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No, I think it's completely fair. When you look at the data, it very clearly shows the majority of all different kinds of crimes are perpetrated by men. So that's indisputable. And The reason that we see such a disproportionate amount of men committing these crimes is because the culture of masculinity and the way men are socialized is around a dominator culture or a culture of domination.

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And of course, men are socialized to varying degrees with this kind of mentality. So hashtag not all men. But the reality is that the majority of men are exposed to some kind of dominator culture in the way they're socialized as men. So to understand how they construct their identities is really to understand how they see themselves

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and sort of this hierarchy of masculinity and power, competition, power, dominance. These are the ways that men often are dehumanized and objectified against each other. And that dehumanization trickles down and gets displaced on any group that they feel is there to prop them up. So for a lot of men, that means women. For some men, it means men who have less established power and dominance.

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For some men, it means both. For some men, it means children. For some men, it means other things or all of the above. It's important to sort of look at how men are conditioned to constantly have to prove their dominance, prove their masculinity. And in academic circles, we call this precarious masculinity because why is the masculinity so precarious? Where does it go?

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Why does it need to be proven all the time over and over again? But it does because masculinity is defined by really being an opposite of femininity.

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Yeah, it's not. And the dynamics that you've just described are very common in sex trafficking case. They're either entrapment strategies or enmeshment strategies. These are all different kinds of grooming strategies where... the perpetrators of sex trafficking demonstrate or create a dependence on them, a job or money or a roof over someone's head or physical safety or protection.

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And enmeshment strategy is a little different. It looks like convincing the victim that there's a special relationship here. So we see this a lot in boyfriend grooming strategies where the pimp or the trafficker convinces the victim, hey, I love you. We're special. Nobody gets our bond. And I'm going to need you to do this for me to prove it.

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I mean, it's such a great question. And I think the answer is probably incredibly layered and maybe bigger than what we can go into sufficiently in this conversation. But the few things that come to mind for me straight away is that we have been living in a Part of why that's relevant here is because female sexuality has become commoditized and controlled.

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And when I hear the story that you just shared about this particular cult leader, I immediately think, wow, that just fits so well into the fantasy of penile power and omnipotence. And It goes along very nicely with really enforcing this idea of sexual devotion.

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And when you have a cult leader at the top who's saying, I can give you that promise if you save yourself for me or bring yourself to me, there's a lot of collusion and fantasy here about what it means to uphold this illusion of omnipotence.

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Sure. You know, I want to be really clear. Someone having a history of abuse does not necessarily make them more likely to become a predator of any kind. And people who do engage in sexual predation, I don't know what the exact statistics are, but there's a pretty nice split between people who have endured some kind of trauma growing up and those who haven't.

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So there are many more people out in the world who have experienced trauma, especially sexual trauma, and never go on to engage in sexual violence. But part of what happens when those people who have endured abuse do move into the role of the perpetrator is it's a psychological protection. It's called an identification with the aggressor.

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So to move out of the psychological headspace of feeling like a victim, they engage in behavior that emulates that of the perpetrator who offended against them.

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And those mental gymnastics give them some sort of protection around feeling weak or small or out of control or powerless, even if they're doing something that they may not want to do or goes against their value system or hurts other people.

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identify with the aggressor perhaps i don't know i'm just curious what you think about that there's something there i think it's important that we recognize that in the united states three women each day are murdered by someone they know so either a romantic partner or former romantic partner or family member those statistics are pretty staggering and that's not even taking into consideration the intimate partner violence that happens domestic violence and

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other kinds of sexual assault and harassment that women face on a regular basis. So I think that the obsession with true crime has multiple roots. I think for some women, it gives them a bit of a safeguard to understand more about criminal behavior, which helps them psychologically and maybe even tactically prepare for what they might run into in the world.

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I think it also helps women feel less alone when they see other people, especially stories where there have been survivors who have made it out. I think there is a bit of empowerment that can come from that. I think there also could be some psychological empowerment of like watching it, feeling scared, but also being in control of that fear and knowing you can turn off the TV.

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And interestingly, in sort of a little sidebar, I will say that forced sex fantasies or consensual non-consent fantasies are the number one fantasy amongst women. And I think the ideology for that is the same, right? It gives women a way to be in control of what is a very out of control experience of their everyday lives.

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Because in our fantasies, we can always stop thinking about it and we have total control. The risk is minimal. I want to be really clear. That does not mean women want to be raped or want to be sexually abused.

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I hear you, but I think the other thing is the reality that, especially with sexual violence, it's so unlikely that perpetrators are going to actually see justice for the crimes that they have committed. I think the statistic is only about seven out of every 1,000 rapes is actually prosecuted. So that's a staggeringly low statistic.

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So I also think that the function of true crime is to provide validation for people who know that this stuff is going on. I don't know a woman who hasn't experienced some kind of sexual harassment or aggression in her life. So it's happening all the time. It's not in just the dark shadows. But I used to have a podcast called Without Consent, and it was about deconstructing sexual violence. And

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When I tell you it tanked, it tanked. And the feedback that we got from our producers was so spot on. She said, everyone wants to learn about sexual violence, but the only thing more taboo than sexual violence is talking about it. And when we really stop and understand why sexual violence exists,

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we have to take a look at our culture as a whole and the way that all of these systems of power infiltrate our culture and perpetuate sexual violence because it's not just these few monster people over in the dark corners doing these things. It's literally your neighbor. It's literally the person who... makes pizza down the street, it's the grocery store clerk, it's your gas station attendant.

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I mean, if the case in France recently taught us anything, Giselle Pellicot, whose husband drugged her, and facilitated something like 70 to 90 rapes while she was drugged and unconscious. If that case tells us anything, it's how many perpetrators there are in a small area who are willing to do these things if they think they won't get caught.

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And these were everyday people in the community who had families, who had kids, and that is the reality of perpetrators. So I think that true crime podcasts and shows also validate what is often an experience that is gaslit for many victims.

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I mean, that's the thing with folks who embody the dark triad, you often don't know until it is too late, because they're so good at convincing you. Otherwise, they're so good at showing you that they're safe. So I wish I could give some hard and fast tips and tricks for how to spot a predator.

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But I think the reality is that setting people up for victim blaming, and it's setting folks up for feeling responsible for the things that happen to them. And I don't want to do that. What I'll say is that if you are someone who is feeling something in your gut, it's totally okay to pump the brakes and get really curious and really pay attention to that voice that's giving you pause.

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You may not know why you're feeling that way and you may not be able to explain it. You may even feel like you're out of your mind for feeling the way you feel. But I really believe that when you get that feeling that something is off, it's a good opportunity to just slow down and start paying more attention to your body. Now, that might lead you to do more investigation.

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It might lead you to do a background check. It might lead you to ask mutual friends, if you have any, about their experiences with this person. It doesn't make you responsible for what may or may not happen to you, but you do have a right to be curious and you do have a right to put up boundaries if you are starting to feel uncomfortable in a dynamic.

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Well, and something to remember is that really, really powerful people often don't get off on going after the weakest link that they can find. Now, there certainly are some perpetrators who will go after the most vulnerable folks.

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But when we're talking about people like who you just described, the folks who are more Machiavellian, the folks who are cult leaders, the folks who are already very powerful, they're They want to get the get on people who also are powerful and intelligent and who have something to lose. That's their white whale. It's easy for them to go guppy fishing and they're not interested in guppies.

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They can cast a net and do that in their sleep. It's not a challenge. It doesn't give them the same assurance of their power. So I work with so many survivors of narcissistic abuse and sexual violence, even sex trafficking. And you're right. It's a question all the time. How could I have been so stupid?

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Of course. Thank you so much for having me on your show today. My introduction into the world of psychology was actually working in the forensic space. So I started as a forensic psychologist doing a lot of evaluations and treatment. An expert witness testimony for folks who had been convicted of all different kinds of criminal behavior, but particularly sex crimes.

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The first thing that I say is let's reframe that because in fact, I think you were quite smart and that's why you were targeted. And so hopefully if anyone listening has had an experience like that, Try to see yourself through this other lens. You were sought out because your power gave them power, most likely.

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Probably my website is the best place, modernintimacy.com, or you can find me on YouTube at Modern Intimacy, Instagram and TikTok at Dr. Kate Balistrieri, my podcast, Get Naked with Dr. Kate, or I have a book coming out in February called What Happened to My Sex Life. And it's a book for anyone who's ever felt disconnected from their desire and wants to know how to get it back. Fantastic.

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And I spent a long time evaluating and treating sex offenders and really understanding the deeply malevolent motivations that compelled their behavior. I've also worked for many years in different correctional settings, understanding non-sexually violent behavior. So a lot of what we're talking about today is where I cut my teeth in this world.

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So the dark triad is not a term that's in our Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, but it is sort of a shorthand that psychologists will use periodically to understand a particularly dark – hence the name – grouping of different personality characteristics and styles, including psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism.

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So when folks have all three of those personality traits and characteristics and profiles, they tend to be pretty dangerous.

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Yeah. So probably the easiest way to understand Machiavellianism is to understand that it is a deeply intelligent and manipulative way of understanding how people operate and getting people to do things that you want them to do without them really understanding that they're being manipulated. So

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People who are not criminals can have these skill sets, but often folks who are pretty adept in the criminal space are really good at reading people. We might think about the Penguin, right? If folks are watching that show, that series, I would say he's astutely Machiavellian.

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There are two paths to, two sort of like generalized paths to somebody developing psychopathy or sociopathy, which are basically understood to be more acute extensions of antisocial personality disorder. And for some folks, that path is rooted in neurological issues, brain development. They were born that way. It's sort of uncontestable. You see those traits when they're younger.

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There isn't really a trauma or an antihero story. They are born that way.

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You know, I'm not going to use the language of what's wrong with someone's brain, but their brains develop differently. And my understanding is that there are differences in some of the key components of brain anatomy that are responsible for emotion and empathy, mentalization. So they're limited in their ability to really understand and understand.

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feel in an embodied way the perspective of others. But here's where Machiavellianism comes in. Often people can understand the motivations of others, but they don't care. And so they understand how people work, what motivates them, how to get them going, how to get them excited about whatever cause they want them to be excited in. And they just really have an absence or deficit in empathy.

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So likely some differences in amygdala and again, other empathy related functions in the brain.

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Yeah, it's a great question. I'm glad you brought that up. So narcissism, any of the personality disorders or personality organizations, these are Personality disorders are known to be consistent characteristics across affective state and context, right? So people are the way they are kind of just in general, right?

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When folks develop personality disorders, it's thought to be an epigenetic experience, meaning that they have a the realities of their environment, nurture the variables of their genetic possibility in certain ways. And narcissism is thought to be one of those characteristics.

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There's some biological component, and then it's very much influenced and expressed based on what folks are exposed to in their lives. And they are often exposed to caretaking situations, family of origin situations where they are very shamed and where they witness maybe a parent who's more narcissistically organized.

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And narcissism historically has been thought to be an organization that protects around or addresses shame. So when people feel tremendous shame, they often develop a fragmented sense of self. And the narcissism, as we understand it in sort of pop culture, this grandiose, cunning, charming personality, this is an adaptation to basically feeling like you are nothing.

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And that kind of narcissism is probably the most well understood because it's so obvious. But there are different kinds of narcissism, there's a more malignant narcissism, which can take on more intentionally

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devious and duplicitous iterations it's not just about hey look at me i'm great and shiny it's more about i'm going to get what i want to get from you and then there are more covert organizations of narcissism where instead of compensating in the opposite direction of shame they really have a hard time getting out of their shame

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and they center themselves in their low self-worth, which still makes them kind of the nexus of people's worlds. It leaves them very egocentric, but it leaves them without some of the maybe seemingly more social elements of what allows other narcissists to be more adaptive in the world.

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Yeah, I'm sure there were primary and secondary gains, right, if somebody is presenting in that way. And I can't speak to a diagnosis. I've not evaluated that person. But look, as human beings, we can get very creative in the ways that we indirectly try to get our needs met. And for a lot of people who grow up with...

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trauma or within an invalidating environment or within a harsh environment where directness was not respected or not tolerated, they adapt in ways that often feel very confusing to other people because that's the way that they knew how to try to get through and get by.

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Yeah, so the psychopath, again, it's useful to sort of think about psychopathy as a more acute and more exacerbated version of an antisocial personality disorder. So the Hare Psychopathy Checklist was developed many years ago by psychologist Robert Hare.

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And one of the things that really stands out to me about psychopathy that I think is so interesting is to look at the ways in which male psychopaths tend to be parasitic. They often will rely on female partners to pay their bills, to cook for them, clean for them. They'll move into their homes and not pay rent. They'll do this with female family members.

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Certainly they'll do it with men too, but there is an interesting pattern, a very recognizable pattern where sexist ideas sort of get enveloped into the exploitation of women in these cases.

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Yeah, I think there's two things that are really interesting when we look at cases like this. And obviously, I'm not speaking about Diddy because I've not evaluated him, nor am I privy to the details of that case. But in all of my work with folks who fit similar profiles of their criminal behavior, I think there's two things for us to look at.

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One, the criminal versatility is really important, right? There's so much going on. This is not someone who sticks to one kind of crime. And what that tells me is that this is someone who wants to get away with a lot, is pretty smart, probably gets bored pretty easily, and is using a lot of their criminal behavior to

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to keep themselves entertained and also to continue to demonstrate the power that they have over not only the victims, but the people who work for them.

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So there are multiple levels of exploitation and that comes with multiple levels of power reassurance and multiple levels of excitement for somebody who does have everything, for somebody who could go out and say, I want to go to the best restaurants. They've probably done that already. It's boring, right?

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At some point, people develop new ways to keep themselves on the edge of what is in their mind a boundary and then to demonstrate over and over again that they have the power to cross those boundaries and get away with it. And the getting away with things is where the emotional and sometimes erotic charge comes in. Absolutely.

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And I was definitely the only person who didn't own anything by the brand. And I remember there was this one lady who had just quit her corporate job to come work at Lululemon because she was so obsessed with the brand and so obsessed with product. And she was wearing head to toe Lululemon and knew everything about it. And she really wanted that job.

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But hilariously, I got it because at the time they were introducing running clothes and I was a runner. And so they wanted to hire someone who could product test the running clothes and like sell them in the store, which I did, which was pretty sweet because then they would pay me to go on runs and stuff. So it was actually pretty great.

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So we would have these workshops and in staff meetings there would be dedicated time to goal setting where you would set your goals for like six months, a year.

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I wanted to be a writer and they helped me set all these goals around writing and most of the people in my store were all aspiring to be on Broadway or musical theater actors and performers and so often their goals revolved around that and even though it's Für einen basic retail job with a high turnover of employees, this was pretty deep personal stuff.

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I'm a novelist now, so I am a writer now. And I guess I should probably thank the goal-setting skills I learned at Lululemon for that.

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Das ist eine Frau namens Kat. Sie arbeitete früher bei einem Lululemon-Store. Und es gibt bei Lululemon diese Kultur von Intensität. Du gehst in deine Workout-Klassen und du trägst die Kleider. Und du setzt deine Ziele und du wirst deine Ziele erreichen. Und ich kann sehen, wie... Es gibt nicht viele lackadaisische, Laissez-faire-Kind-der-Personalität.

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Damals hatte sie gerade die Schule gegründet. Sie war eine ausreichende Schriftstellerin, neu in der Stadt, in Bedrohung von einem Job. Kat wusste nicht, dass die Firma-Kultur und einige der Leute da ein bisschen intensiv wären. So I went to my interview, which looking back on was fully crazy. Like it was a group interview and they sat us down on the floor in a circle.

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I think we've all seen the type of person who gets super into exercise generally because there's darkness lurking and there's anger there. And there is at Lululemon this culture – or there was when I worked there. I don't know what it's like anymore.

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But this culture of intensity, like you're going to your workout classes and you're wearing the clothes and you are setting your goals and you're going to achieve your goals. And I can see how it's not a lot of lackadaisical laissez-faire kind of personalities.

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I worked at Lululemon from the fall of 2016 to the spring of 2017. So it was a kind of short but meaningful six to eight months. I worked at a store called Soho Women's in Soho in New York. It was only women's clothes and men's clothes were sold across the street. But I picked up shifts at stores all over the city during that time. And I was just a part-time educator.

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Educator is the term for just like sales associate, but it's Lululemon, so it can't just be called that. It has to be called educator. Can you describe what the store looks like inside? Yes. So Soho Women's was very, I mean, like a lot of stores in Soho. It was small. It was long and narrow. And it was only women's clothes, which created a very fun vibe.

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And also because it was Soho, I remember it was like all black everything inside. In a lot of other stores, they would put in more colors. But because it was Soho, it was like women here wear black. Something from the way the store looked that is truly funny is that there was this window and it had like a window seat.

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And sometimes they would let slash encourage slash ask one of us to go do yoga in the window. And I barely knew how to do yoga, but it was amazing because you didn't have to talk to anyone, you know, because sometimes in retail, you just can't like you just can't do it. So we would alternate just going in the window and doing like a flow as if it was like Cirque du Soleil or something.

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And it was wild. That's why I feel like I've never seen that. I've never seen people. No, I've never seen anyone at any other store do it. So I don't know if that was just something that went on at our store or what the thought behind it. But people would stop and take pictures of you and stuff. And I would be like, this is – I hope that I never have to see any picture of myself doing this.

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I'm just doing this so that I don't have to talk about sports bras for two minutes.

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Yes. So at my store, it was a lot of tourists because it was in Soho. But also it was just a lot of really chic, thin women who were pretty intense and kind of weren't in there to chat. You know, a lot of them probably had pretty high-powered jobs and were hitting SoulCycle at 5 a.m. and just needed their clothes to do that in. But something that was interesting about Lululemon was –

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Every store had kind of a tailored approach to their clientele based on where they were. On the Upper East Side, they took a personal shopper approach, which we did not do in SoHo. So you just kind of waited by the door and then someone came in and you were their personal shopper for their whole experience, which I did not enjoy. I think for some reason, I think it was called POP.

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And their personal shopper or something was worked in there. But we never did it at SoHo Women's. The thing, the job that I often took at my store and the first job I ever had there was called DOFI, which stands for Director of First Impressions. So that was just being a greeter, but it was called Dopey.

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I absolutely can. So there was this practice there called clearing where the thought behind that was before you start a shift like clear the air and set an intention for your shift or maybe just let something go that's going to bother you and hold you back from being the best possible educator that you could be that day.

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And, you know, I remember one time a coworker of mine had come from a funeral. So she needed to clear that she had been at a funeral and like just let the energy from that go so that she could get out there and, you know, be a good Lululemon employee. And.

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A big part of working there as well, and this was actually really positive for me, was that Lululemon was this company that was very much based around goals and helping you achieve your goals and helping you set your goals. Because the thing about working retail, especially in a city like New York, is that most people who are working there are not wanting to work there long term.

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And Lululemon was very aware of that. So we would have these workshops and in staff meetings, there would be dedicated time to goal setting where you would set your goals for like six months, a year, I think even five and ten years sometimes.

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And it wasn't necessarily that those goals had to be personal, but they were encouraged to be personal and they were encouraging us to be realistic about what we wanted to do. Manifesting out loud, that was a big thing too, which is very cheesy and a strange thing to do at work, but I have actually found to be really helpful.

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Like, it would make us go around. I mean, make sounds severe, but we would go around and read our cards. We would write them on these cards and say our goals out loud because there's allegedly science, and I believe this. I'm sure that they weren't lying about it, hopefully, but around how much more likely you are to achieve your goals if you say them out loud.

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And have people holding you accountable to doing them. And so, you know, I would go around and say, you know, I'm going to write 5000 words this week. And someone would say, I'm going to go to X number of dance classes, which is in service of my goal to get equity by October or whatever. It can feel really serious.

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And I mean, I don't know, because there's something to be said for when you're living your life and things are maybe going on in your life. And then you go into this store and it becomes this almost magnifying glass or microcosmic thing. This one time, my coworkers used to give me so much shit about this.

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Like there was this woman who came into the store and she wanted this, an energy sports bra for her daughter. And her daughter was a size six. This was eight years ago. And I remember these details. And I it was Christmas time and we didn't have it in the store. And I went down to the basement and we didn't we just didn't have it in that size. And it was really easy to order them online.

Infamous

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This was not a big deal. The woman was super nice. And for some reason, when I went to tell her that we didn't have it, I just burst into tears and was crying to this woman was like, we don't have the size. I'm so sorry. And she was like, it's fine. Fine. And I, to this day, don't know why I got so emotional about that. It's just a lot. It's just a lot.

Infamous

Murder at Lululemon | Part 4

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And because they ask you to bring your full self, but also don't. It can create an environment of dissonance, I guess. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does.

Infamous

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No, there were definitely other times. There was definitely more than one breakdown. I didn't kill anyone, but there was more than one breakdown. Okay.

The Lore Lads

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What reasons would you not be able to get in though? I thought you just have to be like, believe in God and it's still the rest of the lodge's decision.

The Lore Lads

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Yes, that the pata was... I think it was the pata was actually penta, meaning five cubits.

The Lore Lads

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Yeah. So, the more we do this job, the less time I spend on the internet, the more I see headlines, the more I realize that too many people only interact on the internet.

The Lore Lads

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As documented within the words of the Bible.

The Lore Lads

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Guys, if you're concerned about whether or not you're spending too much time online, after this show, go sit under a tree.

The Lore Lads

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Yeah. What? If it's near your home, leave a phone inside. Don't go too far without your phone, just in case. Just like, you know, if it's an evening, watch a sunset. Physically touch grass. Yes. You would be amazed at how good it is for the soul, even if you don't believe in souls.

The Lore Lads

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See, I thought it was going to be that the pilot mixed up two very distinct aircraft.

The Lore Lads

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Unless for some reason they're referring to Desert Eagles.

The Lore Lads

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Fast enough to be really difficult to catch with your bare hands.

The Lore Lads

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I feel markedly better after watching a sunset from an open parking lot, purely because around here, at least, that's the place where you can get the most open space and see the sky. Yeah. And that's it.

The Lore Lads

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Exactly. They're so short that there's trees at the top, and there's so many of them that the amount of sky you actually see doesn't really change that much from bottom to top. No.

The Lore Lads

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I say Newfoundland. Newfoundland? Everyone I've heard in vaguely our area calls it Newfoundland.

The Lore Lads

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Yes. Yes, I do, because I'm sure almost every place has trees. Mm-hmm.

The Lore Lads

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Yeah, I can see how this would be frustrating.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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It is possible we just don't have all of the archaeological evidence that may possibly exist.

The Lore Lads

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Um, so theoretically it's probably warmer at this period of time and it most likely has a higher sea level, even just marginal.

The Lore Lads

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Because it was still receding from the previous maximum.

The Lore Lads

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The maximum you're talking about, glacial maximum you're talking about?

The Lore Lads

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So my thought is that it's possible that whatever islands they're talking about were eliminated by glaciers at some point.

The Lore Lads

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I can't remember which river it is, but the one that feeds out from the Great Lakes. St. Lawrence? Yeah. Could it not have been that?

The Lore Lads

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Let me look, let me look, let me look. Well, you might notice a little interesting thing. So scroll up, scroll over to where Newfoundland is. Well, because that's my other thought is that if they went up here, because this is technically Newfoundland.

The Lore Lads

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How good are they considered to be at keeping records of location? Because at this point, I'm starting to doubt their record keeping.

The Lore Lads

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But they didn't really mark distance much.

The Lore Lads

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You know what the other problem is here? Is unless they meticulously mark the weather, the speed of the wind on a given day could vastly... They had oars.

The Lore Lads

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still those ships were fast that that is the one thing about viking long ships yeah they could make the crossing from norway to iceland and i believe three days that's the thing even with oars and sails combined like the wind still has an effect to where it could take it like you could have a range of days so depending on what the conditions were and also the sea conditions because if you if you have higher waves you're traveling a greater distance there's no record of any of that

The Lore Lads

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that's the thing is like if it's high wind, low waves and the wind's going with you and you're paddling versus wind against you, high waves.

The Lore Lads

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Yeah. Anyone who runs logistics for billboards in rural America, you deserve a raise.

The Lore Lads

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What if they went to whatever the hell this is?

The Lore Lads

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No. Yeah. No river flows east. I know. Oh, you know what? They could have messed up. They could have messed up river for Tidal Bay. True. And coming in on the end tide. Yeah. And it was flowing east to west.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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The point is... Because as far as I'm aware, there is no river that runs east to west in the eastern side of North America. Yep. At least none that also connects to the ocean.

The Lore Lads

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All right, yeah, this is... I almost have it pulled up. This is what we are looking at. Yeah. Just weird, weird-shaped island. Yep, just like, to give you context, in the middle of, well, in eastern Quebec, all other geological formations seem relatively normal.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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It's a weird island. Why is it there? It's a weird island, and it's a weird, essentially, moat around the island.

The Lore Lads

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Okay, wait. Are you ready for something weird? Sure. Okay, so what if, hear me out, What if it struck so hard that the crater it created was so deep that it then opened a fissure for volcanic activity and created a volcano, which then filled in the center until the volcanic activity diminished, leaving the depression ring around the outside, but the island in the center.

The Lore Lads

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Was there evidence of them using coal prior to coming to the New World? They would use charcoal. Okay, but they weren't necessarily mining and using... No, but peat was pretty frequently used.

The Lore Lads

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That makes sense, but I'm more thinking of... I don't know to what level beneath the Earth's surface anthracite was.

The Lore Lads

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Yes, but it's also more the fact that it's somewhere between dirt and coal.

The Lore Lads

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Because it's basically just really compressed dirt, but it's also combustible. Which dirt isn't.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Oh, it's almost exclusively plant material, but then most of the top, like, quarter two of topsoil is plant material. Yeah. So I think it's primarily because of the bogs, plant material that has been compressed anaerobically. Mm-hmm. Whereas topsoil frequently gets aerated. So that's how it doesn't, you know, whatever, uh, we're getting into AP environmental science, right?

The Lore Lads

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It's been, I haven't done that since senior year of high school, but I think that's the reason. Yeah. But it's just wild that essentially mud that hasn't seen oxygen in several hundred, if not several thousand years, I don't know what time span it is. It just works. It just works. It just works. If you do the thing and you don't mess it up, it works. Yeah.

The Lore Lads

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Yeah. That's like minimum six to seven grand a year.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Yeah. Well, it should rule out rivers at least.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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The Hurricane tasted like a Hurricane should, although with whiskey instead of rum, because Resurgent does not make rum.

The Lore Lads

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So I saw a clip from Jubilee, one of those Atheist vs. 50 Christian things or whatever.

The Lore Lads

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Understandably so. Well, you mentioned a moment ago about looking forward to being done with this week's videos of research. In terms of being done as well, it is question time. But right before diving into question time, as I pull things up, I wanted to run by you. Going back to the beginning of the show, when we were talking about giants, you had mentioned something about Goliath's

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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heritage and the one thing I very I wasn't able to get to it in the book because I was focused on the conversation here but on internet research very briefly I saw one thing that supposedly he is a descendant of the Rephaim so here isn't that another great one because you know what Rephaim are what are they they're dead what it's a term for spirits who are in the underworld in the afterlife

The Lore Lads

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Yeah, the British guy. I forget his name. I think it's Alex... Something like that. Yeah, Alex O'Connor, I think.

The Lore Lads

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Well, going back to, I don't know if it was Genesis or what we were covering recently on Weird Bible like two episodes ago, but the element that talks about not being allowed to commune with the dead and things like that, necromancy, all that fun stuff, could that somehow be involved?

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Oh, you mean, right, you're saying essentially what they called the world was just that area.

The Lore Lads

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I would love to see a conversation between you two, because everything I've seen from him, he does know his stuff. He cites the Greek and the Hebrew of the original text of different passages from memory. Considering you also do that, I would love to see the discussion and or argument that you two would have.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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You could do normal videos, but if there is a religious segment, we film it, and we put that portion on Weird Bible. Yeah, true. So people who watch the Lore Lodge, if they're interested in the religious element, can go to the Weird Bible. Not a bad plan. Because that way it keeps people who are not interested in the Bible from having to watch it here.

The Lore Lads

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And it provides a space for the people who are interested in it to watch it there. If anybody likes that idea, let me know. Because we're trying to find ways to make all the channels make sense for the algorithm and for viewers. Because we know we are currently four channels on a trench coat.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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And we're trying to minimize adding any further people into the trench coat and try and remove some from the trench coats.

The Lore Lads

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Yes, so that way it's not concerning and people know who they are and can talk with them as they desire. Exactly.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Yes, Archie would do wonders in the trench coat.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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I'm imagining him as in a cowboy duster kind of deal. Archie, want to come here? Come on, buddy.

The Lore Lads

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All right, Gomb for $2 says, first, and also, I got up at 4 a.m. for work. I am eepy bye-bye. I will try, but might sleep. Have you tried setting your videos to not premiere? It might help. Also, he did leave because he needed to sleep, but he said he'll see us at Blobfest.

The Lore Lads

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Oh yeah, we do want to clarify that. It's not live, and even live things you can rewind. Yeah. Everything on YouTube, if you show up late, you can just tag it, bring the scrubber all the way back to the beginning, and watch from there.

The Lore Lads

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And if you also don't want to miss out on the live chat, just bring the scrubber back, play even a premiere at like two times speed or whatever speed you're comfortable listening that's higher than one, and eventually you'll catch up to the live so that way you can keep up with the chat.

The Lore Lads

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Also, Mars the Unicorn says, guys, I think everyone knows that. Go check the comments on our videos because you'd be surprised at how many people don't.

The Lore Lads

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not judging not everybody uses the we listen and we don't judge yeah we not everybody uses the platform as much as others especially us we grew up on it so we know it relatively well um but yeah there are definitely a solid percentage of people out there that don't realize that it might be the older crowd it might be it might be we're just trying to help people enjoy things a little bit more easily yeah essentially

The Lore Lads

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Next is Echo Warrior, who's a new member. Oh, hello. Thank you. There's no way you're new.

The Lore Lads

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Let me know if that's true or if you essentially had to re-become a member.

The Lore Lads

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And let me know if it was an intentional re-become a member or if you somehow got kicked off because I feel like that's a thing that... Hang on. Raise him up a little higher. There you go.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Luna has been... The more she's in the house, the more she's reminding me of Archie. Because there it's at four in the morning. She will come in with the most forlorn meows. This morning, prime example. Like 4.30 in the morning. And the problem is that a cat meowing sounds like a baby crying. And I didn't realize how strong my fatherly instincts were until this cat started inhabiting this house.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Yeah, it's pretty sweet. And they earn their keep with mice and stuff like that. It's great.

The Lore Lads

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Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. It's partnership in a sense.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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And this is why I want to have you two converse.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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But yeah, no, had to give her like 10 minutes of affection. And then she got up into her window and let me sleep again. But it's just, it's a bit to her window. Yeah. Oh, she's got a window that's next to my new desk. Uh, and it's just like, she'll saunter in every now and again, all for Lauren. Just look up at me. I don't be like, you want to, you want to be in your window. Don't you?

The Lore Lads

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That'd be kind of a weird version of like Snoopy and what is it? Woodstock? Woodstock. Yeah. An all canine version of Snoopy and Woodstock. Exactly. Love it. Trains and Stuff, let's go! For $2 says, long live the squonk. Squonk. Squonk. Squonk. Gosh darn it for a Canadian $2 says, the high protein diet account for the height.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Yeah, I read account as, like, social media account.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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It's like... Yeah, the high protein diet could account for the height.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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What age did they get up to? Like bronze, copper, iron? None? No. Okay. I thought they had, or was that just gold?

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Honestly based. No, but I thought they had some level of armor and weaponry that was like bronze or something.

The Lore Lads

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Everything's going to be set up upstairs.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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But we should probably make sure the Wi-Fi is going to be good enough for that.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, brutally aggressive. Yeah, so armor was just kind of probably looked down upon.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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It's one of those weird things because... Didn't they have that, like, if you lost, you died?

The Lore Lads

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We really just kind of skip right over most of South American and Central American history.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Oh, what's up? My name's Aaron. What's up? My name's Kyle. I'm 19 and I don't know how to read.

The Lore Lads

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Yes. also love the profile picture it's from Batman the Animated Series big fan huge fan got a chance to meet him at the NYC Comic Con that was cool oh my god I just realized this is the last time we're going to do the podcast down here as long as the wifi holds up yeah

The Lore Lads

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It's almost as bad as us, and I know Kat's here somewhere and she'll appreciate this, us making all of that wonderful wood paneling and then using it for, I think, a month.

The Lore Lads

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Well, that's the thing, is that we called the show Unhinged. We're keeping up with the design of the show.

The Lore Lads

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I figured you would dive right into Nephilim, but go ahead.

The Lore Lads

Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161

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Fair enough. Anything corporate owned, you're entering a higher level of risk because it is less humane by the nature of running a business on a corporate level.

The Lore Lads

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Daniel Franklin Henry Jr. has been a member for eight months. Thank you. And Gomb is saying to remember to keep the badonks visible for our good old goon down in the south for the calendars, because that's important. Horrible. And that was a tame version of what he said. Oh. And... Was the term badussy used? Close. All right. Close. Yeah.

The Lore Lads

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Elena de Howler, werewolf queen for $4.99 says, after researching for Friday's video, what do each of you think is actually going to be the cases covered? Or going on with the cases covered?

The Lore Lads

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The Giants things. I think we kind of touched on that.

The Lore Lads

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Trains and Stuff for 556, love the specificity, says, this will be my last super because he's going to get lost in the woods looking for something of Bigfoot's. He is going to become the top predator.

The Lore Lads

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uh gum for two dollars and one cent love the specificity says i bring a large box to block blob fest minimum 50 pounds what's in the box i have a feeling you just hit your butt on the table i think you did i have a feeling it's going to be chalky milk dude if it's chalky milk i i will do things to you good things with my mouth

The Lore Lads

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I got all natural peanut butter today. Wow. You really got to mix that stuff up.

The Lore Lads

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OK, fair. All right. Once all that sentence processed, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Anyway, moving on. I am on a tirade to eliminate vegetable oil from my diet. OK. It is amazing how many things on a grocery store shelf.

The Lore Lads

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Yeah, I keep forgetting when different things are. For the last four weeks, I have been asking Kat when Ash Wednesday is. And she's like, the Tuesday after Mardi Gras. And I was like, when's Mardi Gras? It's not my fault I don't look at a calendar that doesn't involve just like the day's work that needs to be done.

The Lore Lads

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No, no, they're fine. They're fine. And like extra virgin olive oil, like anything that's not squeezed.

The Lore Lads

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Yeah, that sounds like a form of harassment.

The Lore Lads

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So I could understand if he was trying to emulate, like, a wine reduction, but in a different way? Maybe?

The Lore Lads

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Yeah, if you're cooking anything inside pan searing, do what you can to get some form of ventilation. No matter what kind of oven or stovetop you have, gas, electric, doesn't matter. It's nice to be able to vent that stuff out.

The Lore Lads

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Yeah, I don't love that. Also, Christian, I'm definitely interested in trying that.

The Lore Lads

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He said, OMG, you would really dig clarified butter. We are 100% processed, oil-free.

The Lore Lads

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Last night, Kat and I... Josh talk? I wish. No, we... So as a housewarming present for me moving in, Kat's mom... So last time we went to go visit Kat's family, Kat's mom made a rotisserie-like beef... Not a brisket, like a roast in a rotisserie.

The Lore Lads

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and i was history it had been a long time since i'd actually seen anything rotisserie other than just grabbing the bag of the chicken and in giant and i was amazed at how well it cooked and how simple it was oh yeah but you didn't have to touch it uh so she got us a rotisserie and we did rotisserie like lemon and herb chicken i think it was uh lemon and what's the rosemary i don't know uh you gotta put a you gotta put a tray of potatoes beneath it

The Lore Lads

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yeah well we put a tray we didn't put the potatoes beneath it we cooked them separately oh dude you gotta you gotta you gotta let the potatoes cook in the drippings i think i think it's a good move but yeah no i i'm gonna start wanting to rotisserie a lot more things because wow yeah that is if you want whatever you're cooking to remain as like juicy as possible and you're not grilling it uh that's the way to go yeah that is yeah wow i i'm excited by that

The Lore Lads

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I like eating meat and having a fantastic way to prepare it with very minimal effort.

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Like... To be fair, I'm at the point in my life where I've been waiting for this since high school. That's fair. Where all of our friends have less and less interest of going out on the weekends.

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It'll make a 2010 Xbox Live lobby sound like PBS.

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Kat just said, I want to play Risk with a sad face.

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Norman definitely took the video. Oh, for sure.

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Yeah. My, my favorite time playing risk was when I made the Mecca tower in Britain. Should, should we, should we live stream a risk game? I think we should. Yeah. For those of you who may or may not know how Risk works, you start off getting a country or location on the map. And then every turn, you get a few men. And there were four of us playing.

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And I was in Britain, and so I had to cross the sea to try and get anything else. And everyone else was really close and had more people. So I just decided to do actually what Britain did best.

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Yes, but here's the thing, is that it got to the point where I had so many people that I couldn't fit them on the British Isles, so I subbed in a dice to represent 50 units. And inevitably, I had a tower of about seven dice stacked on top of one another. And they were so focused on fighting each other that I think only once it got to four or five dice high did they realize what was happening.

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But by then, none of them had enough resources to attack me. And I kept not attacking. So it was just waiting and waiting for me to finally decide to just wipe the map. And then I think it ended with a truce between Sean and I. Maybe.

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Yeah. That's the funny thing is because this was one of the rare times where Sean was being active. And I think it was because like, I think he was turtling to begin. I think someone attacked him early.

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We also need to do another Drunk Folklore. Oh, yeah. And bring back the Candlelight Sessions. I figured that should actually... We could do that as a Patreon-only livestream. That would lead into either Drunk Folklore or something else that we already do. Good God, you want me to get drunk and then... No, no, no.

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My favorite was Wags asking me to play 16 songs and none of them I'd ever heard of before.

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Yeah. There was a song, I tried learning it yesterday because I was like, oh, we should do this more. And what was it? But essentially it was like one of those early 2000s songs that like everyone knows because I'm like, oh, if we just learn a bunch of these, it'll make everybody happy. Since You've Been Gone?

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no um something like that though and i realized the the bridge just not necessary in that song nothing happens there's no lyrics and then it goes into a little solo and then back to the chorus that's just the whole thing is it iris by the goo dolls no but it is on the same playlist and it's like because that like that solo is not necessary like that that bridge is not necessary but it is beautiful

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That's fair. We have more closing time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the bridge is annoying because it's like A-flat, B-flat, F-flat, something else. I was like, I don't want to play this. Totally not Jamo for $11.03. Thank you very much. I appreciate the specificity.

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What? If only parodies were still cool. Yeah. Remember the key of awesome. I do. Good times. Great times. All right. All right. Anyway, the milk flow with for all time for through it. Thy days shall be multiplied and the years of thy shall light shall increase of thy like shall increase. Drink it for it will bestow gifts upon the have inspiring philosophy on.

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I should be able to work with that through Hootsuite.

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Yeah. Alex Black Falk for Canadian $5 says, First time catching a live, well, live. Curious if y'all had heard about the case of Cam McLeod and Brian Schmegelski. That's a McLeod. M-C-L-E-O-D. Yeah, that's McLeod. Cam McLeod.

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I was going to bring it up, but I figured it didn't.

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Well, in America. That sounds an awful lot like load. Oh, good God.

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Yeah. We talk about things like this on a daily basis. And then we go to social events and we tell people what we do for a living. And then we suddenly realized that we're telling an accountant that we were covering like three children being like, yeah, the solder children, just people disappearing at a fire.

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Fair enough. I'm going to let you do that. Okay, we'll switch spots. Anyway, so as you do that, what book is David and Goliath in again?

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Yeah. Or like, you know, the, the one who was thrown off the cliff five and had evidence of, you know, not great things. Yeah. Yeah. The conversations end kind of quickly.

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It helps give a lot of... It could get worse. Like, if your children aren't actively dying, things are kind of okay. For those who may be going through that, I'm sorry to hear that.

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Yeah. The best for me is when something happens and everybody's really surprised and you sit there and you're like, this is entirely within the realm of their character and things they've been doing for years.

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Yeah. That's another thing is like people forget more things aren't happening.

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Yeah. Next from Chimp with a Hand Grenade for $4.99 says, Can't wait to traumatize Mattis when Alex and I unveil the trench coat of Alex's along with the Project Space Roosevelt's. What? Huh? I don't know. I don't know.

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Okay, alright, yeah, I'm alright with this then. Yeah. Alright, I may butcher your name here. Noaiba? Noaiba? N-O-A-I-B-A, Noaiba?

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Yeah, Noaiba, if I'm wrong, let me know. Is that five euros, I believe? First time I catch you on stream, it's 12.15, I believe, here in Spain. Good night, everyone.

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Why do you do that? I was there. I've been there. I still don't understand why you do this. Well, I'm glad you caught us for a moment at midnight. I'm so glad you're here. So glad. Please answer my question. It's so unnecessary. I don't want to have to add two to each number.

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Like, some people do that on their phones, but, like, there are plenty of analog clocks that are still 12.

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I will say... Oh, what was it? Kat, tell me. There was a word. There was a word I spelled on the wordle that... That didn't feel like a real sentence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a word that I spelled on the wordle that apparently was in fact a word, but it's an outdated version of that word.

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Different. More like color with a U. Oh. But it was... I can't remember what word it was, but, like, I'd seen it plenty of places before, like, growing up. Like, I think, like...

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like it was like ease or something like that something like that like similar sounding and I feel like I'd seen it in like old oil cans or something like that and apparently like no one uses it anymore like for the last like you know 50 to 100 years like nobody's used it but it was the thing and I don't know I remember Kat got so upset about it she was like that's not a real word that's wrong and I was like I like that's why I like Scrabble if it's in a dictionary it's a word yeah yeah

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Uh, another interesting name is Diocoletos. Diocoletos. Diocoletos.

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For $2, says, uh, could I hear your interpretation of Isaiah 6016? Hmm! We have a great show this Thursday that is right up this alley.

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You want to read it or you want me to? We got two different versions here.

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So not too different in the RSV. You shall suck the milk of nations, you shall suck the breast of kings, and you shall know that I the Lord am your Savior and your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob. Amen. Do you remember what word it was? I do not. Okay.

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I got to say, I'm surprised you guys don't do this more on weird Bible where you just make us read like unhinged verses, especially in the message. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, what's 60, 16 in the mess? God. Oh no.

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Isaiah 60, 16 in what I believe is the message.

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Hang on. What? I'm trying to find where this actually starts.

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Oh, God, I hate this. Okay, wait, hang on, so... It should be right above here. Oh yeah, here we go, here we go. When you suck the milk of nations and the breasts of royalty, you'll know that I, God, am your savior, your redeemer, champion of Jacob. I'll give you the best, I'll give you only the best, no more hand-me-downs. No more hand-me-downs!

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I mean... I guess. I guess. Anyway, weird Bible on Thursday. We're talking about Elijah.

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totally not jammer for 526 love the specificity says in this time of lent i have given up uh youtube and tiktok this shall be one of my last supers i shall now tell uh that the tartarians are among us oh god are we gonna have to redo the tartaria thing again i just brought this up you did okay so here's the thing i don't know how much more clear i could be

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I want to rewatch these because I feel like there's more stuff we could cover. Oh, there was. Just absolute point for point. There sure was. Anthony Tiff for $5 says, Are you guys ever going to get back to Weird Bible? And by the way, that's cool. You guys are Methodists. I'm Episcopalian personally. Well, I was raised Catholic.

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We're not really good at planning ahead.

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I know you went to a Lutheran church at one point.

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I don't know, man. As long as you don't mind me answering questions without you here. Yeah, come on in. You sure?

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Hi. I existed on the show before I was your girlfriend.

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This is fair. This is fair. There was a solid period of time where she was on the Lore Lounge, which many of you may not know of its existence, and I was never there because there was kind of an inside joke that I thought it was funny that there was someone else on the channel that I had never met. So for a solid, what, like six months maybe? Sure. Incredible.

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They're not like the old mics you're used to.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm used to the karaoke mics at Molly's across the street. Yes.

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All right. So we are getting back to Weird Bible. As I said multiple times, it is this Thursday.

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And yeah, I believe it or not. So this book on top will say my high school, the Episcopal Academy. I may have been have raised Catholic, but I went to an Episcopalian school. So Nice. Zork the Destroyer for Canadian 243 saying Goliath was a Rephaim a fake. We did talk about him being a Rephaim a little earlier, but I'll bring that back up when Mattis is here.

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Chip of the Hand Grenade for $4.99 says, I decided to look up the message translation of David versus Goliath and dear gourd, it was insane. 1 Samuel 17, 32, 50. I bet it was. Bring that back up on Thursday, because I want us to have Isaiah have to go through that. Yes.

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And then Zork the Destroyer saying, Goliath's ancestry is lightly touched on indirectly when David's killing his brothers, also giants. 2 Sam 21 and 1 chapter 2. Normal chat, remind me about that in a moment. Do you have any thoughts on the giants? No. You do watch our videos.

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No, I do watch your videos. So here's the thing is I jumped in to this podcast at entirely the wrong time. Why? Because I have no... I have negligible religious upbringing. Oh, no, no, no. But so it's like you guys are talking about like specific passages in the chats. It's like, oh, no, this was not the geological section of live chats to be like going through currently.

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Just based on the videos you've seen about giants.

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What are your thoughts? Oh, don't ask me this. Don't ask me this because I'm going to be pessimistic.

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Do you think it was kind of, because my description of what that essentially would be is emergent mythology.

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Yeah, I think sometimes people can seem like larger than life and can seem like, you know, like maybe they've got kind of a taller stature, but the way that they carry themselves makes them feel like absolutely giant. And I think it's kind of those like exaggerations that get passed down because that makes a good story.

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As Orson Welles has always said, never ruin a good story with the truth.

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Exactly. So I think I... I hate to say, I hate to be on this podcast and being like, I'm pessimistic.

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Malcolm Mance. All right, get back in the chair. You deserve.

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Is Malcolm Mance an individual or is that a story? He's an individual. What is his background? You'll just have to look him up.

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Okay, got it, got it, got it. Also, did you hear anything about the two Bible verses that were brought up? No, what were they? So, Chimp with a Hand Grenade said that in the message translation of the story of David versus Goliath, it is rather insane. Uh-huh. I said we should bring that up on a weird Bible at some point because it is 1732 through 50, so it's a lot to go through right now.

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And then apparently when David is killing his brothers, it is lightly touched on what Goliath's ancestry is.

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I really think that Christian churches and schools are doing a massive disservice of teaching the childrenized versions of these stories. To adults? Because they never update them for adults. Mm-hmm.

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Christians, pick up the slack here. You are misrepresenting your faith.

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When I do talk about, you do have a minor religious study.

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Every day I begin to understand more your argument about how you're coming around to the understanding of apostolic succession in the Catholic Church.

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I don't care what channel it is. We got to have you and Alex O'Connor have a conversation. I don't want to. Why not? Because then I got to be nice.

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Because I think it would be a really interesting conversation.

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Yeah, most of the people that he talks with are not...

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But the thing is that they are kind of what you were talking about. They are presenting themselves as authorities. Which you shouldn't do.

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And this is also an entirely separate conversation from those who are essentially asserting themselves as an authority when they don't have the relevant or necessary credentials, which is kind of contrary to the idea of Christian humility. Christians need media training. Yeah, and also to read.

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The thing that really gets me is those who claim to be in authority and they quote the Bible or they reference the Bible and they get it wrong, like heavily.

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There's always a way to get him to make that reaction. This is... Now you know how Isaiah feels. Yeah, I know. Um, Kelney official data for nine 99 said just my two cents, but is it possible? It's a number of stories of the random genetically tall people that like happened today. And the stories are then spread like fish stories getting bigger with each retelling.

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I guess it depends on how many times it was whispered down the lane.

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Yeah. Is there a version of the Bible online that provides essentially inline citations external to the Bible of things that have been corroborated from different historical documents?

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Because that would be really interesting.

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James Hirata for 499 says, I think you all mentioned that there's a video on Roswell coming. Yes. You guys have plans to do a more devoted investigation of UFOs down the line. I think he's finally coming around to it. I'll do some. You've always been very anti-alien.

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Oh, I don't disagree, but I think I'm intrigued by your fundamental hesitancy to the idea of them.

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Yeah. The only thing I could think of in terms of Roswell is that it was the galactic equivalent of a lifeboat.

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uh emerald queen for 499 says could goliath be a guy with gigantism like andre the giant that would explain why it was one giant among an army of normal-sized people he would be the largest one ever recorded in a people that were average what height uh anything about the palestines like in that regard

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Um, for, for those that that's, that's me.

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Fair. A7XMShadows19 for $4.99 says, Your favorite Ohioan forklift driver here. I don't stand the slander, even if my mother was called a flatlander when she was a kid. I will say the only place... Is it slander if it's true? The only place flatter is like West Kansas. I've heard Iowa is very flat.

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The wild part about West Kansas to Eastern Colorado is if you drive on the east-west interstate and you're going directly west, it is flat, flat, flat, flat, flat. And then slowly you start to see the tip of a mountain. And then you see the full mountain. And it doesn't change size for like 200 miles. And then all of a sudden you're there. Yep. It's crazy. We're going to be doing that this summer.

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I know. Yeah, we got to get that. At least to Yellowstone. Scheduled, yeah. Only if they have enough rangers. Yeah. Yeah, that'll be interesting.

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Also, I guess they didn't realize what we learned when we were in Denali, that the people who are seasonal are essentially consistent employees. It's just contractually they have to get rehired every year.

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And there are entire towns in this country that rely on those parks as a source of income from tourism. I mean, we've been to multiple.

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All I can say is that maybe something that we're covering this week was a little bit further east than some of the reports have been. And maybe they are the reason.

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Love it. Also, yeah, like if, you know, if we bolstered the parks, maybe we would have found your backpacks.

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Thankfully. Ellen of the Howler Werewolf Queen for $4.99 says, Do we have any maps from the time? And if so, what do they show as Newfoundland or any of the other locations mentioned?

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Oh, fun. EK for $4.99 says, Super off topic, but how important was the donation of Constantine and it being fake? Milk.

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Could they have purposely been given wrong directions, Miss Maury says.

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Wizards Workshop for $5 says, I would like to know where I can get Mattis' cross necklace and Thornberry's cardinal compass necklace. You're going to have to ask this lovely woman over here.

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My recommendation would find a partner who loves you and they may just find a way.

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No, sorry. It makes sense. The Wednesday after Mardi Gras. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said, when's Mardi Gras?

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I don't know. Kat, where'd you find mine? It was on Etsy.

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We're considering selling Archies on Etsy. That's true.

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Yeah, plush, plush. It's behind you. So if anybody would want Archie plushes, let us know. Oh, and Archie's getting up. And they would be created by Cat. Dogs by Cat.

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He's very cuddly. Right? So it's got a Lore Lodge thing, and then it also has an Archie tag. Archie, Lore Lodge.

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They can see the tail wagging just a tad in the bottom. Anyway, yes, so Etsy has everything. Michael Elmore for $5 says, Howdy, was wondering if either of y'all checked out Manifest Destiny from Image Comics. Seems up y'all's alley. I had not. Not seen it.

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Hang on. Asmodeus, I'm reading this now and I'll skip it later. Just Chatter for $2 says, you may not leave now. There are chatters nearby. Oh, God. That's how it feels. Fruitcake for $4.99 says, I read an author who suggested the curse of Ham was his wife had Nephelic ancestry and therefore post-Divulian Nephilim references. You just cannot say the word Diluvian.

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Can you explain exactly what they were talking about briefly?

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Is this... Well, if all of the angels were men... Hang on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hang on. I'm about to make a connection that might make people mad. No. This sounds an awful lot like something that happened in the 20s. Huh? Begins with an E. Eugenics? This sounds like a spiritual version of eugenics.

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They were eating people. They were eating people. I'm going to say that Thursday. Oh, no. He might blow up.

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The hand grenade says, What? Just what I said. Oh, yeah. Yeah, tell me, defend the flood as not being eugenics. Not you, I'm just, to the crowd.

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I will say that is generally an atheist sticking point of like, how could they possibly justify genocides? Which is, again, why I want you to have more conversation with prevalent atheists. That way you can say, historically, that made sense.

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I like challenging people. It's fun. But... Nobody. Chip with a hand grenade said, but the real question is, how can I be blamed on Karl Marx? Karl Marx is responsible for the flood.

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Maybe he is. I mean, he is the challenger, so maybe.

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Eleanor the Howler Werewolf Queen for $9.99 says, treat money for the whole team.

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Cheyenne Tetrault for Canadian $10 says, I already sent something to Aiden's live Friday, but I want to say for both Aiden's, you guys have been an inspiration for me and pushed me to better myself and to pressure becoming an ATC. Aw. Thank you both.

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That's awesome. Great job. Yeah, good for you. Well done. Michael Elmore for $5 says, also any updates on the lodge location? I tuned on Spotify episode 62 and just got engaged and want to get an idea for locations to host by 2028. I think he means like the lodge. Oh, the big one? We used to talk about.

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Yeah. We'll be lucky if we ever do. Yeah. We're working on still being able to afford the one we're in.

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That's that whole, you know, asset theft by... Yeah. Yeah. That's why we like Teddy Roosevelt. Yeah. Because Teddy knew when to say no.

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And he also established the national parks. Teddy. Great man. Great guy.

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Yeah, you know... I'm giving him the pass. Everyone's got flaws. Doesn't mean they're good. Moving on. Chip with a hand grenade for $1.99 says, Gentlemen, we must milk the squonk.

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Uh, Cheyenne Tetrault for Canadian $2 says, also Thornberry Tetrault is Tetro. Like, uh, uh, Like tro, like toe. Tetro.

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Tetro. I don't know. I just watched Master and Commander at 4 o'clock in the morning on Saturday, so I'm very anti-France right now. Bro, I'm always anti-France. I know you are. Eleanor Howler, Werewolf Queen for $4.99 says, Put this towards a lawyer. What those people are doing sounds illegal. Know your rights and keep yourself safe.

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Mason Hakes, a regular chat says Islamic society of Allentown is so close to you guys. You should invite a Sheikh Mohammed El-Shinawi for a talk and expand your perspective. I'd, I'd, I'd pay for that. I'd pay to see that.

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Fair enough. Fair enough. Sean Torres for 1997. Thank you very much. Says, first live I've been able to catch in a long while. Love the show. Hope y'all are doing well. I'd love to hang out if y'all came to Michigan.

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Also, yeah, again, whoever the first one was that sent us the wedding invite, please resend it. Yes, or... We don't know where it ended up.

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Yeah, it's kind of shocking, actually. Cheyenne Tetreault... we'll get there uh says canadian five dollars you guys need to play kingsport festival it's a hp lovecraft game including starting a cult and summoning eldritch gods we already do that for a living though i would i would start a cult in a game in minecraft in that game i would never start a cult in real life though I'll take it for now.

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Kaiser 96 for $20. Thank you very much. Says, a bit late, but have you heard about the Trench Crusade board game? No. Also, have you heard of Orb on the Movements of Earth, anime about heliocentrism?

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Yeah, that's fair. Also, Ellen is giving us $5 for therapy money. Woo! One of these days, I'll actually get the therapy.

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Sybane for one 89 says Mothman festival, September 20th, 21st. You lads, uh, set the date could get down there.

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What is? I don't know. Oh, God. ConfedYank199 says, thoughts on doing IRL lore of D&D races? Ooh. I'm not sure how you do IRL of that. Kind of like what the race is in D&D and then maybe what its influences were, like where it came from, stuff like that. That seems like a very slippery slope. No, I'm thinking more like Dragonborn. Like, you know, like what is the mythology of Dragonborn? Ah, okay.

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I see where you're going. That could be interesting. And like, you know... What are the traits of elvishness and where did elves originate in mythology?

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Yeah, that's fair. WhiteTrashPanda for $2 says, Read 6016 in Hawaiian pidgin?

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i can't i i can't do that right now i can't pigeon yeah uh i i can't do that which one was it 60 16 in which probably isaiah yeah so he said my old roommate had a massage a message a message remixed version uh we always teased him and said he was reading the ghetto bible that's horrible oh no that's terrible oh no aiden what

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No, no, that's the thing. You can't read this and not sound racist. Literally, yeah. You can't. Can I see it? Yeah, don't read it. We can read it off.

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I'm glad you didn't do a Jamaican accent for it. Well, it's Hawaiian, so that would have been extra bad. Exactly.

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Asmodeus for $10 says, Hey guys, hope you're doing good. I missed the first half, so I'm going to rewind, but just wanted to ask if you've gotten any updates about the tablet that was found on Melt-E-Ball. That was ages ago.

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Also, we're almost done. Okay, thank you. HND223 for $10 says, we'll be sending info soon if you guys and my fellow PsyOps care to extend your YouTuber wedding crashing career this October on the other side of PA. Depends. I have a wedding in October, so it depends. So it very much depends on the wedding. But my cousin's getting married. It'll be fun. We're getting a new family.

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The biggest issue is going to be the travel expenses. Yeah. Otherwise. Mark Nichols for $5.01, love the specificity, says, I would like to have a traditional Catholic theologian on not only to firm up Thornberry's faith in the church, but hopefully he can convert Mattis.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's our goal is we want to do a denomination series of like going to different denominations and talking with leaders to kind of dive into their version of Christianity.

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And then eventually that leading into a denomination or sorry, a roundtable show where we have a number of the members that were part of that previously discussed different passages and how they would apply to the different churches. Anyway, Bert Moran for five dollars says random. I recently found out that Bob Barker is was a member of the same tribe as myself. Hope you guys get some sleep.

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I did not know Bob Barker was Native American. Neither did I. It's kind of wild. CatsWithCannons for $9.99 says, No, shall we go? We shall go all night. I've done that twice. A mistake each time.

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Asmodeus for $2 says, you may not... Oh, yeah. And then last, but certainly not least, Sean Torres for $2 says, yay, I heard my super chat. Now I can go to bed. And we feel the same way. All right. I'm a little hungry and sleepy.

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There's no way we're... Are they expecting to do one tomorrow?

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yeah that's a shame they said they're gonna be here by the afternoon so we'll probably do that in like the evening so they have time to like definitely yeah well that's good because if not i'll work if not i'll work all day tomorrow like into the evening that was my plan and then just we can do three wednesday and three thursday that's a lot it is it sure is

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Yeah, let me double check for you. Unless, oh, did you close it already?

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All right, we'll figure it out when we get here. Yep. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for stopping by the lodge this evening. It was great having you and chatting with you. We will see you on Thursday for Weird Bible. Please feel free to stop by. Yeah. And then again next Monday. For this. And then, yeah, and tune in Friday for Sitaka Lovelock. Yeah.

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And stay tuned for History Unhinged and all those other fun things. All right, see you guys.

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I have, yeah, 1 Samuel 17, at least the top of mine says David kills Goliath, so... Yeah, there we go.