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How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett

This Simple Move Makes You 500% Better at Approaching—Science Proves It! (Featuring ‘Date Smarter’ Author Tim Molnar)

Tue, 06 May 2025

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Dating apps feel rigged, and IRL approaches are just plain awkward, right? How are you supposed to find love today? In this episode of “How to Get a Girlfriend,” author Tim Molnar draws from his insightful new book, “Date Smarter,” to offer practical, research-backed dating strategies. A data-driven dating expert, Molnar shares what works both on the apps and in real life—including one surprising study that led to 5X better approaching results for its participants.Highlights of this Episode Include:05:11: The Primacy Effect: Why the First 5 Minutes of a Date are Make or Break09:45: How to Make Sure You Get Date No. 221:07: How to Get 500 Percent (!) Better Approach Results with the “Small Favor” Strategy26:13: 100,000 Swipes, Zero Dates—Why Some Men Fail on the Apps44:16: Why Paid Dating Apps (Not the Free Ones) Give You a Better Shot at Love47:12: How to Instantly Triple Your Number of Hinge Dates54:07: Why Tim’s IRL Approaches Got Him 10 Times More Second Dates than the Apps DidListen now so you can get 500 percent better at approaching!LEARN ABOUT TIM MOLNAR AND GET A COPY OF HIS NEW DATING BOOK, ‘DATE SMARTER’:http://www.TimothyMolnar.comGET ‘DATE SMARTER’ ON AMAZON:https://www.amazon.com/Date-Smarter-Strategic-Navigating-Romance-ebook/dp/B0DP3GJPZ5DO YOU WANT TO ATTRACT YOUR DREAM GIRLFRIEND? BOOK A FREE CALL WITH CONNELL TO LEARN ABOUT 1-1 COACHING:http://www.DatingTransformation.com

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Chapter 1: What is the primacy effect and why does it matter for first dates?

Chapter 2: How can I improve my chances of getting a second date?

177.719 - 200.296 Tim Molnar

And I figured, I'm spending all this time going through these different academic journals. I wonder what's been written on relationship science and if there are different theories that we can co-opt from these different studies of how humans behave to be able to date smarter myself. And in the research field, we often like to say that research is me-search.

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201.477 - 222.427 Tim Molnar

And I think that was really true for where I was at at the time. So I started to kind of work backwards from the goal that I wanted, that life partner. And I realized before that was going to happen, I was going to have at least a girlfriend, maybe several girlfriends. And before that, there were going to be some dates. Before that, I was going to have to find a way to go on dates.

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And I started trying to figure out if I went up and had the confidence to approach someone... What might I say? Are there ways that I can do this with better efficacy, with authenticity? And are there research studies that have been done when guys are going up to women and ask them out, how often they might typically get a yes?

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And are there some type of numbers that I can assign to this to eventually be able to set a goal and say, great, if I set a goal to go on 60 dates, hopefully I can just go on one date and find my right person, but if I don't,

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that's okay, I'll just view this as great, only 59 more, only 58 more, recognizing that there's this sense of rejection along the way, but that that's an inevitable part of getting to this thing that we all know is fundamental for our well-being, for our happiness, for our longevity, which is healthy relationships, and particularly one of those healthy relationships that you're going to have with a life partner.

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So, I went through this journey myself, eventually meeting my person who I've been with for almost five years now. Other friends would begin to ask me about my approach.

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That sort of led into coaching and eventually this book, which Date Smarter is basically a look at how behavior science, how math can help us understand how to date more strategically in a way that feels authentic to us, but also in a way that leverages

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cognitive biases that we might have and like, how do we overcome these biases to be able to do this in a way that, that improves the probability that improves the chances of us finding what it is that we're, that we're really after.

326.353 - 336.097 Connell Barrett

What are some cognitive biases that get in the way of singles, especially men who are trying to get a girlfriend, trying to have success? What are some of these biases?

Chapter 3: What is the 'Small Favor' strategy and how does it work?

401.912 - 422.688 Tim Molnar

And so one of the ways that I would suggest listeners who are hearing this and thinking, gosh, it sounds, you know, I've had that experience before showing up to that date. And I knew within the first couple of minutes, like I didn't make the best impression. is instead of going into this job interview mode, which I think can feel very comfortable and saying, you know, what do you do for work?

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And you know, how many siblings do you have? It's really showing up with, you know, a story or like something to share so that you're almost catching up like you would with a friend. And you're like, Oh gosh, kind of on the way over here, you know, like I was riding a scooter and like, I almost ran over this pigeon and it was kind of crazy. And you know, And this car had to slam on the brakes.

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And all of a sudden, you're sort of disarming the other person. And they're like, oh, we're just catching up as friends. We're not in this evaluative job interview mindset. So you can really seek to overcome that primacy effect when you bring in that nervous energy. And then on the other end of things, to be able to make someone else feel comfortable,

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Because I think one of the things that's easy to forget as we show up to this date, very focused on ourselves, thinking about, gosh, am I going to be good enough? Am I going to be funny enough? Am I tall enough? Am I handsome enough? Whatever insecurities or feelings we might be bringing to this, that the person on the other end of the table is experiencing those same feelings.

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So we can extend grace to them and say, gosh, if they're showing up and falling into this job interview mode, we can just kind of quickly redirect the conversation and say, ah, I love that and I want to dig into that. But first I just need to tell you about this interesting movie that I saw yesterday and it reminded me of this because X, Y, or Z.

Chapter 4: Why do some men struggle to get dates on dating apps?

501.603 - 514.751 Tim Molnar

So I think those are some of the ways that we can learn from behavior science, like on this first date, to be able to overcome this primacy effect and overcome some of these traps that we are hardwired to fall into.

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515.336 - 535.938 Connell Barrett

So if you're following this idea of the law or the rule or guideline of a primacy effect, you want to make sure that you try to hit the ground running on that first date in the first five to 10 minutes. You want to make a good first impression, or at least you want the date to start off reasonably well, and that'll help the rest of the date go better. Is that what I'm hearing?

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536.832 - 557.562 Tim Molnar

Absolutely. And I think just to expound on that a little bit, there's also the concept of the recency effect, which is what has happened most recently is going to shape how we view that experience. So you can have a really nice dinner and you finish it with a dessert and you're like, we finished this on a high note. And there's a very particular reason why that's how a typical meal goes.

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And you look back and said, wow, what a great meal that was. You leave on a high, you have that little sugar rush. And so it's also thinking about how we can carry that through to the end of the date. And this is not saying, like, great, just be perfect the whole way through the date.

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But it is saying there are ways that you can prepare, you can practice, you can run dry runs with your friends if you need to, but say, I'm going to come into this date, and if this isn't something that comes naturally to me, here's a way that I'm going to start things off, and here's a comfortable way that I'm going to end this. Hey, you know, I had a really nice time tonight.

587.701 - 593.965 Tim Molnar

Would love to follow up and get something scheduled for another date if you had a nice time. Just something simple like that.

593.985 - 610.238 Connell Barrett

Do you have any good anecdotes from your dating history? Or maybe there's something from the book, perhaps there's an anecdote or a scene of somebody you know, that shows us here are some ways you can make sure that the first five to 10 minutes of a first date goes well.

611.738 - 617.025 Tim Molnar

Yeah. Well, I certainly have an anecdote of what not to do. So maybe we can learn... Okay, that's good too.

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Maybe we can learn... That can be more viable. Do the opposite of this.

Chapter 5: Are paid dating apps more effective than free ones?

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And we have that innately, but these skills, particularly in this digitized world, aren't things that we were evolved to inherently understand how to do. So, so, so be gentle with yourself if you're feeling

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that and also recognize that you have agency to be able to hone those skills and improve for the next date here's a tip i like to share with my clients for first dates the first five ten minutes of a first date so you can so you can ace the primacy effect get to the venue early earlier 10 15 minutes earlier Make sure you grab a seat for the two of you, you and your date.

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Maybe you're sitting up at the bar. Maybe you're at a restaurant, whatever it might be. And then don't sit there on your phone thinking, oh, my God, how's it going to go? Talk to somebody. Talk to the bartender. Talk to the people next to you. Get into some social momentum. What I found, Tim, and I'd be curious to see if you ever tried this or have seen Have a similar or different viewpoint.

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Chapter 6: How can I triple my chances of getting Hinge dates?

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If you can get into some social momentum before your date walks in, you're already in the social flow. And that's going to help a date. It's going to help you feel a lot more present. And you're already in a social conversational mode so that when your date walks in, not only are you in a social flow, she might actually see you chatting with the couple next to you.

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or holding court with the bartender, and essentially you're out of your head and you're in the present moment, which can help a date start better. What are your thoughts on that? And you're welcome to disagree. That's what I like to do.

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882.558 - 906.417 Tim Molnar

Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm going to agree, because I think it's great advice. This podcast is over. Keep going. No, I think it's wonderful advice. I think it makes a lot of sense and it really is a way to harness that social science principle to be able to say, great, let me warm up my social skills and let me prime myself for this experience that I'm about to have.

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And to your point, you might be able to very naturally segue into, oh yeah, I was just talking to this fun guy at the bar and he was telling me that he was just on this you know, flight to the stratosphere. And he was telling me all about, you know, that, and you know, it's like, and you have this like natural in to the conversation. So I think there's a lot of value from that. Yeah.

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And I also think that it dovetails with some advice that, that I give to my clients, which is, well, When we show up to a date, you're so right to say the energy that you're carrying with you is instrumental in how that experience is going to go. And there are a lot of little tips and tricks that we can do to prepare ourselves for that.

952.271 - 967.843 Tim Molnar

I love that idea of showing up early so that you're not coming from like, gosh, I was weaving through traffic and I couldn't find a parking spot. And now I'm wondering, gosh, am I going to be judged for being late? This isn't who I am, but I just did too much traffic here. And so you're overcorrecting for that.

968.503 - 988.739 Tim Molnar

And instead of coming right out of a work meeting and maybe hopping on a Zoom date, and you're like, great, I'm just going from one work call to the next, you're bringing in that energy of stressful corporate life into this date. And then you're like, yeah, you're having the same conversations about KPIs and whatever other corporate jargon. And you're like, yeah.

Chapter 7: What lessons can we learn from Tim's dating experiences?

988.819 - 1019.24 Connell Barrett

If you want to get friend zoned, say KPIs to your date. Almost guaranteed. Unless KPI stands for kisses per instant. And then that's something different. You struggle with dating, right? Sure, you have a good job and cool friends, but you just aren't sure how to flirt, the apps don't work for you, and sometimes women put you in the friend zone. It's frustrating. Hey, I struggled with dating too.

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As an introvert and a total nerd, I didn't just live in the friend zone, I owned real estate there. But I escaped. Using the dating philosophy of radical authenticity, which I've used to help thousands of men in 17 countries find love. It's what I wrote about in my bestselling book, Dating Sucks But You Don't.

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And radical authenticity is why psychology today called me the best dating coach in America. And now I want to personally help you attract your dream girlfriend. So go to datingtransformation.com and book a free call with me. On our call, I'll tell you how my one-on-one coaching will help you find your dream girlfriend, and you'll be doing it by flirting with confidence and authenticity.

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1061.723 - 1085.018 Connell Barrett

No creepy pickup tricks needed. So go to datingtransformation.com, book a free call today, and let my personalized coaching help you get a great girlfriend. Yeah, exactly. So before I forget, I want to ask you one more question about the primacy effect. Does it go for approaching as well? Sounds like it does with your story about the woman with the wedding ring.

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1085.859 - 1097.048 Connell Barrett

And assuming it does, how do we make sure the first 15, 30 seconds of an approach goes well so we can use the primacy effect to our advantage when out meeting people in real life?

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Yeah, I love that question. So I think, yes, 100% it does. And I'm going to refer to it by the principle of the foot in the door approach. So this is something that I talk a little bit about in the book.

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And it comes from the old door-to-door sales tactics, where if you could ask for a small favor and very literally get a foot in the door, you were much more likely to have success asking for the bigger favor. And so there are a lot of different ways this can play out. And so, you know, you can imagine you're at the dog park and you can just ask for very simple. I think it's a good practice.

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Ask me for very simple things. Hey, you know, is that a Aussie? Or, you know, I love your golden retriever. Like, what's your golden retriever's name? Is your golden retriever friendly? You know, and can I say hi? Just these little things that... When you see people walking up to others on the street and initiating conversations in a non-romantic context, this is a totally normal thing to do.

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It's very disarming. And it's that small favor. That small favor now puts you into this circle of security. And now when you say, hey... I've really enjoyed this banter and like, I just love the energy that I'm picking up on here. I don't mean to be too forward, but would you be up for going for a walk sometime?

Chapter 8: What are some effective strategies for online dating?

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There are a lot of things to consider. But I think I do like to think about it this way, where... If we assume that a dating app premium feature costs maybe $50 or $60, for some of your listeners who are working engineering jobs, it's not unreasonable that they're making that per hour.

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They're saying, you know, is it worth one hour of my time, the equivalent, to be able to increase my chances by 50%? It's a question to ask yourself. I don't want to say that there are unequivocal answers to it, but I think it's worth thinking about that opportunity cost of if I continue to date and how many more dinners do I need to buy?

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How much more time am I spending scrolling through these apps? How many more approaches do I need to prepare myself for? And this is by no means to say that if you do pay, you will for sure have success, but it's saying I think the whole idea behind Date Smarter or Big... core tenant of it is how do we increase the probability of finding success?

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And I just always go back to the fundamental idea of having healthy relationships in our lives is the single biggest contributor to our happiness. And so for me, Investing in those and whatever that looks like always seems worth it from where I sit.

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I mean, for the price of a couple of fancy cocktails each month, you can upgrade to a paid version of a dating app. And assuming you have a pretty good profile, then you're going to be shown to more women and have a better chance of getting more matches and potentially more dates.

2851.448 - 2867.295 Connell Barrett

And another staff from your book that I thought was telling, which is you write that hinge reports that their hinge X users, the premium feature, in other words, go on three times as many dates as people who use the free version of hinge. So it's all backed by data, right?

2868.621 - 2888.936 Tim Molnar

Yeah, and again, I do think that the behavioral science team who's collecting a lot of that data over at Hinge does a really nice job. And so I think if you're hearing that and feeling frustrated and feeling like maybe you've had some messages, some dates, it's a... worthwhile experiment to try. It can be a worthwhile experiment to try and say, great, I'm going to do this for a month.

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I'm going to set a reminder on my calendar for 27 days from now to cancel this or to revisit the idea of whether this has made a difference. But I approach this from a scientific perspective. And in my coaching, I like to do a lot of experimentation as well and say, let's just run a very simple experiment. We'll A-B test this. Last month, you had the freemium version.

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This month, you're going to pay the $50-odd and try the paid subscription. Did you have a different experience? If you did and it was notably better, was it $50-odd better? If so, great. And if not, then revisit that too.

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