Welcome to our Season 5 Mailbag Episode! This time we’re joined by more of our fabulous Nobody Should Believe Me team: head producer Myrriah Gossett, lead researcher Erin Ajayi, story editor Nichole Hill, and producer Greta Stromquist. The team addresses questions about our coverage of Sophie’s faith, the role that race played in this season, behind-the-scenes of our touching interview with Chalice Howard, and the value of listener feedback. *** Support Myrriah’s other projects! https://www.myrriahgossett.com/ Listen to Nichole’s podcast, Our Ancestors Were Messy: https://thesecretadventuresofblackpeople.com/our-ancestors-were-messy Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the purpose of the Season 5 Mailbag Episode?
True Story Media. Hello, it's Andrea. And today is our season five mailbag episode. Thank you so much to everyone who listened to this season and took the time to leave us comments and questions. We got by far the most feedback we have ever gotten on this season. And I am just really grateful that people are so engaged with this show. It's amazing.
This was a really fun episode to record because I got to bring my entire editorial team on the mic with me. Podcasting is a collaborative art form, and I am so lucky to have such a talented and lovely team. We are hard at work on our new full season, which will be coming out this June.
And in the meantime, we have a bunch of great stuff lined up for our new season of Case Files, which is our in-between season show. We're going to be talking about the lawsuit against Rady Children's in San Diego, the Bell Gibson case that was the subject of the new Netflix series, Apple Cider Vinegar, and a frequently requested topic, chronic Lyme.
So stay tuned for all of that, and if you're a subscriber, we've got lots of good After Hours stuff coming soon as well. So with that, please enjoy our mailbag episode and let us know your thoughts by leaving us a comment on Spotify or sending us an email to hello at nobody should believe me dot com. Well, friends, it's 2025. It's here. This year is going to be...
Well, one thing it won't be is boring, and that's about the only prediction I'm going to make right now. But one piece of news that I am excited to share is that the wait for my new book, The Mother Next Door, is almost over. It is coming at you on February 4th from St. Martin's Press. So soon!
I co-authored this book with friend and beloved contributor of this show, Detective Mike Weber, about three of the most impactful cases of his career. Even if you are one of the OG-est of OG listeners to this show, I promise you are going to learn so many new and shocking details about the three cases we cover.
We just go into so much more depth on these stories, and you're also going to learn a ton about Mike's story. Now, I know y'all love Detective
Mike because he gets his very own fan mail here at Nobody Should Believe Me and if you've ever wondered how did Mike become the detective when it came to Munchausen by proxy cases you are going to learn all about his origin story in this book and I know we've got many audiobook listeners out there so I'm very excited to share with you the audiobook is read by me Andrea Dunlop your humble narrator of this very show I really loved getting to read this book and I'm so excited to share this with you
If you are able to pre-order the book, doing so will really help us out. It will signal to our publisher that there is excitement about the book, and it will also give us a shot at that all-important bestseller list. And of course, if that's simply not in the budget right now, we get it. Books are not cheap. Library sales are also extremely important for books.
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Chapter 2: Who are the team members featured in this episode?
Um, the rest of it, the part against children's has been dismissed. And yet one of our listeners on the Patreon pointed out that like, yeah, that part certainly, you know, we said it in the show, but that part certainly didn't make the news. Like you cannot find that information except for public records request.
And now obviously the show, um, actually, you know what, before I get to this one, um, I just wanted to talk about our chalice, our chalice, um, Our lovely Chalice. So this was our surprise ninth episode of the season.
You know, this was I've been speaking to Chalice, as I mentioned on the show, really frequently since the fall and had been, you know, communicating with the group about her and, you know, not someone we thought was going to go on the record initially. And that was quite an evolution for her. We had such amazing feedback.
This was by far – this is some of the most positive feedback I've gotten actually from the entire length of the show was just people's reactions to this episode. People really loved hearing from her. And I think there was like a bunch of stuff that resonated with people from the Chalice episode. I think just her love for the girls and even for Sophie like really came through.
And also just I think it really – Part of what really resonated with people, which again, I think in the context of kind of what's going on, is just listening to someone who changed their mind about something. you know?
And so I just wanted to kind of hear from everybody about like, yeah, this was a really like unexpected thing to have this season where we did not go in with any, you know, close sources, um, and didn't know kind of who would come through.
And yeah, I just, I just wanted to get everybody's kind of take on like watching that kind of connection happened behind the scenes and that her decision to go public.
Yeah. I mean, I think for me, it was like the talking, having Chalice as like a person we could ask questions of and like gut check with, especially around, we had a lot of conversations about how can we do the least amount of harm. on this show.
Because it was one of the first seasons that, Andrea, as you mentioned, that we didn't have cooperation of either a survivor or a family member who was involved in a sort of wanting to tell this story. But we saw how it was important because it was talking about larger system failures, right?
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