What explains the darkest corners of human behavior? In this episode, Vanessa and Natalie talk with psychologist Dr. Kate Balestrieri about the “dark triad”—psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism—and how these traits shape some of the infamous figures we’ve covered, from convicted cult leaders to alleged abusers. They explore the psychology behind these personalities, why they captivate us, and what it says about our culture. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team, plus access behind the scenes content, join the community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hey everyone, it's Lily Houston Smith here. I just wanted to come on for a moment to say that we recorded the last episode before Justin Baldoni, that's the star and director of It Ends With Us, who's in a big fight with Blake Lively, filed a lawsuit against Blake. In this new suit, he does make it seem like Blake was actively messing with him more than we knew before.
Like for example, he says that Ryan Reynolds, her husband, made fun of him in the Deadpool movie by creating a character who was a tacky male feminist. He also says that Blake used her friend Taylor Swift to try to pressure him into making changes to the script. Which, yeah, if Taylor Swift said to make some changes to a script, I'd do it too. She certainly knows successful writing.
All this is to say, it's possible there is a lot more under the hood to be revealed in the story of Blake versus Justin. But here at Infamous, we still didn't see anything in Justin's new lawsuit that made us think he didn't also run a smear campaign against Blake Lively. Which is not cool at all, no matter what she did to him. All right, that's it for the update.
We have a pretty dark episode planned for this week, and I hope you stick with us. You might find it meaningful. We'll play that for you now.
From Sony Music Entertainment and Campside Media, this is Infamous. I'm Natalie Robamed. So if you're a regular listener, you've probably noticed that we tend to dive into a lot of scandals. Scandals that often involve some less than savory characters who do some less than savory things. And one thing Vanessa and I are always wondering is why? Why do people do the terrible things they do?
And perhaps a little more reflectively, why are we drawn to these stories, both as listeners and as journalists? To try and answer those questions, this episode, we're talking to a psychologist about some of the mental underpinnings of the sorts of people we cover, whether it's Diddy and his alleged crimes or Keith Raniere and his NXIVM sex cult.
By the way, we had some technical difficulties during our conversation, so you're not going to hear very much of Vanessa. Sorry about that. And don't worry, she'll be back. All right, let's get to the interview. We're here with Dr. Kate Balistrieri, a licensed psychologist and certified sex therapist who focuses on providing counseling services to help people build resilience and recovery.
Kate has lots of very smart thoughts on psychopathy and something called the dark triad, a term we're going to get into, which probably covers a lot of the people we talk about. Keen, infamous listeners will remember we did an episode on Diddy and one of his former long-term loves and That is a story we're going to continue to cover.
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