New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Matt & Brady Tkachuk on 4 Nations Face-Off, Partying with The Cup & Art of Hockey Fights | Ep 126
Wed, 26 Feb 2025
92%ers we are back with another episode of New Heights presented by Suave: No Nonsense Self-Care for Men! Join us for a beauty of an episode, fresh off the 4 Nations Face-Off we’ve got Matthew and Brady Tkachuk! Matt and Brady recap everything about the 4 Nations tournament including how they felt watching each other drop the gloves against Canada, what they talked about in the penalty box, the secrets of hockey fights, and what’s next for hockey fandom in the USA. We also get into the Tkachuk’s path to the NHL, growing up the sons of a hockey legend, Travis “cheating” at drinking games, and the greatest chirp they’ve ever heard. Finally, we discuss Travis’ new movie, Jason’s time at the Eagles parade, a Gritty conspiracy theory, and we ask the 92%ers to help us plan our offseason. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. ...Download the full podcast here:Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMbApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynwFollow New Heights on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshowCheck out all of our new merch’ at https://homage.com/newheightsSupport the Show: SUAVE: Suave Men: No Nonsense Self-Care for Men. Find NEW deodorants in stores https://a.co/d/iSEEdwnMY DEAD FRIEND ZOE: Only in theaters this Friday! Buy Tickets Now. https://www.mydeadfriendzoemovie.com/MENTOS: Yes to Fresh with Mentos Gum https://www.amazon.com/mentos TURBO TAX: Now This is Taxes. Brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Visit https://turbotax.intuit.com/ AUDIBLE: Sign up for a free 30-day trial at http://audible.com/newheights ALLSTATE: Checking first is smart. So, check https://Allstate.com first for a quote that could save you hundreds.ACCELERATOR: Click the link below to get a case of the Kelce Brothers’ favorite energy drink!https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/FB06B38E-F0C2-479F-9DA5-FD4A1C852B07?channel=NewHeights2025See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: How do the Tkachuk brothers feel about the 4 Nations tournament?
So she's actually, unfortunately we're doing the podcast. So she's at, she's at the alpaca right now without me. We've kind of been celebrating it last night and today. But yeah, Benny's she is so funny right now. And she's at that age where she responds and can talk, but she doesn't always know what she's saying. And it's just adorable. And like, I don't know.
It's hard to explain, but it's fantastic to interact with her on a daily basis. That's cool. Seeing the learning process and the curiosity of a child all manifesting, that's probably my favorite part about being a parent, is just watching a child figure things out.
and being there with them while they're doing that and like how amazing something as simple as like figuring out how to open up the fridge or you know whatever it is every day there's gonna be something that just blows her mind that you take advantage of every single day as a grown-up and you're like oh my god this just made this little kid's entire day was figuring out how to screw unscrew a water bottle right now that's all she's doing the rest of the day
And it's like the best thing ever. So anyways, Benny's doing great. Happy birthday to Benny.
Happy B-Day.
By the time the next kid is here, we'll have a five-year-old, a four-year-old, a two-year-old, and a newborn. So we're in the thick of it. We're in the thick of it big time. It's going to be crazy. I still don't know how we're going to handle four, but it's going to be intense.
Hell yeah. You guys will be great. I can't wait to fucking get up in there and have some fun with those girls. I'm going to hand them right back to you. All right.
That's the benefit of the uncle. Uncle Travi.
Well, we got some updates for the Heights Hotline.
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Chapter 2: What was it like for the Tkachuk brothers growing up with an NHL legend as a father?
So, so I'm not sure when exactly did they start doing the four nations tournament for, for all the football, like listeners that we got on here instead of the all-star game, they went with the four nations tournament, right?
Yeah, this is the first year.
This was the first year. I was about to say, I don't remember this happening ever before.
Yeah, it's because it's for some reason, you know, nine years since there's a best on best tournament. And I think they wanted to kind of bring a little energy for the Olympics next year since, you know, the NHL guys are back going to the Olympics. And I think the NHL, NHLPA did it.
unbelievable job and and i know it blew like we were talking about it blew the expectations right out of the water it was so so awesome yeah i mean trab was talking about it i don't i haven't seen the general country as excited for hockey as much as it was for this last year and there's a lot of politics at play and other things that made it even more intense on the ice for you guys but i love when hockey is that relevant it's exciting it's freaking aggressive there is passion out there
Everybody loved what you guys are putting out there for Team USA.
And the product. The product. The games were fucking fun as fuck to watch. Outside of, you know what I mean, the two brawls or the three brawls within the first, like, minute of the game. Dude, it was electric the entire tournament. And I think that, you know, me and Jason grew up playing hockey. I don't know if you guys knew this, but Jason played through high school.
I only played up to eighth grade. Don't get me wrong. It was just like double-A hockey. It wasn't anything too crazy, but... It was it was one of the most fun sports that I played growing up. And I wish I would have fucking stayed on the ice just because of how much fun you have when you you get out there. Did you guys like grow up playing other sports or was it just hockey?
Because I know the road to the NHL isn't your traditional road where typically guys go through like the high school ranks and everything like that. Like they go through juniors up in Canada. There's a lot of different like avenues you can go. Yeah. What was it? What was it like growing up playing hockey?
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Chapter 3: What are the Tkachuk brothers' thoughts on hockey fights?
And I think that they had the same response on their end. And, That's what made it so electric. Like there was two countries in particular in Canada and the U.S. that were so proudly like fighting for each other. And it was just awesome to witness. One of the things that Travis and I never got to do, unfortunately, with football is we never got to represent our country.
So it's just so awesome to be able to see you guys do that.
We're living through our NHL brothers, man. We appreciate you guys.
I got to go to the Olympics for the first time this year, which was awesome. You get to see a bunch of people compete for the United States there. But yeah, watching this was incredible. I do got to ask you, there's an art to hockey fights that Travis and I never got skilled enough or advanced enough to learn.
Our hockey fights never got out of the locker. We were locker box in the middle of hockey camps and stuff like that. But that was as far as it got.
We got a very rudimentary upbringing with either locker boxing or our man Steve Bogus, who was both of our coaches, little leagues.
Stevie.
Stevie, rest in peace. He is no longer with us. But he said you got to grab the other guy's right hand with this hand. You grab his shoulder right there, and you kind of steer it, and then you're throwing with this one. And I don't know. Is there more to it than that? Or what's the art of the hockey fight? Are there unwritten rules?
I'm going to take this question off because Brady would kick my ass. Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How did Matthew Tkachuk celebrate winning the Stanley Cup?
This fucking jabroni.
So congratulations for winning that. We did have another – speaking of cups, we did have another cup situation this offseason. You brought up Tahoe. We got to see Travis' flip cup skills. Were you impressed with Travis' flip cup skills? He's a little bit of a flanker. You got to be careful with him.
I remember it was the first time I played the drinking game baseball. Yeah! And that was, I've told the story because, you know, I don't know, one of the guys that we were playing with, I know it was four on four. I know our team was Travis, Miles, Teller, Chase Crawford and myself. It was B.G., Blake Griffin, the Miz, Osh, and Baker. Yeah, so it was kind of an iconic game.
And somebody's family member, I don't know who, but took a picture of it or something. I just remember, I mean, Trav was like Shohei. He was hitting home runs and stealing bases. He was the MVP.
You were just hitting singles, hey? I was hitting singles and everything.
camaraderie guys on base on base percentage that's what it's all about on base percentage yeah that was uh that was a really fun uh i mean you guys know how fun that week was and i'm looking forward to this year again brady you're gonna make it out to tylo this year i'll take a caddy job at this point i don't have to have the stress of shanking and hitting people it happens
If you make it out this year, Brady, we got us four. We got to get a mini sticks drinking game figured out. We got to figure out some game revolving mini sticks and beer. I'm in on that.
Absolutely. I remember Osh, man. Once we went to flip cup, I started kind of getting a little like bending the rules a little bit. Dude, he was not having it, man. I was like, I'm one more like cheating, like. One more time cheating away from just getting fucking socked by my guy right here, man.
We're about to have a good old-fashioned hockey fight right here.
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Chapter 5: How can hockey continue to grow in the USA?
Brady's probably built for – you've got a little tight end in you, Brady, I think. Tight end, D end, maybe. I can see that. And then I think I'm linebacker. Throw that in there. Middle linebacker. Let them know. Yeah, probably middle linebacker. All heart, baby. All heart. A middle linebacker that, you know, wants some goal line offensive plays for a touchdown. There we go.
Give me a vote.
No Mikey Braves in there, man. Hell yeah.
who talks the best uh best shit on the ice man i mean matthew i know he's tripped me in a game before i'm like oh my god i'm your brother i don't yeah you just you just rattled me so i don't i'm giving him like in calgary when you trip me like go go hop on the bike like in between periods i'm like my conditioning that bad i just was like I guess I am really struggling out here.
I just know Brady. I actually do remember. I just know that that would actually affect him, and I can't believe it did.
This is great.
Yeah, it's surprising. There's not much chirping in the NHL anymore. It's kind of like a lost art. I mean, people just don't really do it that much. I think the intimidation factor is more of the chirp itself than the actual words. So I think Brady's pretty good at that as well.
Is there a hockey slang that people should use more? Hmm.
I feel like if you're around hockey players enough, you kind of hear like the natural, like, I don't know, like slang and just like lingo that you guys use on the ice. And it's like, I don't know. It's so fun to be around, especially when you guys are competing. I don't know. I just I feel like there's definitely something like that. I didn't know if you guys had any fun shit for us.
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