-south-stre-185036762/ Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Who are the hosts and what is this episode about?

4.235 - 27.254 Andrea Dunlop

True Story Media. Hello, it's Andrea, and today I have a wonderful crossover episode to share with you. This is my conversation with journalist and podcast host Andrea Gunning of the Betrayal and Betrayal Weekly podcast, as well as a really phenomenal show that we shared a few weeks back, There and Gone South Street.

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27.794 - 47.588 Andrea Dunlop

So today we are talking all things true crime and how we handle this strange and wonderful career that both of us have found ourselves in. I recently was myself a guest on Betrayal Weekly, and I cannot tell you how much I admire this team. They bring so much integrity and care to their reporting and their work.

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48.068 - 62.494 Andrea Dunlop

And it's just always really heartening when you see the behind the scenes of a show that you love and the vibes are this immaculate. Not always the case, unfortunately. We are currently working hard on season six at the moment, which will be coming at you in June.

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62.754 - 76.724 Andrea Dunlop

And in the meantime, we are bringing you a lot more Case File stuff, including our coverage of the Ratty Children's case in San Diego, which we are working on now. If you followed our coverage of the Kowalski case, boy oh boy are you going to notice some similarities.

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77.145 - 90 Andrea Dunlop

As always, if you want to get in touch, you can send us an email or voice memo at hello at nobody should believe me dot com or leave us a comment on Spotify. If you're listening on Apple, you know we love those five-star reviews. Please and thank you.

90.48 - 105.278 Andrea Dunlop

And of course, the best way to support the show, if you are able, is to join us on the subscriber feeds on Apple and Patreon, where you will get two extra episodes a month, ad-free listening, and the entire new season on the day it launches. So with that, here's my conversation with Andrea Gunning.

106.587 - 128.363 Andrea Dunlop

Just a quick reminder that my new book, The Mother Next Door, Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy, is on sale right now wherever books are sold. The book was an Amazon editor's pick for nonfiction, and the Seattle Times called it a riveting deep dive into MBP. And if you are an audiobook lover and you like hearing my voice, which I'm assuming you do since you're listening here,

128.723 - 150.855 Andrea Dunlop

You should know that I narrate the audiobook as well. If you have already read the book, which I know so many of you have, thank you so much. Please let me know your thoughts and questions at helloandnobodieshouldbelieveme.com, and we will bring my co-author, Detective Mike Weber, on for a little book Q&A and post-retirement tell-all special. Thanks for your support. Well, friends, it's 2025.

150.895 - 174.046 Andrea Dunlop

It's here. This year is going to be... Well, one thing it won't be is boring, and that's about the only prediction I'm going to make right now. But one piece of news that I am excited to share is that the wait for my new book, The Mother Next Door, is almost over. It is coming at you on February 4th from St. Martin's Press. So soon!

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