Healing + Human Potential
The Truth About Women’s Health + Mind Body Healing | EP 69
Tue, 31 Dec 2024
What if the answers to your health challenges aren’t in a prescription but within yourself? In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Kelly Brogan, a holistic psychiatrist and New York Times bestselling author, to uncover the hidden truths about the pharmaceutical industry and its impact on women’s health. We dive deep into how modern medicine often separates the mind and body and what we lose by ignoring the profound connection between them. Dr. Brogan shares her unique perspective on the intersection of physiological and psychological health, offering insights into how our emotions, beliefs, and even societal conditioning shape our physical experiences. From her own journey of healing to helping others embrace the wisdom of their bodies, she explains why psychosomatic factors are often the missing link in true wellness. If you’ve ever felt disconnected from your body or frustrated with conventional approaches to health, this conversation invites you to explore a new perspective. We talk about embracing the mind-body connection, understanding the subconscious role of illness, and reclaiming your authority over your health. === Join our ICF-Accredited Coach Certification Program, the Institute for Coaching Mastery, designed to help you become a highly skilled + confident coach at the top of your game, in any niche. Whether you’re Brand New wanting to shortcut the learning curve, or you’re Experienced looking to back higher fees with real value, we offer trauma-informed Trainings + Tools, Live Coaching, and a Customizable 6-figure + Beyond Signature Roadmap to take your income + impact to the next level. If you want to create lasting change in your life and feel confident in helping others do the same, while having a thriving business… Click this link to Learn More + Apply Today: https://www.alyssanobriga.com/applynow ✨ === GUEST LINKS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kellybroganmd/ Website: https://www.kellybroganmd.com/ === Have you watched our previous episode with Dan Stickler? Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/EV3hHLBAJMg ==== Alyssa Nobriga International, LLC - Disclaimer This podcast is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or any other qualified professional. We shall in no event be held liable to any party for any reason arising directly or indirectly for the use or interpretation of the information presented in this video. Copyright 2023, Alyssa Nobriga International, LLC - All rights reserved. === Website: alyssanobriga.com Instagram: @alyssanobriga TikTok - @alyssanobriga Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6b5s2xbA2d3pETSvYBZ9YR Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/healing-human-potential/id1705626495
Chapter 1: What are the hidden truths about women’s health?
Truly, what would it be to live in your body where it's never a problem? Your insomnia is literally not a problem. Your diarrhea is not a problem. There are no problems. right, that your body is expressing, to reprogram on that level means that you have come into an orientation towards yourself that is like a radical yes. Having a random illness that has an ICD-10 code allows you to what? Take...
literally zero responsibility for the experience and so the victim posture is built in to that diagnosis the defiance of that victim posture i think comes through the appreciation of how being in the victim actually works, like it meets our needs.
80% of all autoimmune diseases are with women. And so I think there's connections with all of this psychosomatic. And I would just love to hear a little bit more about how you healed your thyroid and how you really took your power back from this sort of quote unquote broken system. Well, it's interesting because
Welcome back to the Healing and Human Potential podcast, where today we're exploring the root cause of illness and how understanding the mind-body connection could be the missing link that actually supports you in feeling more vital and healthy today.
We are joined by Dr. Kelly Brogan today, who is a pioneer in the healthcare field, and she's really exploring with us the subconscious purposes that illness can serve as well as how to really integrate your shadows so that you do the work from the inside out.
So if you're ready to challenge modern day healthcare paradigms and really take the problem out of thinking that something's wrong with your body, take your power back from this misunderstanding and really heal at the root, this episode is for you. I'm so happy that you're here. Welcome, welcome to the podcast. Thank you.
Yeah, I wanted to start us off just talking about the good girl archetype and talking about how this is really rooted in shame. And I know that part of the work is to bust out of societal conditioning and move through those fears. And you do some work around nervous system work. Talk to us about how you would recommend women start waking up out of this good girl archetype.
This feels like the million-dollar question, and I love just diving right in to the deep end. Yeah, to talk about the shadow of fawning and just the hollowness that ultimately characterizes a life built on the good girl archetype. My primary qualification, I mean, you mentioned that I'm a psychiatrist. I was a neuroscience major in college.
I have been very invested for a long time in cracking the code of human behavior and attempting to validate so many aspects of our lived experience through psychology. You know, the microscope and my primary credential is that I am many decades into good girl programming and have in so many ways achieved the promise of what is on offer through the sort of.
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Chapter 2: How can women reclaim their authority over their health?
And I also hear you saying that it depends on having either a healthy ego structure or having some self care. And really, safety is the key ingredient, and safety is really only found in the present moment. And so when we wake up out of the fear based thinking, we can access a deeper safety that's underneath the fear that's always present.
And as we access that, everything else starts to integrate. And so you and I can see why one of my students wanted us to connect because I can see some of the parallels to the work. And it's powerful. It's profound. Do you want new tools and powerful group exercises to help you deeply and profoundly change your life?
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I also know that you talked about integrating the victim mentality, really starting to integrate your shadow, waking up out of that. Can you talk to us more about what you've found to be helpful with that? Because I think most of society is still living there.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of the good girl archetype?
you know, emergent phenomenon of just having a body, just having a flawed human body. You know, it gets sick sometimes, shit happens kind of a thing. And this perspective obviously is very confronting for a lot of people because the, well, for the very reasons we're talking about, because having a random illness that has an ICD-10 code allows you to, to what? Take
Literally zero responsibility for the experience. And so the victim posture is built in to that diagnosis that says this thing happened to you and too bad, so sad. So most you can do is just be a good patient, take your meds, show up to your appointments. And you know, this is just, this is just life. So the defiance of that victim is,
that victim posture, I think comes through the appreciation of how being in the victim actually works. Like it meets our needs the same way, you know, drinking alcohol, even if you understand yourself to have a problem with drinking alcohol, it's meeting needs, it's working. And as long as you are in rejection of that thing and,
or obviously embrace of it, like you're not going to be able to see the relational aspects, right? So what is your relationship to your symptoms and your illness affording you? Well, usually to really reduce it down, there's yeses that we get and there's nos that we get. So the yeses that we get through a diagnosis are usually in the realm of connection, compassion, attention,
And the no's that we get are in the realm of boundaries, right? So where if you have this thing, you often don't need to learn how to say no. The other day I was thinking about this because my daughter asked me, I have teenage daughters, and my daughter asked me to drive her somewhere. I didn't feel like driving her somewhere. I live in Miami. The traffic is actually unhinged recently.
I don't even know what's happening. Everyone from LA and New York is moving here. And for me to take her somewhere 15 minutes away would have been like an hour of something and driving. And I really didn't have any good reason not to drive her. And I had this immediate thought that if I had a migraine...
or a cold or really bad, really super bad menstrual cramps or something that I could just be like, oh, I can't, I'm sick or whatever. Right. And then what would I get? I would get, first of all, off the hook. I wouldn't have to do this thing. I inexplicably didn't feel like doing or explicably didn't feel like doing. And then I would get, you know, her understanding.
and I might even get like a kind of softness and gentleness, and maybe she would be like extra nice to me or whatever. I'd get all that stuff. So I'd get the not doing the thing that I didn't want to do, and then I'd get extra bonuses, right?
So when you think about like anybody who has a chronic diagnosis, or it's not even just chronic, because I could tell you lots of stories about like, you know, things I, weird things I manifested right before I would like, start traveling with my daughters as a single woman, which I had like a lot of blocks and resistance to doing.
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