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Habits and Hustle

Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong

03 Jun 2025

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Are wellness retreats just luxury getaways, or can they transform your health? In this episode of the Habits and Hustle podcast, I speak with Dr. Vishal Patel, who explains how most wellness gadgets might be causing more stress than health benefits.  We explore the science behind Sensei's approach, including how thermal imaging can detect muscular imbalances before they cause pain, and why most saunas aren't hot enough to deliver benefits. Dr. Patel debunks popular wellness myths, shares why foot strength is the foundation of longevity, and explains why tracking obsession can be counterproductive.  Dr. Vishal Patel is the Chief Scientific Officer at Sensei, a wellness retreat company co-founded by Larry Ellison and Dr. David Agus. With a background as a physician with a PhD in genetics, Dr. Patel combines Western medicine with Eastern practices like Ayurveda to create evidence-based wellness approaches that focus on personalization rather than rigid rules. What We Discuss:  03:02 Personalized Wellness Programs 05:51 The Science of Eating and Nourishment 08:56 Understanding Body Mechanics for Longevity 12:03 Vishal Patel's Background and Expertise 14:54 Debunking Wellness Myths and Misinformation 20:13 The Science Behind Wellness Trends 25:14 Exploring Infrared Saunas and Their Efficacy 30:00 The Role of Data in Health Tracking 35:29 Understanding Plasmapheresis and Its Implications …and more! Thank you to our sponsors: Momentous: Shop this link and use code Jen for 20% off Therasage: Head over to therasage.com and use code Be Bold for 15% off  TruNiagen: Head over to truniagen.com and use code HUSTLE20 to get $20 off any purchase over $100. Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. Bio.me: Link to daily prebiotic fiber here, code Jennifer20 for 20% off.  David: Buy 4, get the 5th free at davidprotein.com/habitsandhustle.   Find more from Jen:  Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen   Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement Find more from Dr. Vishal Patel: Website: https://sensei.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vishal-n-patel-md-phd/ 

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1.428 - 25.052 Jennifer Cohen

Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it. Before we dive into today's episode, I first want to thank our sponsor, Therasage. Their tri-light panel has become my favorite biohacking thing for healing my body. It's a portable red light panel that I simply cannot live without. I literally bring it with me everywhere I go.

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91.027 - 118.32 Jennifer Cohen

So I'm joined today by Dr. Vishal Patel, who is the chief science and innovative officer at a place called, it's the most beautiful place I've ever been, Sensei. Sensei is basically, I want you to kind of walk us through it because I had a beautiful experience. It is a wellness facility that is beyond anything I've ever been to because of the care and the quality and just overall the programming.

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118.92 - 124.503 Jennifer Cohen

Let's talk about how would you describe what it is, and then let's get into your background and what your involvement is.

125.044 - 143.535 Dr. Vishal Patel

Oh, sure. To describe what it is, it's a wellness retreat, but even that doesn't do justice to the place and the experience. It was a vision that our co-founders, Larry Ellison and David Agus, had. It was the passing of a close friend, Steve Jobs, that really made them realize that the world needs...

144.295 - 162.968 Dr. Vishal Patel

spaces where even the best and brightest can feel safe and get trusted, vetted advice about their health and wellness. And I think that's probably what you experienced at Lanai, that it feels like a place where you can let your guard down, where you can You, you can, you can feel safe.

163.088 - 178.173 Dr. Vishal Patel

You can have space to wander and you have experts, which are really hidden gems that a lot of people don't expect, but we have brilliant, brilliant minds and hearts on Lanai that can guide our guests to greater wellbeing. It's, it's something special.

178.633 - 186.975 Jennifer Cohen

It is something special. Yeah. So like I went to the one like on, in Lanai, in, in Hawaii and there's, how many locations do you guys have? Three now?

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