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India and Pakistan Conflict & Trump Fights Climate Rules | 5.8.25

Thu, 8 May 2025

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Attacks between India and Pakistan move the two nuclear powers closer to war, Trump and Republicans sue Democrat led states over restrictive energy laws and live sports programming dominates viewing trends. Get the facts first with Morning Wire.Fast Growing Trees: Use code WIRE at checkout for 15% off your first order or visit fastgrowingtrees.com/wireJeremys: Try Jeremy’s Razors for 20% off risk-free at jeremysrazors.com/MORNINGWIRE

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Chapter 1: What are the current tensions between India and Pakistan?

3.231 - 9.214 Georgia Howe

Attacks between India and Pakistan continue to escalate, causing fears of an all-out nuclear war.

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9.774 - 12.115 Professor Anthony Glees

There can be no winners in a nuclear conflict.

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12.595 - 16.557 John Bickley

And President Trump prepares for a major overseas foreign policy trip.

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17.157 - 24.1 Georgia Howe

I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley. It's Thursday, May 8th, and this is Morning Wire.

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31.015 - 36.918 John Bickley

Democrat-led states over their climate agenda saying they're choking energy production and threatening national security.

37.158 - 43.982 Steve Hilton

California is setting such strict fuel economy standards, you know, it's a de facto ban on gas-powered cars.

44.462 - 52.106 Georgia Howe

And the next evolution of TV ratings has arrived, and sports is the overwhelming winner. We break down the data on viewing trends.

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Streaming now is almost 40% based on the latest report, with broadcast and cable adding up to close to 50%.

58.809 - 62.024 John Bickley

Thanks for waking up with Morning Wire. Stay tuned. We have the news you need to know.

Chapter 2: How is President Trump approaching his foreign policy trip?

106.874 - 118.38 John Bickley

Here to break down the president's diplomatic efforts and the brewing conflicts is Daily Wire's senior editor, Kabat-Phillips A. Kabat. So let's start with what's happening with India and Pakistan. Very concerning there. Get us up to speed here.

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118.68 - 139.673 Kabat-Phillips

So the two countries, each with large nuclear arsenals, have long been bitter rivals, feuding over everything from disputed borderlines to religion. But in the past week, we've seen just a dramatic escalation that has the two now on the brink of all-out war. In late April, a group of Islamic militants crossed from Pakistan to Indian-controlled Kashmir and slaughtered 26 tourists.

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140.333 - 158.428 Kabat-Phillips

India accused the Pakistani government of being involved in that attack and responded Wednesday with military strikes on Pakistan's heavily populated Punjab region, killing more than two dozen and injuring 46 others. India says that they targeted, quote, terror camps. Pakistan says they killed civilians, including worshippers at two mosques.

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159.028 - 170.071 Kabat-Phillips

And now the world is holding its breath to see if and how Pakistan is going to respond. For more on how serious this situation is, I spoke with Professor Anthony Glees, security expert from the University of Buckingham.

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171.071 - 201.435 Professor Anthony Glees

Pakistan's authorities are also saying that in the Punjab, a mosque was attacked. And that is like a red rag to a raging bull when bearing in mind what happened. Islamists, so extreme Muslims might make of the situation. Both populations, the Indian population, demand retribution, and the Pakistani population are now demanding retribution.

202.381 - 214.949 Kabat-Phillips

For their part, the Trump administration has largely avoided taking a side. Keep in mind, both of these countries are considered US allies. The White House simply said that they will engage the two to find a, quote, peaceful solution. Here's Glees on what a peace could look like.

216.01 - 253.4 Professor Anthony Glees

The best thing that would happen would be that India would say, our honor is satisfied. We've taught the Islamists well. who we believe are being nurtured and cherished by Pakistan. We taught them a lesson they won't forget. We're not going to take this any further. And Pakistan will say we will try to gain something back from India, but we at the moment are going to... consider our position.

253.921 - 262.819 Professor Anthony Glees

We may attack in the future. It will be at a time and a place of our choosing, but we're not going to get into tit for tat.

263.442 - 276.172 Kabat-Phillips

Pakistan has said they are mounting a military response to India strikes. It remains to be seen if that's just saber rattling or a true declaration of war. While we wait to find out, the Middle East and really the whole world is holding its breath.

Chapter 3: What legal battles are Trump and Republicans engaging in over climate laws?

467.071 - 489.308 H. Sterling Burnett

What they're trying to accomplish is rein in states trying to dictate interstate commerce. We have a constitution. In the constitution, it specifically and solely delegates the power to regulate interstate commerce to the Congress of the United States of America, not to California, not to New York, only to Congress.

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490.225 - 507.502 Tim Pierce

Each of these DOJ lawsuits focuses on the Clean Air Act, which the Trump administration says the states have violated with their attempts to punish emissions. Attorney General Pam Bondi said in a statement, quote, these burdensome, ideologically motivated laws and lawsuits threaten American energy independence and our country's economic and national security.

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507.765 - 511.848 Georgia Howe

So she's framing this as a pretty dire issue. How are these states responding?

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512.268 - 524.518 Tim Pierce

They're pushing back. Hawaii Attorney General Ann Lopez said in a statement that the federal lawsuit filed by the DOJ attempts to block Hawaii from holding the fossil fuel industry responsible for deceptive conduct that caused climate change damage.

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525.098 - 541.484 Tim Pierce

Hawaii Governor Josh Green went a step farther and suggested that climate change exacerbated by fossil fuel companies is responsible for the 2023 Lahaina wildfire that killed 102 people. For context, Hawaii's utility company said that the fire was actually caused by electrical equipment damaged by high winds.

541.884 - 549.467 Tim Pierce

But officials from these states have all made accusations against fossil fuel companies, such as harming industries like tourism and agriculture through pollution and climate change.

549.887 - 554.069 Georgia Howe

So really vilifying these companies. So what's happening on the political side?

554.602 - 572.609 Tim Pierce

Right. This is actually something that has gotten a lot of bipartisan agreement. Last week, 35 Democrats voted with House Republicans to take away an exemption for California from the Clean Air Act. The waiver originally applied to pollution, but under the Obama administration, it expanded to cover vehicle emissions. Morning Wire spoke to Steve Malloy.

Chapter 4: How is live sports programming affecting TV ratings?

572.649 - 578.552 Tim Pierce

He's the founder of Junkscience.com and served on the Trump EPA transition team. Here's what he said about the California waiver.

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579.087 - 596.741 Steve Hilton

Because California is such a large car market, car makers don't make California cars and cars for the other 49 states. They just make one type of car. So California wants to be able to drive gas powered cars out of existence in favor of EVs.

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597.182 - 601.045 Tim Pierce

That waiver now may be on life support since it appears to be so unpopular in Congress.

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601.705 - 605.108 Georgia Howe

Well, and unpopular with voters, too. Tim, thanks for reporting.

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605.388 - 605.929 Tim Pierce

Thanks for having me on.

608.302 - 619.527 Georgia Howe

Nielsen ratings have long been a guide to help gauge TV viewership, but new technology is delivering more accurate information. What it shows is that live sports programming absolutely dominates the market.

619.767 - 631.872 John Bickley

Crane & Company co-host David Cohn joins us now to break down the numbers. Hey, David. So Nielsen finally using this new way of analyzing the metrics and drawing in more data. It's really having some amazing results.

632.312 - 648.697 David Cohn

What are we seeing? Yeah, this is certainly a game changer for the TV ratings industry. And the context here is that it has become increasingly more difficult to track how people are engaging with their content with cell phones and tablets and computers and smart TVs and such. But there is new technology and it's far more accurate.

648.937 - 669.745 David Cohn

And the big switch to this new technology happened in January when Nielsen received accreditation for it. And they're calling this measurement technology Big Data plus panel. So what this does, it takes viewership data from cable and satellite set top boxes and combines that with smart TVs. And that is called automatic content recognition.

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