Healing + Human Potential
How to Have a Purpose-Driven Business, More Freedom + Make a Difference | EP 65
Tue, 03 Dec 2024
What if the key to solving the world’s biggest challenges lies in solving your own? In this episode, we dive into how personal struggles can spark global movements. I sit down with Miki and Radha Agrawal, twin entrepreneurs who have disrupted industries with groundbreaking ideas like Thinx period panties and Daybreaker, a sober morning dance movement. They share how turning inward to solve their own problems has helped them create businesses that inspire connection and belonging on a massive scale. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, a community builder, or someone searching for a deeper connection, this conversation will challenge you to rethink the power of creativity, resilience, and purpose in your life. Miki and Radha’s story will leave you inspired to approach every challenge as an opportunity to spark meaningful change. === Join our ICF-Accredited Coach Certification Program, the Institute for Coaching Mastery, designed to help you become a highly skilled + confident coach at the top of your game, in any niche. Whether you’re Brand New wanting to shortcut the learning curve, or you’re Experienced looking to back higher fees with real value, we offer trauma-informed Trainings + Tools, Live Coaching, and a Customizable 6-figure + Beyond Signature Roadmap to take your income + impact to the next level. If you want to create lasting change in your life and feel confident in helping others do the same, while having a thriving business… Click this link to Learn More + Apply Today: https://www.alyssanobriga.com/applynow ✨ === GUEST LINKS Radha's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/love.radha/ Miki's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikiagrawal/ HIRO Technologies: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hirotechnologies/hiro-experience-plastic-eating-fungi-at-home Website: https://www.daybreaker.com/ Website: https://hellotushy.com/ === Have you watched our previous episode with Natalie Ellis? Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Dn2diQ9-tWo ==== Alyssa Nobriga International, LLC - Disclaimer This podcast is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or any other qualified professional. We shall in no event be held liable to any party for any reason arising directly or indirectly for the use or interpretation of the information presented in this video. Copyright 2023, Alyssa Nobriga International, LLC - All rights reserved. === Website: alyssanobriga.com Instagram: @alyssanobriga TikTok - @alyssanobriga Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6b5s2xbA2d3pETSvYBZ9YR Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/healing-human-potential/id1705626495
Chapter 1: What is the driving philosophy behind Miki and Radha's entrepreneurial ventures?
All of our ideas that we do, it really stems from, there's a problem, let's solve it, instead of complain about it. Our Indian father always said, create, don't complain. You know, in a world of like so many complainers and sort of backseat drivers and trolls. Talk, talk, talk, and no action. Yeah, for us, it's like, okay, there's a problem, let's solve it.
You guys just have such entrepreneurial mindsets to be going through your life to be like, here's an opportunity to serve and change the conversation.
I just feel like we always like to solve problems that start with our problems in our own lives. And then then we kind of extrapolate. Is it is it is it a problem for a lot of people? It's a three question. What sucks in my world? Does it suck for a lot of people? Can we be passionate about this for a really long time?
one in three americans have zero friends to confide in this number has tripled in the last 30 years and turns out having poor social connections is as harmful to your physical health as being an alcoholic and twice as harmful as obesity or smoking 15 cigarettes per day so loneliness is really prevalent amongst entrepreneurs amongst i mean one in three americans in general and and i think we've become more lonely as we've begin continue to swipe
Our guests today, Miki and Radha Agarwal, are celebrated for their ability to disrupt traditional markets with groundbreaking products. They've launched Thanks Period panties together. Miki really went on to launch Tushy, as well as Hero Technologies, which we talk about in the podcast. And then Radha built Daybreaker, which is a global morning dance movement.
And together, they've built multiple companies that have generated tens of millions of dollars in revenue, but also given back to their communities. They truly embody a unique sense of creativity, resilience, and purpose in the world. And I'm so excited for you to dive in. This is a fun one. Oh, my gosh. I just love you both so much.
What an honor to be able to do your first podcast together here. You are badasses in business, in motherhood individually, and together you're on a whole other level. Like, wow. And I know that the company that you guys started and sold, Thanks, is more than a product. It's really a conversation about empowering women, changing the conversation around menstruation, and... women's bodies.
I just want to know the story about what Inspired thinks to start with.
Sure. So we were defending our three-legged race championship title, our family barbecue. It's called Agripalooza. And it was a 10-year title that we were the reigning champions of. It's like egg toss and three-legged race are these two kind of like tentpole events at our annual Agripalooza. Our last name is Agrawal, so Agripalooza. It was, you know, competitive, everything competitive.
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Chapter 2: How did personal experiences shape the creation of Thinx?
If you're in the middle of a soccer game, you can't be like ref.
Yeah.
Can you stop the game? I got to go change my tampon.
Yeah. You know, on your way to recital.
Yeah. There's so many moments. And so in that moment. Actually, what was interesting about it was the blood came right off my bathing suit bottom. And I was like, oh, this is an interesting moment of material that the blood can actually come off. But it's not breathable. Bathing suit bottoms, you can't wear them as underwear because it's not that your vagina can't breathe.
So you spent like four years really developing the technology. Exactly.
You guys just have such entrepreneurial mindsets to be going through your life to be like, here's an opportunity to serve and change the conversation. Like that's...
We're both heavy bleeders, you know? And I just think that we've had always, and we continue to this day, every month it's like, it's my first time. I'm like, oh shit, my period, you know? And so I just feel like we always like to solve problems that start with our problems in our own lives. And then we kind of extrapolate, is it a problem for a lot of people?
And are we passionate about this topic? Those are the three sort of starting points for any project that we start.
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Chapter 3: What are the social impacts of loneliness in America?
Like, it's like, you know, the old boys club, like, style. We've been around for 20 years. I mean, we've been entrepreneurs for 20 years. And, like, I would say that we were, you know, it's just in the last, what is it, 1988, that women were allowed to start their own business. Literally. Like, that's, I just read this online.
That in 1988 was the first time that women could open their own business and set up their own LLC. And... And just a wild statistic to understand that just in the last, you know, 25 years, have we been able to actually fundraise, build a business, and be autonomous female-owned business. I mean, it's crazy. So it's still, we're still on shaky ground.
And I think there's still, we live in such a deeply, deeply patriarchal condition system. And even women, I mean, the number one who voted for Trump, I mean, like, you know, it's just like we, it's like the idea of a woman leading is just so weird and strange.
And there's this power struggle, less and less, but there's still a power struggle that you see in the world between, you know, like, are there enough seats at the table for everyone? The answer is yes. Like, we believe that there's enough seats for everyone at the table, but a lot of people don't. And so we've had to, like,
you know to raise money people even after selling things like people like oh you got lucky you know so for tushy it was like started over so i've never raised a dollar in my life or never built anything in my life it was really interesting and the here was different because you know after having two companies under the belt and plus daybreaker every between the two of us like it got easier.
Exponential.
Yeah, but you really paved the way.
It was really intense. No one was gonna invest in an underwear company about periods, you know? No one is gonna invest in sort of anything women's product. This is back in, I mean, 10, 12 years ago. Now there's more women starting businesses than men. There's more women graduating college than men. So there's, you know, the tables and tides are turning.
But also there had been like, you look at so many female founders who achieved success have had some level of takedown. You know, I'm so grateful that Radha hasn't. You know, but like, you know, so many of us have gone through that because of the power dynamics that women experience. And like, I didn't expect to have an experience like that. You know, I was pregnant as well.
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Chapter 4: How do Miki and Radha support each other in their businesses?
So it was sort of like... But then now, coming out on the other side of it, with the world changing, with things changing as a result of the work that so many of us have done, it's really powerful to now have these stories to tell. It's actually more interesting, creates more texture. It doesn't, you know, it's like, everything's great. It's just like, cool.
You know, versus like, ugh, like we suck the merit of life. Like we... You know, the famous quote, it's like, I want to skid to death's door sideways, not in a well-preserved body, loudly, thoroughly used up, loudly proclaiming, wow, what a life. You know, it's like just a used, like you've experienced everything, the highs, the lows, everything in between.
It's like you really juiced life in every way. And that's such a gift.
I feel like you both are a stand for living life fully and going for your dreams and paving new ways. And you're not afraid to back down from something that somebody else hasn't done. And so I just want to thank you for that as a woman, as a friend, like I just love and adore both of you and your brilliance. I'm wondering, is there a moment where you realized you guys were different?
Because you have so much aliveness and excitement for life, but you're also incredibly powerful and put action behind it.
I mean, I think someone said it's like, what is the ingredients to maybe our careers? And I think for me, it's we trade on our enthusiasm. I think so many people are just like too cool for school or trying to be professional. I hate my job. Me too. There's a posturing that happens. And I think that for us, it's like, we still feel that deep zest for life and enthusiasm and everything.
It's like, oh my God, Alyssa, wow. Like your earrings are incredible. It's like every detail of life is just like a wow. And I feel like that enthusiasm mixed with, to me, like creativity and purpose. You know, when you bring those two together, then magic happens, right?
And I think it's like, if you're just kind of focused on purpose and execution and all of that without the enthusiasm, then life can get pretty tedious or life can get pretty stressful after a while. But if you stay and you really continue to find that enthusiasm, that joie de vivre, you know, that I think that both of us, I think, continue to inspire within each other,
I think that's really, to me, the best ingredients of what makes us continue to be inspired in our lives. I wrote a book called Disruptor. The book is really looking at the 13 major areas in your life, whether money, friendship, relationship, career, just all the areas in our life that people find like this is the way it is.
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Chapter 5: What unique challenges do female entrepreneurs face?
We've been friends for a while and that perfectly, to me, embodies what you both stand for. This wonder and excitement for life and still being really powerful and making an impact in the world. And I didn't put that together until you just shared that.
And I'm also thinking about masculine and feminine ways of being or being really stuck in our head that more focused spreadsheet type way, which leads to a lot of burnout. Right. And there's importance for the creativity and following the aliveness, which is a better fuel, but without any of the focus and the head in service to the heart, then it can just be watery and doesn't have any structure.
That's right. It needs structure, it needs form, it needs operating. You guys embody both of that. And I think some of the feminine ways that I see you do that is the aliveness and the creativity, but also the collaboration. You guys are great at collaborating.
For people that are either burnt out, because I know we all kind of go through learning about that, what would you say is some of the sweet spot or what would you help people come back to if you've discovered something yourself or you're still discovering kind of that sweet spot?
There's this quote from a physicist that he says, it's not just do, do, do, it's not just be, be, be, it's do, be, do, be, do, be, do. Yeah, I love that. I love that. That's great.
And I think that you nailed it. I think it's really about embodiment. I think it's about dancing your way through life. I think it's, to me, it's twofold. It's one, it's... Um, get out of your head into our bodies, right? I think we're so cut off at the head and we forget that our bodies actually hold all the wisdom.
So how can we actually move into a kind of a more integrated work, live, play environment and escape? But, but burnout to me happens because... Yeah, I think sometimes like you're just working with two pieces that they're missing. One is without clear direction. Right. And without kind of the support and community to to help you stay kind of in the pocket. Right.
I think that's what I was going to say, which was that part about. I think because we're twins, we're really good at asking for help. Excuse me, can you help me? Like, Radha, come help me. Can you? And we're so used to being like, you know, let's go, like, let's go, you know? And it's like, there's always a, like, team.
Like, we grew up, we were in the womb together, like from the womb to the tomb, like we have this saying, and it's like, We've always been in community, always asking for help. A lot of people are too proud to ask for help, ask for support. Literally, when we're anywhere, it's like, excuse me, can you help me with my luggage up top? Can you carry the stroller down the stairs?
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Chapter 6: How can community support impact personal and professional life?
PMS sometimes, too. And we, you know, sometimes there's so much going on that we're like barking orders sometimes. But our team feels so loved, celebrated by us. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's a beautifully textured relationship. but ultimately it is that cheerleading. It is that, it is that like the passion that keeps all of us so motivated.
Yeah. And, and I just want to highlight that because I was reading a, I think it was like the happiness advantage or just talking about what you essentially embody, which is celebrating people, seeing people, helping them feel like they belong. They're part of a bigger mission and then they want to do their best. They are, they're, they're going to show up.
You're enrolling them into that vision rather than micromanaging or barking orders.
And I think there's a, there's a, there's a fine line between, just being a cheerleader and holding someone also to their highest and their best. And I think, actually, people really value and feel more motivated when they have a manager or a team leader who's holding you accountable to sort of pushing you, hey, Alyssa, I know you could do better than that.
I know you've got, like, a deeper, more magical, you know, like... Can you go all the way?
Go further. Show me more. Go all the way.
Yeah, you know, and I think, like, it's not just leading from, like, Paula Abdul on American Idol. Like, people, like, look at Simon Cowell, even if he's kind of an asshole, but he's like, but they respect him because he often gives really specific pointed advice.
And everyone's like, he's right.
That's helpful, and he's right. And so I think that mixing the cheerleader with a really sort of, like, Tough love feedback, but loving. So that they want to show up with their best self, and there's an excitement for that. One of my friends, David Yarris, who's working for a company right now, he's like it's the first time he feels excited to work for this company.
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Chapter 7: What is the importance of asking for help in entrepreneurship?
Exactly. And I feel that way even as we're building our new company and with Tushy, our design teams, both teams, they know that I don't mince my words when it comes to creativity. It's like, I think you can go further. I want to create something that's iconic. Is this iconic? It's not iconic. And it's sort of like, will other people copy us? If this is not copyable, then it's not iconic enough.
And so they're like, okay.
When you said that, I could feel myself being like, I'll just do it, instead of being like, I see you can do better, which is pulling Oh, I'll just do it versus... For me, I'm just imagining myself in your shoes and I would be like, oh, it's not there. I'll just do it versus calling them forward into what they're... Push your creative edge. Let's keep going. I like this, but more of that.
And a way to do it is like, okay, put three Pinterest boards together, the most iconic shit you've ever seen in these three different directions and then come back to me. And then it's like, then it crystallizes. Then it's like, okay. And then all of a sudden they surprise themselves and produce something that they didn't think they could.
I also love how specific and clear you were in that, in the directions. I'm like, yeah, tell me what to do, Megan.
Yeah.
They need enough direction to then go and be creative. Because you need a sandbox to play in. Because if it's just like full on, there's like, where do you start? It's like, give me the sandbox and let me play and create as much as I can inside the sandbox. But everyone, including children, adults, like boundaries. Boundaries are really important.
Yeah.
And that's, and that's, and that's coaching. Learned boundaries. Wow.
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Chapter 8: How do Miki and Radha integrate creativity into their work?
For anyone that has not gone to Daybreaker yet, highly recommend. It just reminds you of the magic of being human and alive. It's the greatest.
Like, you can't... Like, it's very difficult to go to any other party after going to Daybreaker, because the vibration is so high. Like, every time I leave, the frequency of my body, I'm vibrating at the highest level. It's truly next level. Well, we're in our 11th season, and so it's wild, you know, when you think of a dance party, you know, they typically come and go.
And I think that the reason why the threat of this is here to stay is that, you know, we're only a million, you know, it's a lot, but we're only a million community members strong. There's seven billion, eight billion people on the planet.
And it's like if everyone just woke up and started their day with a dance party in costume with a friend or two, or just outside in the sun with the vitamin D on your face, like think about how different the world would be. So I think we still have a lot of work to do in this space and just in terms of proliferating around the world, but just really excited.
And I'll also say one thing about Daybreaker is that it's like you rarely see a community of people like so behind something and just like, oh my God, the Daybreaker, it's like the band that's like coming to town, you know? And it just... it creates such a space of like belonging. Like it's such a place where people can like feel like they can go and know how they're gonna feel when they leave.
They're gonna feel so good. And so it's like, why wouldn't you want, that's why it's been 11 years old. That's why it keeps going because it's not like a, okay, this club is done because I've done enough And I'm like kind of like this place reminds me of like the down that I feel after, you know, versus like when you whenever whenever I think about Daybreaker, I feel my body's frequency rise.
And so why wouldn't you want to go do that for yourself over and over again with it with people that you meet, fall in love with, build community with? It's just... Yeah, fully expressed in the morning.
Like, wow, what a way to start the day. And you could go on your own or you can meet people there. It's such an inclusive community. And I know that both of you are phenomenal at building businesses with purpose. And so with some of that, you talked about belonging. Can you share a bit more about the purpose? Because you talk about like inclusion is not just what you put on your policy.
It's really creating spaces where you make people feel like they belong. I know that you are a stand for that.
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