
Episode 530: Neal’s back! Neal and Toby chat about Trump’s announcement of the first US strategic crypto reserve that caused crypto prices to spike. Then, a tense episode in the oval office has some wondering if that’s opened the possibility of companies returning to Russia. Plus, Skype is shutting down for good, says Microsoft. Meanwhile, the Oscars and a Chinese ice cream chain are the Weekend Winners. Finally, a preview of the week ahead. Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here: https://link.chtbl.com/MBD Watch Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow There are risks involved with investing in ETFs, including possible loss of money. ETFs are subject to risks similar to those of stocks. Investments focus in a particular sector, such as technology, are subject to greater risks and are more greatly impacted by market volatility, than more diversified investments. The Nasdaq-100 Index® includes the 100 largest non-financial companies listed on the Nasdaq. An investment cannot be made directly into an index. As of Feb. 7, 2025, the Invesco QQQ ETF held 8.68% in Apple Inc., 7.69% in Microsoft and 5.34% in Google. Holdings are subject to change and are not buy or sell recommendations. Invesco Distributors, Inc. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the highlights from Neil's trip to Vietnam?
Okay, first of all, shout out to you and Anne for holding down the fort. You guys did a great job. So I have a couple of roses. Vietnam is an incredible country. I encourage everyone to go. First is the motorbike and scooter culture of Ho Chi Minh City. It is crazy. It is as advertised. So when you call an Uber there, it's actually Grab. It's not a car for the most part. It's a scooter.
So some person comes and then you just hop on the back and it's a little nerve wracking at first. But then you realize that it is really the best way to get around the city. Then in another city, we did a cooking class. Shout out, Van, for your incredible cooking. teaching skills. We went to the market to get all these fresh ingredients, came back, and I learned how to cook.
So I will definitely be cooking up some shaking beef for you, Toby. And then finally, we did a quick stop over in Hong Kong on the way back. And a rose there was definitely the peak. There's this mountaintop where you look over the city and It was probably the most breathtaking view I have ever seen. Better than the Grand Canyon, better than anything else. It was astonishing.
And then, I guess, okay, we'll talk about a thorn. That was the 15-hour flight back from Hong Kong to New York City. It is a long flight, but I tried to mitigate that by just crushing movies. I watched three, Conclave, Before Sunrise, and Apocalypse. Now, all three were excellent.
Murder is a row right there. Well, it is great to have you back. Glad you got some R&R. And yes, I will take you up on that shaking beef offer. Now a word from our sponsor, Invesco QQQ. Question for you, Neil. If you could time travel to the future, what's the first thing you'd do? Easy. Bet on the Eagles to win the Super Bowl again. Go birds.
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Chapter 2: What is the US strategic crypto reserve?
While the traditional finance world was sleeping over the weekend, Trump announced a move that set the crypto world on fire, the establishment of a U.S. strategic crypto reserve. The announcement follows through on a campaign promise from Trump and furthers his pledge to position the U.S. as the crypto capital of the world.
It also provides a shot of adrenaline for the crypto market that had been in a post-election funk. Bitcoin had dipped below $80,000 to a three-month low, but jumped 10% on the back of the announcement. Ethereum, XRP, Solana, and Cardano also jumped double digits on the news that they were to be included in the reserve, with Cardano soaring more than 60% alone.
Chapter 3: Why are crypto prices spiking?
If those names sound familiar, they're all part of the eight biggest cryptocurrencies by market cap, whose post-announcement rallies helped push the total market cap of the industry back over $3 trillion.
Neil, after Trump took office, there was all this enthusiasm around crypto, but outside of the SEC dropping some investigations and the launch of some meme coins, there wasn't a whole lot of action. But now here is some action along with some controversy.
Perhaps the timing was not a coincidence with Bitcoin falling 28% from its peak. What even is a strategic reserve? Well, it's typically a stock of a critical resource that you can tap for. During emergency times, times of crisis when you need this, when you need access to this resource, probably the best known example is the U.S.
Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which we set up after the Arab oil embargo in the mid 70s. That is oil. You know, it kind of runs our runs our energy system.
the moment so that is you know an example of something that you would probably have a strategic reserve of Canada has a strategic reserve of maple syrup China has one of pork metals and grains so the big question is why do we need a one for Bitcoin which I don't think anyone would consider a critical resource
It is more probably the fact that it was a campaign promise. This was floated over the campaign trail by Trump saying that maybe a strategic Bitcoin reserve would be something that he would establish once in office, which is why I said there's some controversy around this because it's not just Bitcoin in this strategic reserve. There are coins like XRP. There are coins like Cardano. Solana in it.
And so that is leading to questions because those are not decentralized currencies at all. There's founding teams there. And there's a lot of crypto donors from those neck of the woods, essentially, that gave money to Trump's campaign.
And now here he is turning around and essentially pumping those bags of those crypto holders, which led to a lot of pushback saying like, hey, these are the wealthy donors that helped propel you to a victory in the election. And now here you are, including some of the tokens that will increase their wealth here. There is a conflict of interest there. There's a conflict of ethics there as well.
And even those criticisms were coming from people in the crypto community. Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong tweeted after this news came out that he was still sifting through the details. And again, we don't know a ton of details. We're probably going to get more of those on Friday. The Trump administration is hosting this big crypto summit at the White House, the first ever.
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Chapter 4: How is the US-Russia relationship changing under Trump?
Meanwhile, in the US, while Trump's team is lambasting Ukraine, they appear to be warming up to Russia as they work together on a ceasefire deal that sidelines Europe. And this sudden thawing of an icy relationship raises an interesting question. Would American companies that pulled out of Russia when it invaded three years ago return? Trump and his top lieutenants seem to be hoping so.
A week ago, Secretary of State Marco Rubio hyped up the, quote, pretty unique, potentially historic economic partnerships between U.S. companies and Russia. Trump himself said, it's a great thing if we settle this. It's great for Russia, too, because we could do deals there. Russian President Vladimir Putin also welcomed the idea, saying he'd be open to cooperation with U.S. companies.
Toby, this would be a stunning reversal. More than 1,000 multinational corporations scampered out of Russia in 2022, and Western countries have placed heavy economic sanctions on business dealings in Russia. Would American CEOs consider going back?
Not that many companies seem too eager to reenter the market for a variety of reasons. One, Russia's government obviously still has incredible influence over the economic outcomes that happen in the country. Two, inflation is still rearing pretty unchecked there in this war environment, wartime environment. Interest rates are also uncomfortably high.
They're pushing 21% right now to try to cool off and not send the country into hyperinflation. And third, There is some issues with just the rule of law. It only exists kind of in theory in Russia. So all of those are not that welcoming to a multinational corporation to set up shop and do business there.
Really, outside of the energy sector, there's not a ton of companies that are saying, yippee-ki-yay, I want to get back into Russia here. So even though that we're hearing this dialogue floated, I don't know if we're going to see a flood of those thousands of multinational corporations reentering this market.
Most of those companies that left were doing, you know, about 1% of their global revenue in Russia before the war. I think the biggest one that I can think of is McDonald's, which had 9% of its global revenue in Ukraine and Russia. McDonald's severed ties. So did so many, you know, American brands that pulled out. So they weren't doing a ton of business in Russia beforehand.
Now that the economy, you know, is... soaring inflation and interest rates are at 21%. It does not appear like, yeah, they're going to be rushing back. There could be opportunities for the energy industry, as you mentioned, to go. And they were the biggest multinational players in Russia even before the war started. And there are reports out from the
Putin ally and an ex-Russian spy was courting American investors to restart or to start up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which delivered natural gas from Russia to Germany. So we'll have to watch what happens on the energy front.
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Chapter 5: Why is Microsoft shutting down Skype?
Yeah, the writing was on the wall here. Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, who wasn't the one who bought Skype, that was Steve Ballmer. He hadn't mentioned Skype on an earnings call since 2017. This was a long sunset period, like those long winter sunsets. And, you know, Microsoft, you mentioned Teams. This is what this is all about.
Microsoft is putting all of its eggs into Teams, which is the workplace platform. messaging software that saw a big bump during COVID and it's leaning, you know, it's basically just bundling everything into that, which is what Microsoft does. So if you are not a fan of Teams, then get on board because everything that Microsoft does is getting thrown into Teams at this point.
I do just want to give Skype its props though, because in our current world, we don't even realize the fact that it is pretty magical that you can talk to someone across the world with really high quality voice and video calls.
But at the time, it was this huge unlock for startups because it was usually only Fortune 500 companies that could afford the setups that could have good quality video with someone across the world. But now here was this very cheap option and it was supposed to supercharged productivity, which it did to an extent. eBay actually originally bought it.
It wanted to use it to help buyers and sellers connect. They thought it would lubricate this online economy, and it didn't quite work. That was also considered a pretty big write-down for the business, and then Microsoft swept in because they saw a similar vision for it. And it just didn't quite hit its stride. So even though, I will say, even as recently as 2017, it was still being used.
Trump used it to field questions from journalists at the White House. So as recently as 2017, it was still being used in high-profile scenarios. But now you're right. It's just been eaten alive by Microsoft Teams. It's been eaten alive by WhatsApp, eaten alive by Facebook or FaceTime. So it had a big peak, but, you know, poor one out for Skype. Up next... It is time for our winners of the weekend.
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