How I Invest with David Weisburd
E164: How I Built a Billion Dollar Company by Failing Fast w/Howard Lerman
16 May 2025
Howard Lerman has founded six companies and taken one public—he's a relentless builder with an obsession for speed, innovation, and execution. Currently the Founder and CEO of Roam, Howard is reimagining what the modern workplace looks like by building the “Office of the Future,” where AI agents work alongside humans to accelerate output. In this episode, Howard joined me in How I Invest Podcast to share the frameworks and mental models behind how he leads teams, scales product-market fit, recruits S-tier engineers, and instills an almost maniacal level of urgency and creativity across the organization. We talk about what it means to enter "founder mode," why professional managers may soon be obsolete, and how cultural memes shape everything from product design to company mission. If you’re building, investing in, or simply curious about the future of work and AI-native companies—this episode is a must-listen.
Full Episode
We have engineers that have tremendous egos. In fact, some of the best ones have huge egos and there are huge pains in the asses to work with. And the problem about these guys is that they're a huge pain in the ass and they're right.
Today, I'm very excited to welcome Howard Lerman, founder and former CEO of Yext, which he took from an idea to a public company on the New York Stock Exchange, during which it traded at over a billion dollar valuation on the first day of trading.
Howard shares his unique philosophy on cockroach resilience and startups, how founders can instill speed into their very company DNA, and why figuring out product market fit is the last thing a founder should delegate. Without further ado, here's my conversation with Howard. So Howard, you refer to yourself as a cockroach, which is a term coined by YC founder Paul Graham.
Tell me what it means to be a cockroach in the context of startups.
It means that when you start a company, you have no idea what necessarily it's going to take or not. And you try to make something, you come up with a hypothesis for a problem you want to solve and you make it and it may or may not work. It may or may not be the right problem. You may or may not have the right solution. A cockroach is the in indefeatable, uh, Thank you so much.
In whatever market they see fit. And so some specific examples of that are just like pretty much when you come up with something, being flexible on the details while being stubborn on the vision and being able to sort of change whatever it is you want to change and evolve over time to make sure that you're not kilped.
Tell me in the context of Yext, how you were able to apply this cockroachiness, for lack of a better term, to building that business.
This was in 2006, by the way. So you got to go back 19 years. We were going to create a lead gen site for the health club industry that was modeled after Hotels.com. A little bit like ClassPass, except way before that. The very first thing I did was I realized this was going to be a two-sided marketplace. We were going to need to have a bunch of gyms sign up.
So I emailed the founder of the trade association for health clubs. And his name is Rick Caro. He was like in his 60s at the time. And he agreed to join us and make a lot of introductions to the New York Fitnesses and the Equinoxes and the Crunch Fitnesses of the world to help us build up the network.
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