Bobby Skinner & the Football Grump break down 8 prospects from the 2025 NFL Draft. 0:00 Intro 4:17 Colorado Travis Hunter 14:34 Michigan Will Johnson 19:59 ECU Shavon Revel 27:21 Notre Dame Benjamin Morrison 34:52 Kentucky Maxwell Hairston 42:00 Ole Miss Trey Amos 46:13 FSU Azareye'h Thomas 50:27 Louisville Quincey Riley Support our Patreon: Patreon.com/GiantsNation Merch: GiantsNationShow.com
Chapter 1: Who are the hosts and what is the focus of this episode?
Welcome to the Giants Nation Show. I'm your host, Bobby Skinner, here with my co-host, the football crump. The crump? No, we're talking corners, not groiners. The football grump. And we're looking at corners, doing our corner preview. A little behind, so back-to-back episodes. Quarterback and then quarterback Thursday and Friday. It's going to start with Travis Hunter.
We'll finish with Grump's guy, Quincy Riley from Louisville at the end. A Colorado and a Louisville guy, just like yesterday's episode. Grump, how are we doing? You're doing good.
It's Crump to you. Ready to talk corners. This is actually one of my favorite positions to break down. I think it's a lot of fun, and I'm ready to go.
It feels like a – obviously, you have Travis Hunter, Will Johnson. We're not doing Jadae Barron just because where he's like consensus is out of the Giants' range. They're just not going to take him. And if he gets in that range, we'll just watch him on Friday of the draft.
of day two so basically you're going everyone outside of that in like the top 100 or close to the top 100 in that and obviously you have hunter will johnson i don't know why will johnson has like went from uh like projected top three pick in the summer to now where people just don't talk about him at all maybe it's because we're in giant's land and he's not someone we're considering but i still think his film is really good hunter is obviously travis hunter and
And then I just feel like there's a lot of good, like, physical corner twos in this class. Again, not a ton of guys who are going to come in and be locked down, all pro, Pro Bowl corner ones, but just a big group of guys who are going to be physical. They're going to piss off receivers. They're going to do a good job being that second corner. They're going to get turnovers with good ball skills.
And it's just like... Usually corner is a position where I hate a lot of the guys we talk about and been rumored to the Giants. And there's really not that with this group of guys that we're going to talk about. For me, at least.
I'm actually usually very down on corners compared to consensus on a general scale. And it's because I think it's one of the hardest positions to transition from the college game to the NFL game. And I think that a lot of the times it's the under-the-radar guy or the guy who is projected in the second round or the third round. Those are the guys who usually...
I don't say usually, but a lot of times those are the guys that stick around and the guys that are picked in the first round, you know, they end up busting out. I mean, it happens all the time with first round corners. And so I'm usually very, very weary about taking them in the first round. But I like taking them in like the day two of the draft. I really like going for corners.
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Chapter 2: What makes Travis Hunter a top draft prospect?
I knew that was going to happen eventually, Grump. I knew that was going to happen eventually. But let's get into Travis Hunter. Old Travis. And I know that guy's first name. The corner out of Colorado. Six foot, 188 pounds. We're not going to talk about him as a wide receiver. I mean, 12 pass breakups, seven interceptions the last two years. Um... Heisman winner at corner and wide receiver.
I mean, he's just grumpy. He plays the position like a wide receiver, right? Like he understands where these passing concepts are going. He knows where to key in on quarterbacks and what they're looking at. and it's just like his ball skills are not just, oh, he can go up and make a nice grab. He does. Or not that, oh, he can close in on a ball and break it up.
It's just I've never seen a – not never, but it's very rare where you see a corner grump. We talk about turning the head where it's like he just knows when that ball is coming, and he's able to telegraph it from miles away, and that's why he's able to get his hands on the football so much because – He knows, okay, the receiver's breaking here. This is where the ball is going to come out.
Let me turn my head, find the quarterback, and make a play.
Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing that I said about Mikey Saner still last year. Being able to play both sides of the ball, we'll leave the fact that you have to consider Travis Hunter as a potential wide receiver anyway off the table for now. But the fact is that even if he wasn't currently playing both sides of the ball,
The switchover, the knowledge switchover helps so much on the defensive side of the ball. Just understanding concepts as they're breaking down because you run them. Because you understand how it's supposed to beat defenses and in what ways. Then you flip to the other side of the ball. You know exactly how to combat that and you're able to recognize it a lot faster.
On top of that, Travis Hunter is just an absolute... animal for the passion of the game. I honest to God think that he is going to be the kind of guy that's going to spend all the hours watching film on his own without anyone telling him to do it on his opponent week after week after week, the same way that Dion did when he was a player. So he wants to absorb as much as possible.
He wants to be involved as much as possible. I think that Travis Hunter is going to be invaluable at the next level.
You can tell in his game how much he understands what they're running, right? Like, he cheats his leverage so much, right? Like, he will straight up, it looks like he's lined up on the wrong guy how much he'll cheat. And he's like, I know a dig's coming here, so I'm going to cheat inside.
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Chapter 3: How does Will Johnson compare to other cornerbacks in the draft?
In college, I think he did get a little bit of star treatment. Or they didn't call it on him a lot. But there was a lot of times where one of my notes was physical and press.
but gets way too grabby past five yards you know or they'll be turned like you put them in cloud coverage he'll he can jam a receiver into the sideline put him on their ass but there's also times where he's he's thrown a jam at like eight yards and that's going to turn into a you know take a third and eight and turn it into a first down so
That is – I think that's just something that comes with basically every corner nowadays unless you're fucking, you know, Patrick Sertan Jr. But, you know, like, you know, Sauce Gardner's really grabby. J.C. Horn's really – like, all these – it seems like all these guys are like that. And it's just kind of like you got to play with it consistently so refs don't call – so it's not like a –
It's a weird thing. I think Richard Sherman kind of was living proof of this where if you're physical all the time, the referees are not going to call penalties on you. Where if you're not physical like that and then you do get grabby on a third down, well, they're going to give it to you. This is not the edge preview grump, but where are you in the Travis Hunter versus Abdul Carter?
Let's just pretend both are available at three. Who do you prefer?
Oh, it's so tough. It's so tough. I think you'd be happy with either. I think from a philosophical standpoint, I think Travis Hunter is I think you use the draft to get the best players that you can. And in that case, I would say Travis Hunter. But I mean, that's I don't know. Is that really realistic? All of the time is the difference between Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter. Massive.
I don't think so. I like both of them. I'm very scared about taking corners in the first round. But Travis Hunter is an extreme exception. And I think a lot of it has to do with what goes on between the ears with him and the character makeup of him as a worker. He's got a fail safe.
Even if he fails a corner, it's like, well, we know he's going to be a good wide receiver, right, where that's. Wide receiver's a little more, like, clean. Like, he's going to be good. We don't need to worry about him busting for a lot of guys. And I think Hunter falls in that category.
Yeah, I mean, you do have that added benefit right there. But, I mean, again, if you... If he fails, I don't think he will. But if he fails as a corner and you have to resort to him as like, I don't think he's really like an alpha wide receiver one. Immediately the conversation becomes, well, yeah, he's a wide receiver. That's a starter. But at three, you know what I mean?
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Chapter 4: What are the strengths and weaknesses of ECU's Shavon Revel?
Yeah, I mean, this is a person that I'm not super familiar with. I haven't been following Siobhan Revel for more than a couple of weeks. So I don't really know a whole bunch about him, the guy, to really have an opinion on how he'll take to coaching or anything like that. I will say he's one of the more physical guys that we're going to cover today.
I think he's the only one that consistently was used in blitzes. Maybe I'm wrong about that. Morrison did a little bit, but yeah. Okay. But yeah, I mean, he's super athletic. So all the rawness, you have the athletic upside. I wouldn't use the athleticism to make up for the rawness.
But, you know, he's going to have to I think he's going to have to do a little bit of learning and getting comfortable. I don't really know that he's a a starter week one. You know what I mean?
Right, so guys with the Siobhan Revel profile are guys that you can fall in love with, and then you get to the NFL, and it's like, yeah, but they just give up catches. And like I mentioned, he gives up the hitches, the in-breakers, and he plays kind of high.
um for his height right like you watch some corners there you know they squat down low they get like his press is like you said extremely disruptive but he plays high and it just feels like he's just when the receivers are snappy at the top of the route it just loses him right on a cross and it doesn't need to be the fastest you know
You know, sometimes it's old Dominion wide receivers where they're running an over route and, you know, they're say they're running it to the right. They throw a little shoulder fake to the left and then, you know, continue that. And he's able to they're able to separate. Now, his athleticism in college is able to make up for that. Right.
He had an interception where he's playing from way off coverage against Appalachian State. I think it was actually a flea flicker, but he just closes in. But in the NFL, that's not always going to happen. You know, you're facing teams that have two really good wide receivers. So that's my worry with Ravel.
It's like you fall in love with this athleticism, the physicality and all that, but then you get to the NFL where you're facing NFL wide receivers every week and he just gives up catches. And that was, I think he's a very different profile from Deontay Banks, but that was my worry with Banks.
It's like, man, there's a lot to love, but he loses the release and I don't think he's great at the catch point. And guys that lose the release and aren't great at the catch point give up catches in the NFL.
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