Healing + Human Potential
Unlock The Secret To Healing Illness with Zach Bush | EP 71
Tue, 14 Jan 2025
What if emotional trauma is the hidden barrier to healing? In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Zach Bush, a renowned physician and thought leader in holistic health, to explore the profound connection between life, death, and healing. We dive deep into the science of the microbiome, the root causes of chronic disease, and how emotional trauma disrupts the body’s ability to heal. Dr. Bush also shares moving insights from his work in hospice care, revealing the most common regrets people face at the end of their lives—and how we can learn from them now. We discuss the impact of disconnection—whether from nature, our bodies, or the awareness of our true Selves—and how this separation fuels anxiety, disease, and burnout. Dr. Bush explains how restoring our connection to the natural world can heal the body, reduce stress, and awaken a deeper sense of purpose. He also unpacks the fascinating relationship between our biology and the soul, highlighting how quantum energy drives both life and transformation. If you’re curious about how the mind, body, and spirit are interconnected, or if you’re looking for practical ways to cultivate health and wholeness, this episode offers invaluable insights. === Join our ICF-Accredited Coach Certification Program, the Institute for Coaching Mastery, designed to help you become a highly skilled + confident coach at the top of your game, in any niche. Whether you’re Brand New wanting to shortcut the learning curve, or you’re Experienced looking to back higher fees with real value, we offer trauma-informed Trainings + Tools, Live Coaching, and a Customizable 6-figure + Beyond Signature Roadmap to take your income + impact to the next level. If you want to create lasting change in your life and feel confident in helping others do the same, while having a thriving business… Click this link to Learn More + Apply Today: https://www.alyssanobriga.com/applynow ✨ === EPISODE TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro 02:26 - Experiences with Hospice Patients 05:43 - The Role of Soul and Biological Identity 09:07 - Cultural Perspectives on Death and Rebirth 18:14 - Regrets and Life Reflections 29:31 - Scientific Perspective on the Soul 47:38 - The Impact of Emotional Trauma 58:38 - The Role of Feelings vs. Emotions 1:10:48 - The Importance of Feeling Everything 1:19:40 - The Critical Mind and the Paradox of Transformation 1:25:06 - Reconnecting with Nature and the Role of Ion in Human Health === GUEST LINKS Instagram: @zachbushmd Website: https://zachbushmd.com/ === Have you watched our previous episode with Anita Moorjani? Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ll4Y0cqScFw ==== Alyssa Nobriga International, LLC - Disclaimer This podcast is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or any other qualified professional. We shall in no event be held liable to any party for any reason arising directly or indirectly for the use or interpretation of the information presented in this video. Copyright 2023, Alyssa Nobriga International, LLC - All rights reserved. === Website: alyssanobriga.com Instagram: @alyssanobriga TikTok - @alyssanobriga Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6b5s2xbA2d3pETSvYBZ9YR Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/healing-human-potential/id1705626495
Chapter 1: What is the connection between emotional trauma and illness?
Emotional trauma seems to be the most profound and disruptive toxicity that we can enter into, and it's the foundation of every organ disease that we know. If you store an emotion in the system, you disrupt the relationship between the energetic and biologic systems. The chemical trauma of an herbicide, pesticide, or an antibiotic.
We can overcome that instantaneously if we get over this psychological bust in our identity that we were abandoned by nature. Take a vial of your blood, send it across town, put it under a microscope, You take an aspirin and all of the platelets in that test tube will instantly respond to the aspirin. And so it doesn't matter where that cell is. It's responding to your collective experience.
Your body is a non-local phenomenon of biology connected and entangled with a soul. Addiction is a symptom of an abandonment disorder. We are most addicted to emotional input. And that's how we build our stories. It's how we build our relationships.
daily social interactions it's how we build our entire sense of self-worth is out of how many emotions did i experience today and when we start to get numbed out we get depressed numbness is the most terrifying thing to the biology because it means we're no longer alive nature has never allowed a wound that she didn't already have a solution for
Chapter 2: How can we learn from hospice care experiences?
Welcome back to the Healing and Human Potential podcast where today we're going to explore profound insights that come with near-death experiences from a doctor. We're also going to talk about the most common regrets people have in the final moments of their life and how those can teach us to live more fully.
Because what if the answers are hidden in the way we care for our bodies, our minds, and our connection to the world around us? Our guest today, Dr. Zach Bush, is a physician specializing in internal medicine, endocrinology, and hospice care.
And he's going to uncover how disrupting the microbiome impacts everything from depression to cancer and the universal intelligence that organizes all of life, as well as why reconnecting with nature can transform us physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
So if you're ready to challenge conventional ideas about health and step into a more connected, whole, and vibrant way of living, this episode is for you. I know that you've worked with a lot of people around end of life and have seen some really powerful transitions. One of my former best friends was a hospice nurse and she said, the way you live is the way you die.
And I'm curious if there is a, just having been so involved in that work, if there's an experience of your own or of a client that you saw that really shaped how you see life and death because of it.
Wow, so many. I have so many of those. Yeah, when I was an associate hospice director, I was admitting 80 patients a week to die, and I did that for four years. So at some point, there's so many thousands of stories or whatever that kind of amalgamate into an experience. I would say the ones that stuck with me the hardest were the children.
You know, when you see kids on hospice and watch them transition, it's so starkly different than how adults tend to transition or our elderly experience. There was an 11-year-old girl that passed away under my care. That has really stuck with me.
She really showed me what it looks like to be fearless in life and have no fear of death either and just ready for the transition and, in fact, relieved for the transition, I think, a lot. She seemed to be somebody who picked her exit moment. She had overheard a doctor talking to her parents earlier in the year
that the doctor was trying to help the parents come to terms with the fact that this was the end. The parents had struggled to stop doing the heroic efforts, you know, and the transition to hospice for a child is very difficult for a parent to...
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Chapter 3: What are the most common regrets at the end of life?
living to that that last you know possible moment to help them in their journey and everything else and myself and everybody involved in her care team i think she had a sense of all of us and and she was doing something so loving and caring towards everyone and so i think a soul when it starts to really see itself rather than you know be convinced that you
human body is is the identity the soul starts to do beautiful you know expansive work and soul is always doing that i think but for the the being the human being to reach that singularity of soul consciousness or soul awareness of the infinite nature of itself And it starts to realize I'm here on Earth to do something far beyond this lifetime or far beyond the finite nature.
I'm here to constellate with these other souls of my parents and caregivers and siblings. And I'm here to pass on information, pass through experience. All of this. And so that I think is something that's really informed the rest of my life is to try to constantly be aware that I need not be limited by my human experience in the day to my understanding of why I'm here or what I'm here to do.
And for that, I get excited about every single moment of my life because I'm now sitting in a room with a couple people that I've not spent any significant time with in the past, and our souls are here. There's 8 billion people on the planet. We're in the midst of wildfires all over Los Angeles. Houses are burning down. Lives are changing dramatically.
Macroeconomic structures are failing all over the world. the amount of drama on the planet is so profound and so severe in these moments that we're living in, and yet these three souls decided to be in this room right now. And we can call it a podcast, we can call it something.
And there's a lot of human productivity and human ingenuity going along behind the scenes of the cameras and in your mind and your capacity to hold space for a discussion. But there's this higher plane happening where there's, for some reason, these three souls decided to step into a room right now and constellate while 8 billion others are on their journeys. What are we here to do?
And that just changes all perspective, I think, is that to your friend's point, when you start to live the way in which you're going to die, you become multidimensional throughout your life rather than waiting to be a three-dimensional being, realizing at the end of your journey like, oh, I'm a multidimensional being and I've been here forever and I'm going to go do something else now.
To start to live that every day of living, breathing a finite life, body, biology in a more permanent physics of reality is a beautiful way to live. And it relieves us of some of the apparent drama or limitations of being human and starts to move us towards this glory of nature is ascending through everything, including me.
As me. Yeah. And I love that you're bringing up what's happening amongst where we are right now with the fires. And I notice in challenging situations, there's just a presence that comes on board that's larger than just the moment. I can even feel some of the egoic pull to change. get caught up into social media and look at any challenges that are happening.
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Chapter 4: How does the microbiome affect our health?
I hope it helps. I'm not at all sure that it does in some ways because there's this duality that we are living in as human beings. We basically signed up for a journey to forget everything. And I think we probably come in as infants or newborns or we're in the womb with complete consciousness. I think we begin complete and then we buy into that.
a journey of incompleteness, you know, this fractioning of our psyche, this fractioning of our self-identity, the fractioning of our ego, egoic mind. And in that, a deep amnesia that we come from wholeness and we go back to wholeness. You know, I hope that it's just a reminder to everybody that you are perfect. You were born perfect.
There's no way you weren't perfect or else you wouldn't have completed yourself in the womb. the complexity of turning a single cell into 70 trillion cells that are all differentiated into dozens of different organs that are carried out in a symphony of behaviors through hundreds of thousands of different protein signaling cascades driven by
You know, enough DNA information to wrap around the earth 2 million times. Like the scale of a single infant is so grandiose. The DNA in a single newborn wraps around the earth 2 million times.
The amount of genetic information, the amount of protein intelligence, the amount of molecular coherence and collaboration, there's no way you weren't perfect at the beginning or else you could not have pulled off that miraculous feat of forming yourself in your mother's womb. It's impossible.
And so with that impossibility of imperfection or the inevitability of your perfection that allowed you to form, coming to terms with the fact that you signed up to forget everything and be on a journey back to remembering all of that, I think at least gives framework if it doesn't necessarily relieve the human nature of fear, guilt, shame that comes around the death process or the belief that it is the loss and end of something.
All of those are in some ways very real. It's worthwhile to acknowledge that in the three-dimensional space there's an end. This physical body is no longer there of your grandmother or your father or whoever's passing or your child. There is an end point in the physicality of the situation and it's worth feeling all of that. And I guess that would be my conclusion to the matter is
Framing it in any context of rebirth versus endpoint is hopefully, you know, helps reduce some of the stress, fear, guilt, shame, and move us to more of a wonderment towards it. I hope that as a society, we could move back to wonderment of death. If you find yourself really locked in fear of death, I would invite you to go to Bhutan or Tibet.
These are cultures that have spent tens of thousands of years honoring and in wonderment of death. And all of their efforts are to be in constant reverence to the dying. And there's... the culture is far more driven daily.
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Chapter 5: What role do feelings play in our emotional well-being?
having more of this in the zeitgeist and talking about it, I think has us have a better relationship with death and dying and completions and loss and grief and to feel it fully. I know part of my work is around, I used to be a psychotherapist.
And so really helping people go through their inner world and process it rather than stuff it or avoid it, not to deny or indulge feelings, but just have a healthy relationship with it. If so, I want to make sure that you know that our most popular event of the year is back by demand and it's absolutely fantastic.
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And then lastly, I will share with you, not only tell you, but also show you the power of embodiment work so that you can specifically use it to transform your relationship with money and attract real abundance so that you really set up to scale with ease and all the ways that you're called to. I cannot wait to share this with you. Again, it's absolutely free.
It's transformational and it's going to be so good. And research shows that we grow so much faster in community. So send this to a friend that you want to do this with and help hold yourself accountable. Again, it's free. So join us before it's too late. All you have to do is go to AlyssaNobriga.com forward slash bootcamp and reserve your space now. Yeah, those regrets tend to happen.
quite distance from the dust moment in some ways. I think where I tend to hear the regrets is when somebody is now faced with stage four cancer and is starting to come to terms with the fact that there's an end point coming, but that end point might be years out or months out or whatever it is. And so that's when they start to do that reevaluation and reevaluation.
One of the themes that has come through pretty strong in those regrets over the years is, as individuals caught up in the social constructs that we've created, there's a sadness that we spent so much time with the people that we spent so much time with, and we didn't spend enough time with the people that we really felt resident with. And for a lot of that, there's...
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Chapter 6: How does reconnecting with nature promote healing?
And it took me decades of being a doctor before I realized that my identity as a doctor was disrupting my authentic capacity as a human. And my authentic capacity showed up in my full force. And so I slowly let go of a lot of those pieces. I let go of the university and all of the...
accolades and you know constant awards that we give each other that's one of the funny things about performative environments you probably know you could quickly determine am i in a performative kind of a place or am i authentic place based on the number of awards that you're busy either receiving or giving to others if you're running around receiving and giving awards you're probably in a false reality
Nature's not awarding the oak tree for being a good oak tree. When you are in your authentic natural self, the value that you bring is so inherent that you overwhelm the environment around you with a state of grace and generosity that is met with a equal gifting economy back to you and a sense of gratitude in this reinforcing environment.
And nobody has to give anybody an award to reassure each other that your fake reality is good or fake reality is successful. And so when we look at something like award ceremonies, we need to take a deep look at what are we trying to convince ourselves of here? What is the Oscars trying to convince the world of?
We're trying to convince ourselves that the world of storytelling in Hollywood and actors and actresses are the most valuable thing on the planet. And when we look at things like the Nobel Prize or something like this, Or just the awards that we give people socially. You think of somebody like an Elon Musk who gets so many direct or indirect social rewards and accolades for doing what he does.
He's a genius mind, but he's a good example of somebody that's not running around trying to get awards. He's authentically expressing himself, and you can like him or dislike him. I agree with some of his visions. I disagree with others, but that's irrelevant.
The fact is he's a generative engine and he's got this personality or this demeanor that keeps him pretty devoid of the desire for any recognition or any awards. To reassure him that he's on his right path, you know. And so you got that Elon Musk who's in his own world, creating his own world, creating from the visions that he has.
And then you have people running around who don't have access, haven't tapped into their own visionary capacity, haven't tapped into the divinity of themselves yet.
And for that, they're putting all of their operational efforts towards producing somebody else's vision, producing something outside of themselves, trying to make social metrics, you know, meet social metrics, try to be performative in that environment. And that's where that award-seeking reassurance behavior starts to really sneak in. Am I doing a good job?
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Chapter 7: What is the relationship between the soul and biology?
has to be its own journey and their journey needs to be separate from that identity. And, and that's challenging.
It's challenging to create these corporate and social structures in which there's an understanding that authentic showing up is the inherent reward of life because our social structures have really said, well, if, if you're a good employee, then you should get the following awards and you know, there's growth and there's things and there's more money next year than this year.
There's all these expectations and, on the situation to reflect a successful year or a successful contribution. And so for me, I find that duality quite interesting of are we performative and running around reassuring each other that the performative nature is good, or are we showing up authentically and willing to just experience self today?
And I think the missing piece is identity because the deeper we tap into who we are beyond a story of who we are, the more that that is not only nourishing, but that actually changes every other aspect of our life. So I think that performative nature comes when we have a pseudo self, when we haven't really tapped into who we are.
And when we feel and know ourselves deeply, that is so nourishing and so fulfilling that it doesn't matter if one person shows up for your event or 1 million, because you know that you're being true to yourself. And you may or may not get the rewards. But that, to me, it's about identity. And as it really is embodied within ourselves, then it can be mirrored in business and in structures.
And you talk so poetically and beautifully. And one of those things you talk about is the soul. And we've kind of danced around it a little bit. I'm curious if you can define the soul from a more scientific perspective.
So that we can get on the same page, because that's part of where I want to go in this conversation, because I think it's most, that's the thing, because it's like, if we judge ourselves, because we haven't experienced ourselves, then it's so innocent that we may be trying to perform like, look what I can do. You know, it's so innocent from the perspective of soul.
It's like, okay, sweetheart, you know, and when we tap into who and what we are. There's nothing else that could offer us more or less because we can't be more or less. We just are. And when we know that it's a different game, but when we're trying, it's innocent. And so I'm curious if you could share a little bit more about the soul from a scientific perspective.
Yeah, maybe just come up for a 30,000 foot view, just thinking about identity at these different layers. And so the soul might be a description of an energetic identity that's permanent. This is the thing that allows you to knit yourself together in your mother's womb.
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Chapter 8: How can psychological identity impact health?
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