How Dangerous Can AI Get, Dax is Down on DeepSeek, and AI First App Development
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You're sick of it. This is our last episode ever. We're not going to do this podcast anymore. Adam doesn't want to talk to me.
I was just on the news. I just read about a plane crash, and that's not good. Yeah, I saw it last night, and I'm getting on a plane tomorrow, so really bad timing. Oh, man. Yeah. I guess two things collided in the air. I always worry about that. You always think, like... I don't know. Could something just run into the side of us? Cause they didn't know we were here and they didn't look at the radar or whatever. Sonar. I don't know.
Yeah. And the situation, it was kind of crazy. It was right as a plane was landing and it was a Blackhawk helicopter that was like in the air, right over the ground in the airport.
Anyway, that's a damper to start out with. How are you?
I'm good. It's finally kind of warming up again. Like I went outside with no pants on today, which is good, but I'm still wearing, you know,
a long sleeve long sleeve shirt yeah i went for a walk this morning outside at 5 30 in the morning because it was 50 degrees here which is amazing it's been so cold and it should not be 50 before 6 a.m that's unusual going outside when it's 50 degrees is uh it's really dangerous you should have seen how i was dressed probably lighter than you're dressed right now
Well, I'm going to Boston, so I have to like go and pack. Oh, no. All my like just heavy clothes from New York and my like mountaineering jacket. That's funny.
What are you doing in Boston?
Liz's friend is having an engagement party. So we're going for that. And then I'm going to visit AJ while I'm there. Nice. We're going to hang out on Friday.
That's awesome. Yeah. Tell him I said hi. Or if he's a listener. Hi, AJ. I'll just bypass Dax. He's a terrible middleman.
He is a listener. I'm sure he'll hear this.
Yeah.
Not until after we hang out. That's true.
Uh, I've been listening to a lot of stuff. Uh, we don't want to talk about AI more. Do we?
I just listened to talk about whatever you want. Good.
Okay. Whatever. I was just listening to, uh, Oh my God. Uh, just sorry. This reminded me of, uh, this reminded me of this stupid show. Casey and I've been watching on Netflix. called later daters. And it's like these 50 to 60 plus. Yeah, it's like, it's these older people, 50s and 60s dating, like divorcees, widowers, et cetera. And there's this woman who they have like a dating coach. who seems to know stuff about relationships. And she encourages this lady to like open up conversations, like break the ice by talking about like a podcast you just listened to. But like the woman didn't quite understand. She doesn't seem to grasp the idea that you have to like actually talk about the podcast.
And she would just open all her dates with, so I was listening to this podcast with Matthew McConaughey. And that's all she would say, like that line. And like, you have to keep going. Yeah. It just made me think of it, though, when I said, I was listening to this podcast. I just wanted to break the ice with you. Yeah, pause. That's all. I was listening to the podcast. I've been listening to all of Lex's stuff because Prime's going to be on there and I just forgot I liked his podcast. So I was listening to like some of his back catalog and he had Anthropic CEO on was super interesting.
The Anthropic CEO seems solid. Like I don't get a sketchy vibe from him. He was always trying to like, I feel like he's trying to be really practical with how he talks about all this stuff, which is pretty different for most people in this space. So yeah.
Yeah, it was very illuminating. I'm not going to try and regurgitate it because it won't be as illuminating coming out of my mouth. But you should go listen to it. He's clearly very focused on safety. And it's just fun to listen to people building these things, running companies, building these models, talk about... the risks and like the future and how it could play out because i always hear people talk about ai safety and it's like yeah well i don't know like it's all kind of vague and fuzzy but he like talks about the specific categories of threat that they pose and like how to kind of like mitigate those things it's just super interesting what is one example that you remember because i don't know anything about this
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