Khloé Kardashian and NYT bestselling author Mel Robbins dive into resilience and resetting your mind. Khloé reflects on her past, while Mel shares powerful tools for making life-changing shifts.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: What is the key to changing your life?
I believe you are one decision away from a different life.
But why do you think that's so hard for people to understand? Why are we giving the worst to the people that we love the most?
I know for a fact that it was her who sold this to the media. You can always leave any relationship, any dining room table, any text chain. You're not stuck. That's a lie you tell yourself. I hope you know how many lives you've changed.
Chapter 2: Why is it hard for people to change?
Oh, no. You can, too. this is more than a show it's a window into my world and the stories that make it meaningful welcome to chloe in wonderland number one so honored and thankful that you agreed to do this podcast with me i've seen videos and interviews of you from years and years ago.
And so the years that you have been this person and yes, there's been growth and evolution, but you've never lost sight of who you are authentically. And that I'm so in love with.
Well, I think I have lost sight of who I am. And For most of my life, I really struggled. I mean, whether it was crippling anxiety or having ADHD and not knowing or dyslexia and not knowing. And so it wasn't until I hit my 40s and I got myself into a situation, and we all find ourselves in these situations in life where the life that you thought you were going to have
is not the one that you're in. And for me, what that meant is my husband and I found ourselves $800,000 in debt, three kids under the age of 10, friends and family had invested in the business. And I had never had a vision for my life of being an alcoholic. or getting divorced or not being able to get out of bed.
I mean, Chloe, it got to the point where I would I was the kind of person that would literally lay in bed and hit the snooze button four or five times a morning. And I was hung over and I would lay in that bed and I would stare at the ceiling and I would think about the problems and I would think about how much I hated my husband. and how ashamed I was at where we are in life.
And my kids would be standing next to the bed. And they were the reason why I would finally get up. And then of course, when I got up, oh my gosh, it wasn't like I was some like, hmm, kind of person. I'm like, ah, screaming at them. And so they start their mornings like this. And how can you expect your kids to have a good day at school if they start with you screaming at them? And
Yeah.
And for me, that kind of defining moment in my life came on a Tuesday morning in February in 2008. Wow. And I woke up like I had for six months in a row. And the anxiety was pinning me to the bed like a gravity blanket. And, you know... I knew I needed to get up. I knew I needed to look for a job. I knew I needed to ask for help. I knew I needed to tell my friends what was going on.
But have you ever been in a situation in your life where you know what you need to do, but you just can't make yourself do it?
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Chapter 3: How can past experiences shape our mindset?
And so there were two things that have fundamentally changed my life. The first one is that there is a skill in life, Chloe, that absolutely any human being can learn and they need to learn it. And the skill is very simple. You need to know how to push yourself to take the small, annoying, frustrating, boring actions, no matter how you feel.
100%.
One decision. Now, one decision does not change everything overnight. One decision turns the first domino in an entirely new direction, and you tip it. And one decision actually turns your life on an entirely new trajectory. And for me, the decision that truly changed my life was deciding to get up on a Tuesday morning when I didn't feel like it.
And all I did was count backwards, five, four, three, two, one, the same way that NASA launches a rocket ship, because I figured if I'm laying here in bed, consumed with anxiety, Maybe if I launch myself out of bed, Chloe, if I launch myself, maybe if I move fast enough, I won't be in this bed. When the depression, the overwhelm, and the anxiety strikes. And by God, it worked.
Yeah.
The counting, the reason why it works is because counting backwards, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, it interrupts all the negativity that is programmed into your mind from your past, from what other people have said, from all the mistakes that you've made, from the anxiety, the worry, the procrastination, all that stuff, the people that have broken your trust. That's all right here. And it is real.
But you still get to choose. Right. And when you start counting backwards, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, you move from here to here. And this is the part of the brain right behind your forehead that actually helps you take control of what you do next. It helps you learn new behavior. And as you count backwards, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, now we're leveraging physics. This is so cool.
All I have to do is count backwards and now it's like neuroscience and physics. I didn't know any of this at the time, by the way. I just knew I created some little trick that was given to me by God. And now all of a sudden I'm 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, picking up the phone and asking for help. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, I'm going out the door and going for a walk.
5, 4, 3, 2, 1, I'm putting down the phone and I'm picking up a book or listening to a podcast that might help me. And slowly but surely, one five-second decision at a time, I learned this skill that I want everybody on the planet to know. Mm-hmm.
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