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Lemme Say This

Challengers, Cheeks and Charli XCX (with Michael Cuby) | 30

Wed, 11 Dec 2024

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This week, Hunter and Peyton talk about the bland, boring beauty that is Sofia Richie, run through their best and worst lists for 2024, and chat about the shocking new lawsuit filed against Jay Z. And for Wondery Plus subscribers, Azealia Banks is back and better than ever in her new feud with Matty Healy. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new episodes on YouTube and listen to weekly exclusive bonus content by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/lemme-say-this/ now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What did Hunter do that impressed Peyton?

0.35 - 24.755 Peyton Dix

Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to exclusive bonus episodes of Let Me Say This. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Hunter, I have to say, I was watching your Instagram story this weekend. Cinema. Okay, not too much. See, this is why I hesitate to give you a compliment. And you're already sitting up, perked up, ready for me to sing your praises, which I have to say.

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24.775 - 31.757 Peyton Dix

Or actually, let me sing your trainer's praises. You look so toned, hunty. Thank you. I saw those arms in your little workout vid.

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31.937 - 35.218 Michael Cuby

I know. Listen, I'm like, I need a texter. I wanted to post it on TikTok.

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Chapter 2: How has Hunter's fitness journey progressed?

35.658 - 55.565 Peyton Dix

You should. I should. A little like, from then to now kind of thing. Because, you know, nothing worse than a skinny bitch. Let me tell you that. Shut up. Shut up. What are you talking about? The growth that I've seen from Hunter Yvonne Harris is phenomenal. It was giving butter and noodles and no thought. I said, run down the block, girl. Just make it to the end and let's see what happens.

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55.585 - 63.807 Peyton Dix

But she is lifting her weight. She is doing her squats. I saw that ass sitting too. Don't think I wasn't looking. Yes. Great work.

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63.967 - 83.515 Michael Cuby

I feel like I'm... I feel like I just got divorced. That's how I feel. That's how good I feel. I feel like I just- Just lost a husband. I feel like, wow. Wow. I know. Andrew's listening to this like, uh, bitch. But you are in your J-Lo era. I am in my J-Lo era. Like, you won't catch her slipping.

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83.555 - 83.995 Peyton Dix

Never.

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84.035 - 105.821 Michael Cuby

Like, marriage in shambles, career in shambles, tour canceled. But still, she looks great. And we'll get back to that. I woke up on, I think it was Tuesday morning, with, like, an unsettled spirit. Uh-oh. And I was like, what's going on? Something's happening. I open my phone. I look at Instagram. And someone's like, babe, wake up. They're talking about you on The Tonight Show. I said, what?

105.921 - 122.298 Michael Cuby

I said, Jimmy Fallon, where? Where? And listen, I take back everything I said about Jimmy Fallon at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade at 8.30 in the morning in the pouring rain wearing sunglasses. So do with that information what you will. Look at the data points and think about why you would have to wear sunglasses. Look at the data points.

122.398 - 124.9 Peyton Dix

Okay, industry. Come on, succession.

124.921 - 146.96 Michael Cuby

Yeah. Amy Adams was on talking about Night Bitch, her new movie, and he was like, oh, there's an online petition, one tweet, from a lot of fans, me, saying that you should play Tree Pain in a biopic. Would you be down? And she was like, yes. And in the industry, we call that talent attached. We have a star attached. So let me just open up Final Draft. But I, okay, what was that girl's name?

147.02 - 147.701 Michael Cuby

Lily Singed.

Chapter 3: What is the Sofia Richie dance trend?

678.856 - 682.298 Peyton Dix

Unfortunately, that side of America is really beating our asses right now.

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682.518 - 698.75 Michael Cuby

But I think there is something – okay, I was at a dinner a couple months ago with a woman who, like, works in, like, fashion and beauty, like, PR. And she was like, Sophia Richie is, like, the it girl. Every brand wants to work with her. Every brand is, like, she can move product. Like, she is exactly the kind of, like, quiet luxury that works.

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698.79 - 705.615 Michael Cuby

Like, she's not – she's, like, a nepo baby, obviously, but doesn't try to do anything. It's not like I'm, like, ugh. It's so – I don't want to listen to any more Gracie Abrams.

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705.655 - 723.67 Peyton Dix

It's palatable. You really come with my sister every time. I was like, stop. Get behind me, Gracie. I'm going to regret that one day. Something about Sophia Richie is just so, in the same way that it works for Hailey Bieber, palatable. Like she's just so easy. She's not controversial. She's racy in the way that's like elementary school racy.

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723.73 - 745.925 Peyton Dix

Like it's always like PG, maybe 13 if you're feeling crazy. Like she gets three F-bombs a year. Like that's how it is. And like it works so well for her. I understand that. But it's also, it's upsetting me and my homegirl. Because damn, we can't get a controversial biracial. God. Nicole Richie worked for her status. I assume you watched Simple Life. Yeah. Okay. Not just Simple Life though.

745.965 - 765.18 Peyton Dix

Did you watch her show on like AOL? That was... Was the Quibi show? No. It was pre-Quibi. I think it was like on AOL. And it was so funny. It was like a little like into Nicole Richie's life and her little friends. And it was hilarious. Interesting. Like she's like someone I just, you know what I hate? I hate feeling neutral about somebody. I hate being like, okay.

765.56 - 770.543 Peyton Dix

It's almost worse than being like, oh, I hate her. I would much rather hate a bitch. I would much rather be hating.

770.563 - 773.865 Michael Cuby

I would feel nothing over her. Feels like very mad man. I don't think about you at all.

774.065 - 779.908 Peyton Dix

And that's what... You're so annoying. That's what shocked me. Do you remember her wedding, Sofia Richie's wedding?

Chapter 4: How does Sofia Richie fit into the current pop culture landscape?

806.938 - 810.279 Peyton Dix

Oh, my God. I forgot. That was her, right? Like, really crazy.

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810.299 - 812.34 Michael Cuby

Like, oh, my goodness. Disturbing.

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812.52 - 824.684 Peyton Dix

Let's, for the record, Sofia Richie is 26 now. Mm-hmm. Which I don't even believe in people under the age of 27. But she's 26 now, which means I think she was, like, 22 or something. Like, she was so young to be that old man.

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824.704 - 838.431 Michael Cuby

Like, really, like, ugh. And it's all on him. It's not on her. Absolutely. That's all. All his fault. Her brain was developing. Leave her alone. The only person under the age of 27 I trust is bald and out. How old is she? I think she's 25.

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838.531 - 857.562 Peyton Dix

A lot of people are coming out as being under 30 these days and I don't like it. Ludwig? I don't like to look in someone... Ludwig is under... Ludwig, because he was just on 430 Under 30 and I'm naming it. And I saw him that day and I said, bitch, you're 28. How old is he? 28. Wow. I hate being lied to. Wow. But at least not 27 or 26. Oh, Lord have mercy. Thank God. I forgot.

857.602 - 869.668 Peyton Dix

Well, what was the rest of her troubled past? That was it. Oh, you're joking. Nicole Richie had like 10 drug problems. I know. I'm kidding. Don't piss me off. I'm kidding. I just literally threw my little no card. No, I'm sorry.

869.688 - 878.973 Michael Cuby

Dating Scott Disick is like enough turmoil for a lifetime. Honestly, the only person who's worse is Jonathan Chabon. Is that his name? Oh, I can't.

878.993 - 902.063 Peyton Dix

The food god guy? Yeah, not dealing with that. Not dealing with that. I guess what's troubling to me is like, I kind of thought we were like making this migration away from quiet luxury or like this like soft life girl, which really just had like equated to being like, white and boring, actually. And I felt like there was a move towards the chapel roans of the world or the loud white bitches.

902.343 - 921.314 Peyton Dix

And now I'm like, oh, we haven't escaped that at all. Is this a prison and are we all stuck in it? Because why are we thinking that this is a dance? And I get maybe the appeal of Sofia for... someone that like Pinterest their personality, you know what I mean? Like how to be interesting, like looks up Pinterest, looks up like outfits to wear to the movies.

Chapter 5: What are the highlights and lowlights of 2024?

1478.877 - 1487.501 Unknown

Hater. I feel like 2024 has been a mess, kind of, from jump. There have been some moments, but overall, throw it away.

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1487.741 - 1505.553 Peyton Dix

Throw it away. Down. That's fair. That's fair. And before we get into kind of like a deep dive of this year and how hellish it really was, I think we kind of have to start off with Little Miss Spotify Wrapped. I was not called out. I was called in. All right. I think we'd be brave. Yeah. I think we'd be brave. I think we'd round robin it and say, who are your... You don't have to name them all.

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1505.653 - 1510.557 Peyton Dix

I think it's a safe space to say just some. What artists were in your top? Top five? Top five.

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1510.897 - 1515.561 Michael Cuby

Beyonce, Gisele Knowles, Carter. Heard of her. Well, Beyonce, Gisele Knowles, Charli XCX.

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1516.642 - 1517.243 Unknown

Let us pray.

1518.462 - 1524.466 Peyton Dix

No, Michael and I both looked at the camera and got really silent and like fell, like crumpled a little bit. But continue. Taylor Swift.

1525.206 - 1535.113 Michael Cuby

I was shocked. It's kind of giving pay off. But listen, I do love reputation. What can I say? Stereophonic. Stereophonic. Oh, wait, wait. I love me some stereophonic.

1536.234 - 1537.175 Peyton Dix

To the east of Eden.

1537.476 - 1538.737 Michael Cuby

Jesus Christ. In your arms.

Chapter 6: Who topped the Spotify Wrapped lists for the hosts?

1553.713 - 1553.893 Michael Cuby

Oh!

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1553.953 - 1555.954 Unknown

So I had... We didn't do our music.

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1555.974 - 1559.235 Michael Cuby

Okay, listen, your voice does not matter. I'm so sorry. Your opinion does not count.

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1559.255 - 1573.159 Unknown

So I had Apple Music replay, not Spotify wrapped, but I did. I am a gay man, so my most played artist of the year was CharlieXCX. I heard. Naturally. But there were some men, McGee, who I feel like you... Love, you put me on.

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1573.179 - 1575.24 Peyton Dix

Yes, yes. Love him. That lesbian woman.

1575.28 - 1597.764 Unknown

Right, I was like, he's basically gay. I was like... You know, like, that's like... There's no hope. Love him. I think kind of the most crazy thing was, like, not in my top five, but in my top ten, I had both Idina Menzel and Kristen Chenoweth because of the fact that after I saw Wicked the first time, before the movie soundtrack came out, I spent...

1598.405 - 1608.072 Unknown

two weeks just listening to the old soundtrack. And apparently those two weeks were enough for the entire year to end up. Which I was like, wow, not beating the musical theater gay allegation.

1609.193 - 1613.797 Peyton Dix

Hunter's nodding in a way that's like, faggot. I mean, queen. No, I'm not. No, I'm not.

1613.897 - 1617.26 Unknown

I can feel the homophobia being pressed onto me.

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