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Disappointment Is the Key to Career Success with Keke Palmer
Wed, 26 Mar 2025
Acclaimed actress Keke Palmer joins Michelle and Craig to answer a listener who asks why she feels so bad after a big career win. Keke reflects on how her planned breakout as a young actress went awry, and the ways that feelings of failure contributed to her career. Michelle, Craig, and Keke talk about how their perspective on meaningful work has changed over the years—and the advice that Michelle’s girls are finally starting to listen to. Have a question you want answered? Write to us at imopod.com.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: How did Keke Palmer's career start with disappointment?
So I remember when I did A Kill and the Bee, everybody kept saying, this movie is going to be a hit. This movie is going to bust it out. You're going to be a star. And it's such an elusive thing because what's a star?
You know what I mean? And how old were you then? I was 11. And they were like, this is huge.
And I'm like, wow, this is huge.
Really, whatever that is.
I guess I'll be Michael Jackson now. You know, it was like huge.
And then the movie came in and did so terrible in the box office. Mm-hmm.
Although that was one of my favorite movies.
And then the funny thing about it is, like, over time, it grew to be my most popular film. And the thing that people most know me for, but I use that as an example in this, is because our life is made up of many moments. It's not made, like, our legacy is not just that one thing we did. It's the many, you know, it's the many things that we did.
And so, like, A Killing to Be was always there for people to come to and remember my work. And it grew over time amongst all the things I did.
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Chapter 2: What are Michelle and Craig's childhood dream jobs?
I'm in control here. This is a perfect time to segue into our question. And our producer, Natalie, is going to read the question and then we're going to react to it.
Natalie. What's up, Nat Nat? Hi, Michelle and Craig. My name is Noelle and I'm 36 years old. My whole career, I've had one dream to write a cookbook. Since college, I've worked single-mindedly towards doing this. I've written for food magazines, become an innovator, house recipe developer. I worked as a cheesemonger.
I've even become a food stylist to help other people realize their own cookbook dreams. In the midst of it all, I've also been scheming up and dreaming my cookbook. Until recently, though, it really felt like it would never happen. And then, bam, I got a book deal. My first cookbook will come out late next year. So you might be wondering, what's the problem? That's my question to you.
After years of working towards one thing, I found myself oddly unhappy now that I've achieved it. I don't feel I've made enough progress in the rest of my life. I've made very little money. I don't have the house I hoped I'd have or the relationship I thought I might. I fear I've given up so much for one thing, and I'm really not sure it feels worth it.
I'm deeply aware of what I don't have, and I feel a bit overwhelmed by the rest of my life. Getting this cookbook to the finish line on time and within budget, trying to earn more money, staying healthy, trying to date. You get the picture. In short, I don't feel encouraged and proud or like I've succeeded as an adult. I feel tired and anxious. Have you ever felt this way?
Do you have any advice on how I can reframe my mindset to focus on the good, embrace what I do have, and move forward with a little more optimism for the future? Maybe even find a little gratitude for what I have accomplished? Any insights would help. Thanks, Noel.
Well, that is a lot. That's heartbreaking. That was heartbreaking. It is. And I'll open it up to you folks.
I think I maybe have had one experience like that, and it's because you attach all these expectations to it. You know what I mean? It's one thing to say, I want to achieve this for me. And then there's another thing to say, I want to achieve something because I'm expecting all of this to come with it.
You know how you
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