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How I Invest with David Weisburd

E160: How a SpaceX Rocket Engineer Became a Top Deep Tech VC

02 May 2025

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Jamie Gull is the GP/Founder of Wave Function Ventures, a deep tech seed fund, and an engineer turned investor who previously worked at SpaceX during its early, intense years of scaling. In this episode, Jamie and I discuss the high-responsibility culture at SpaceX, how it shaped Jamie’s approach to company building and investing, and what makes a deep tech founder stand out. We also explore why fast iteration matters more than perfect planning, how techno-economics drive investment decisions, and why deep tech’s reputation for being overly capital-intensive is becoming outdated. Jamie shares firsthand stories from his time working under Elon Musk, his angel investments in companies like Boom Supersonic and K2 Space, and the founding principles behind Wave Function Ventures. If you're interested in the future of deep tech investing, how to identify category-defining founders, or how hardware startups can scale efficiently, this is a must-listen.

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While at SpaceX, you had several one-on-one meetings with Elon. These have been popularized by Marc Andreessen recently. Tell me about these one-on-one meetings and what did you take from lunch? Generally, they were checking in on a system that I was designing to make sure things were on task.

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and was there any problems that were happening that he needed to come in and help fix and that's kind of what he's best known for you know he still retains that chief engineer title i don't know if it's official but that's his role help solve the problem dive in fix it but we're fixing this today or this week and i'm going to sit here until it's done which is extremely effective

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Today, I'm thrilled to welcome Jamie Gull, founding partner of Way Function Ventures, a seed fund investing in deep tech and hard science. Jamie began his career as an engineer at SpaceX in 2010 when the company was still in its early days. Today, we'll dive into Jamie's first-hand experience with SpaceX's responsible engineer culture.

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We'll also share insights from one-on-ones with Elon Musk, lessons learned from building rockets, and how those principles shape Jamie's investment approach as a venture capitalist. Jamie, welcome to the How I Invest podcast. Thanks for having me. Jamie, you were an engineer at SpaceX in 2010, 15 years ago. What was it like working at SpaceX at this time?

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Yeah, in 2010, when I started, things were moving super fast. Falcon 9 had launched a handful of times, but we were basically redesigning the rocket in between launches based on what we learned. All the engineers would sit down after a launch, crunch the data, and immediately go back to work to redesign it for the next time to make it work better or fix any problems.

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I cut my teeth right before that at Scale Composites doing aircraft design. They're very well known for rapid prototyping and putting a lot of responsibility on young engineers. But when I went to SpaceX a couple of years later, it was like that, but it was on steroids.

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The responsibility level and the excellence level was a large jump up and it reflected it in the culture and the pace of what we were working on. SpaceX pioneered this concept of a responsible engineer. What is a responsible engineer and how did that apply to how you went about your day-to-day tasks?

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So a responsible engineer is the person who's responsible for the design, but more importantly, the delivery of a successful system on the rocket. And what that means in practice

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is that if they come to you and say, I want you to design this system, traditionally in aerospace, you would sit down, you'd do the requirements, the CAD, and then you would maybe throw it over to an analyst who would tell you, oh, it's not strong enough here, fix it. And then you throw it over to a pre-production team who would build it, and you're going to pass it off

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