Stand and Clarence chat with Brandon Jones about narcissism.Brandon is the Executive Director of the Minnesota Association for Children’s Mental Health (MACMH). His background is in Sociology, Community Psychology, and Marriage and Family Therapy. As a psychotherapist, professor, and behavioral health consultant before his leadership at MACMH, Brandon has worked as a school-based mental health counselor and specializes in therapeutic services within communities of color.Listen along as Brandon shares his wealth of knowledge on narcissism.Join the conversation at healthchatterpodcast.comBrought to you in support of Hue-MAN, who is Creating Healthy Communities through Innovative Partnerships.More about their work can be found at http://huemanpartnership.org/
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to Health Chatter. Today's show is on the issue of narcissism, which is an interesting topic that's got some interesting thoughts behind it all. And we'll get to our guest in a second. We've got a wonderful crew, Maddie Levine-Wolf, Aaron Collins, Deandra Howard, and Sheridan Nygaard do all our background research for us and do a wonderful job. Thank you to them.
Matthew Campbell is our production director. manager gets all the shows out to you, the listening audience, and also Sheridan does our marketing as well. So it's a great crew. Thank you to all of you. You're second to none. Clarence Jones is my partner in crime on this podcast. We have a heck of a good time doing it. We chat a lot, not only online with our podcast, but offline too.
So he's a great colleague. Clarence, thanks. You're absolutely wonderful. Human Partnership is our sponsor for our shows. Wonderful community health organization. Check them out at humanpartnership.org. Check us out at healthchatterpodcast.com. I'm Stan Shambling, co-host along with Clarence. And here we go. Today we've got Brandon Jones with us, who is the Executive Director of
of the Minnesota Association of Children's Mental Health. His background is in sociology, community psychology, marriage and family therapy, psychotherapist, professor, and behavioral health consultant prior to his leadership in the Minnesota Association of Children's Mental Health.
He's a wonderful colleague, got wonderful background, and hopefully he can give us some insight into this subject of narcissism. So let's start it out, Brandon. Thanks for being with us. So let's start first by defining for our listening, what is narcissism?
Absolutely. Greetings and thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to our conversation today. Now, narcissism is a very popular mental health diagnosis. A lot of people take usually the negative perspective on narcissism. I try to give it a little bit more love because I understand there are people who really do live with this. and it's not just a character defect that an individual has.
So narcissism refers to the expressive self-love, self-absorption, and a lack of empathy towards others. It's rooted in a person's inflated sense of their own self-importance and a deep need to exercise attention and admiration for oneself. Some of the key features of narcissism are self-focus, The need for admiration, the lack of empathy, the inflated self-image, and fragile self-esteem.
And those last two are usually what get in the way of people who have the diagnosis of narcissism and cause a lot of social conflict within their daily lives.
So give me the positive spin on it then. You said you liked it. So far, it kind of seems negative to me, but go ahead.
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