A brief meditation on loss, relativity, and the vagaries of show business.RESOURCES:Billie Eilish: The World's a Little Blurry, documentary (2021)Genius & Anxiety: How Jews Changed the World, 1847-1947, by Norman Lebrecht (2019)The War Room, documentary (1993) EXTRAS:“Is San Francisco a Failed State? (And Other Questions You Shouldn’t Ask the Mayor)” by Freakonomics Radio (2025)“Ari Emanuel Is Never Indifferent,” by Freakonomics Radio (2023)
Chapter 1: What unexpected event changed the live show plans?
Life is funny. I think we all know that. And it's unpredictable. But just how unpredictable? Once in a while, something happens that is so outlandish that you never even considered it possible. Nassim Taleb calls this a black swan event. In my case, I'm going to call it... Actually, I don't know what to call it yet. Maybe you can help me name it. Let me explain.
Last Thursday, on February 13th, we were scheduled to do a live Freakonomics Radio show at the Wilshire E. Bell Theatre in Los Angeles. Now, a live show for us... We'll be right back.
It's not going to have the depth or the flow of a regular episode, but there is something thrilling about the live setting, the interviews that you're not really sure where they're going to go, the response from the audience that you can't predict. And, of course, any number of strange things that might happen when you try to do something that resembles show business. Coming into this L.A.
Chapter 2: Who were the special guests for the live show?
show, we felt pretty good. We had two excellent guests lined up. Ari Emanuel, the super agent and CEO of Endeavor, who was also the model for Ari Gold from the TV show Entourage. And we had the award winning filmmaker R.J. Cutler, who got his start on the Clinton campaign documentary The War Room.
and who's been making excellent documentaries ever since, including a recent one about Martha Stewart. We also had Luis Guerra, who composes and performs a lot of the music you hear on this show. He had put together a live band for the evening, which I was definitely looking forward to. I love... Luis and his music, and he has a network of musicians that is amazing.
Now, I'm not going to say the mood before the show was buoyant. Exactly. Los Angeles had, of course, been hit by those terrible, fatal wildfires, and now it was cold. and raining hard. When I got to the theater around 4 p.m. for soundcheck, the wind was whipping. It felt like a monsoon outside. Plus, there are jitters always with a live show.
Chapter 3: What challenges did the team face on the day of the show?
But we were excited, and we were excited to have a sellout crowd. The soundcheck went fine, and then I rehearsed some cues with the band. They sounded great. No problems whatsoever. I I started my final prep, which mostly consists of sitting somewhere alone, going over my notes for a show like this. I write a short monologue. In this case, it was about how L.A.
and New York may look like such different places, but how they have a lot in common. They're both places where people come to invent themselves or reinvent themselves. I always think the great line from E.B. White, no one should come to New York to live unless he is willing to be lucky. And I would argue the same is very much true for Los Angeles.
So I'm going over my monologue notes, going over my notes for the Ari and RJ interviews. And then Ari arrives early. He is always early. I recently heard a story about a Zoom meeting that someone had with him that was supposed to start at 2.30 a.m. And by the time they joined at 2.30, Ari had come and gone. The meeting was over.
For tonight, he had promised us 40 minutes on stage, but with a hard out, he had a plane waiting to take him to New York for the Saturday Night Live 50th anniversary celebrations. So anyway, Ari gets to the theater early. He's backstage. He is incredibly fun and interesting to talk to, a total live wire. It is true that some people are intimidated by him.
He was recently voted the most feared agent in Hollywood. Big surprise. Anyway, then R.J. Cutler shows up, totally different energy from Ari, less rat-a-tat, but obviously lovely. And the two of them are getting along nicely, which is not a bad thing for me. So I'm feeling good. And then I notice something strange. The theater is quiet. By now, the doors should be open.
The audience should be settling in. And our pre-show playlist should be playing. I put this one together myself. There was some Thelonious Monk, some Arcade Fire, a piece from Handel's Messiah. Long story. And also some music specific to tonight's guests. For RJ, we're playing Young Gravy's Martha Stewart and Ocean Eyes by Billie Eilish.
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Chapter 4: How did the team try to overcome technical failures?
RJ made a great film about Billie called The World's A Little Blurry. And for Ari, we're playing Superhero by Jane's Addiction. That was the theme song from Entourage. At least we're supposed to be playing all those songs. Instead, there is no sound coming out of the speakers. And then when I look out from behind the curtain, I see there are no people in the seats either. So what's happening?
It turns out that the theater's PA system had crashed. We had been told earlier that it was a new system, state-of-the-art, but, well, I don't know what happened. The next hour was pretty chaotic. The microphones aren't working, speakers aren't working, keyboard player can't get any sound out of his keyboard setup. There's a grand piano backstage.
We start trying to wheel it out onto the stage, but it's missing a wheel. So that doesn't work. Meanwhile, Ari Emanuel, the most famous agent in show business, is waiting backstage. What the f*** are these people doing? He's saying. We're getting close to showtime. The theater is still empty. It turns out they didn't want to let anyone in while they're trying to fix the PA system.
As I later learned, some ticket holders were left standing outside. in the cold rain, Finally, they opened the doors and people started filling the seats. We still didn't have a PA system. At some point, I take the stage to speak with the crowd. And people see me. They start clapping. They think the show is starting. And I announce as loudly as I can that, no, the show is not starting yet.
Chapter 5: What was Ari Emanuel's reaction to the chaos backstage?
We don't have a sound system. And then I ask people in the back rows of the balcony if they can hear me without mics. And they shout, yes, they can. So that's a good sign. I mean, these old theaters were built before amplification, so maybe we can pull it off without mics. Ari, meanwhile, is getting even antsier backstage. He says, let's just do it without mics. I can shout.
So that's the new plan. We're going to do the show as best as we can without a PA system. The band is getting ready. Still no mics, still no keyboards. And I have no idea if the video clips we had planned to play during the show are going to work. And then suddenly, the system starts working again, at least partially. By now, it's way past the scheduled start time.
So we hustle up, we wish each other good luck, and we start the show. The monologue goes pretty well. And then I introduce Ari. He comes out and we have a pretty sassy conversation, covers everything from Donald Trump to Elon Musk to open AI to the Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni mess and a lot more. He stays for nearly an hour. He's a real pro and a good sport.
And then I do a quick AMA and ask me anything with a member of the audience named Christina. She asks me how I came up with the sign off for this show. Take care of yourself. And if you can, someone else, too. It is a question I wasn't expecting. And I tear up as I tell the story because I started using that sign off pretty early on.
In the pandemic, my wife had been very sick with COVID and we hadn't been sure that she would recover, but she did. And that line just came to me, like when you're writing a line to a song and it stuck. After the AMA, we bring out R.J. Cutler, and he's just great, thoughtful and personal. He's telling great stories about himself and all the people he has embedded himself with over the years.
We play some clips from his films, and even that works out okay. So I finish up with R.J., we say some thank yous, then we say goodnight. The audience claps. They seem to enjoy it, although I couldn't really tell how good the show was. Live shows... are always a bit of a blur, but this one even more so because of the circumstances.
It struck me as a bit of a miracle that the show ended up happening at all. So we hang out for a little bit more at the theater and then we go to a little after party, mostly friends and family, maybe 40, 50 folks, including my daughter who just moved to LA last year after college. Honestly, she was a big reason I wanted to do a show out here in the first place.
So we're eating, we're drinking, we're laughing now about how close we came to having no show at all. And that's when our excellent editor, Ellen Frankman, comes up to me with a look on her face that I couldn't quite figure out. In retrospect, she looked really ill. She was shaky. Her face was pale. So I asked her, what's wrong?
And she tells me that in addition to the audio failures we had earlier, there was another even bigger failure. The show had not been recorded, she says. And I didn't understand. I asked her to repeat herself. She said they didn't record the show. And I still didn't quite understand. I mean, I've been recording stuff for many years now. I was a musician and I used to work in all kinds of studios.
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