Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 – Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
11 Oct 2023
Jared Kushner is a former Senior Advisor to President Donald Trump and author of Breaking History. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/jared-kushner-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Breaking History (book): https://amzn.to/3QblTNk Jared's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jaredkushner Jared's Instagram: https://instagram.com/jaredckushner Books Mentioned: Prisoners of Geography: https://amzn.to/3tubxzf The Guns of August: https://amzn.to/3FbWD3c Thirteen Days in September: https://amzn.to/3Fb3EkM The Great Degeneration: https://amzn.to/4921WQv The Hundred-Year Marathon: https://amzn.to/3LRobP7 Destined for War: https://amzn.to/3rKwGEE PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. === Recorded on Mon, Oct 9 === (00:00) - Introduction (07:02) - Hamas attack on Israel (09:55) - Response to attack (16:14) - History of Hamas (18:54) - Iran (20:41) - Al-Aqsa Mosque (27:06) - Abraham Accords (36:00) - Trump vs Biden on Middle East (45:00) - Israeli-Saudi Normalization (49:12) - How the Israel-Gaza war ends (53:29) - Benjamin Netanyahu (57:06) - Palestinian support === Recorded on Thu, Oct 5 === (59:47) - Trump 2024 (1:03:15) - Human nature (1:10:13) - Geopolitics and negotiation (1:18:56) - North Korea (1:27:35) - Personalities of leaders (1:34:11) - Government bureaucracy (1:39:56) - Accusations of collusion with Russia (1:49:35) - Ivanka (1:55:30) - Father (2:04:13) - Money and power (2:12:56) - Trust and betrayal (2:21:57) - Mohammed bin Salman (2:44:16) - Israeli–Palestinian peace process (2:58:47) - Abraham Accords and Arab-Israeli normalization (3:08:53) - Donald Trump (3:13:59) - War in Ukraine (3:19:14) - Vladimir Putin (3:26:33) - China (3:44:50) - Learning process (3:51:19) - Hope for the future
Full Episode
The following is a conversation with Jared Kushner, former senior advisor to the president during the Donald Trump administration and author of Breaking History, a White House memoir.
He's one of the most influential and effective presidential advisors in modern history, helping conduct negotiations with some of the most powerful leaders in the world and deliver results on trade, criminal justice reform, and historic progress towards peace in the Middle East.
On Thursday, October 5th, we recorded a conversation on topics of war and peace, history and power in the Middle East and beyond. This was about a day and a half before the Hamas attack on Israel, and then we felt we must sit down again on Monday, October 9th, and add a discussion on the current situation. We opened the podcast with the second newly recorded part.
My heart goes out to everyone who has and is suffering in this war. I pray for your strength and for the long-term peace and flourishing of the Israeli and Palestinian people. I love you all. And now, a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description. It's the best way to support this podcast.
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This show is brought to you by Insight Tracker, a service I use to track biological data that comes from my body and gives me lifestyle advice based on the very data that came from my body. It's hard to do these ad reads, if I'm being honest, as I'm thinking about everything that's happening in the Middle East today and all the people who are suffering, the Israelis and the Palestinians.
I've traveled to that region recently, and I will return to that region. And if there's any one thing I could say about those travels is I got to see just how beautiful people are. And I got to see, as cliché as it might sound, the common humanity. The culture might be different. The perspectives might be different.
But the hope and the pain and the anger and the love and the full spectrum of the human condition was all there in their eyes. in the eyes of Israelis, in the eyes of Palestinians. So my heart goes out to the people suffering there now. In some fundamental sense, I'm deeply grateful for having these sponsors, for having people that supported this podcast for several years now. It's been an honor.
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