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Yes, Germany's bravest unemployed. At Fest und Flauschig, at Spotify, at Apple Podcasts, at RTL Plus, at Deezer and Podimo. On Sunday, 10.11.2024. Arnold Dübel was once Germany's bravest unemployed. Here is Germany's bravest employee, Olli Schulz.
Einen wunderschönen guten Morgen von meiner Seite. Mir zugeschaltet Jan Böhmermann. Es ist mal wieder soweit, nachdem wir letzte Woche unsere legendäre Live-Sendung endlich ausgestrahlt haben.
Legende.
Legende. Legende. Sind wir heute wieder für euch da mit einer ganz prühwarmen Sendung. Wir haben natürlich die aktuellen Ereignisse auf dem Zettel. Wir haben so viel. Wollen wir trotzdem erstmal mit einem leichten Thema anfangen?
Ja, erst mal. Du siehst gut aus. Du siehst auch gut aus. Du hast gute Haut heute. I was put on make-up, I had a strong make-up, also from my work, and also a little private, and then I put on make-up very hatefully, because I had family visits, and then I was too lazy, because I didn't experience make-up like ladies, for example.
Then you look in the mirror in the morning and think, why do I still look so awesome? Oh, that's the rest of the make-up from the evening before.
I already heard the sentence today, say, do you have smokey ice? Yes, I didn't really put on make-up. Just briefly, so I don't forget, that was the intro by Ben Schütte, Arno Dübel, the Elmshorn version. Thank you very much, greetings, Ben Schütte, thank you for the great intro. It rarely fits better than today, because Arno Dübel is officially dismissed as Germany's bravest unemployed.
He is of course Christian Lindner now. Or in the broadest sense, Germany is unemployed in a way.
Not really, but the captain is slowly leaving the sinking ship.
Who was the captain at the Ampelregierung?
I don't know, but I'm thinking of Tom Schilling with the Litera Titanic. The rats leave the sinking ship, but the captain in the smoking doesn't pay attention to them.
And I don't know why.
But let us be the captain in the smoking today, why not? That we at the moment, as a transitional solution, that we govern the country. I'll take a look at the constitution for a moment.
Protokollare. Zwischen einer angekündigten Vertrauensfrage und dem Stellen der Vertrauensfrage ist der zweiterfolgreichste Podcast Deutschlands verantwortlich für die Regierungsgeschäfte. Hab ich gerade gedacht, ist so ein Schattenparagraph.
Das ist genau, das ist damals wie in diesen Western aus den 50er Jahren mit John Wayne, wenn dann irgend so ein Dödel, so ein Alkoholiker, so ein Hilfssheriffstern irgendwie angehängt bekommen hat, weil die anderen alle weggeschossen worden sind. Und der durfte dann neben dem Sheriff irgendwie eine Zeit lang die Stadt regieren. That's how we do it too.
We do it, but we start with the ones that are passed on to us. We are now in the office until the question of trust is asked. So a lot has happened this week. I didn't sleep much because we have to work a lot. I'm still a little hot. You, on the other hand, I would like to talk about that first before we take care of the current world and federal politics. You were once again a New York City boy.
I saw you in the Instastory of Heidi Klum. And not only I saw it, but a lot of people sent it to me. Tom, was that Olli? Tom, was that Olli? Tom, behind this party. Olli. Details. Details. I want to know everything now.
No, I don't want to this time. We're in such a difficult phase right now that I can't travel to New York with my good mood. No, listen to me. What the fuck is this? Hey, people have already written to me. Welcome to the elite, Olli Schulz. I hope you feel comfortable between all these children's blood-drinking...
It was of course fall break, I was in New York for a week and I'll tell you how it is, Jan, right at the beginning. I said before, I have in the summer, in the black box, that's where I always rehearse before I go on tour, coincidentally met Tom and Bill again. They rehearsed next to me, we met at the parking lot. And then they said, you're also back in New York in autumn.
I said, yes, great, then you can come to the Halloween party again. I said, yes, yes, I can do that. But I had already planned on my flight not to report to Tom and Bill. Because I was there last year, told a huge story here and somehow thought, now report there again. Hello, by the way, I'm also in New York. That comes so asshole-like. I also thought, once Halloween party is enough to be there.
And now it comes, I get on the plane, I flew. I wanted to get on the ship first, but everything was full. That's why I flew. and sits there in the plane and do you know who gets in the plane? Tom and Bill. Tom and Heidi. But what have you done? For those of you who are jealous of food and want to accuse me of something.
But why were they with you in Economy? I don't understand at all.
I flew business class to Economy, I collected miles and actually got a flight relatively affordable price for business class. You were in the last place. I'll just tell you now. You can all write to me what kind of pig capitalist I am. My DMs are open for your criticism. And Then the two get in and sit right next to me. I'm sitting in the middle console. Directly Heidi and Tom.
I think, that doesn't exist now. And then they don't see me and of course both get their asses licked by the Lufthansa employees. First of all, hello Mrs. Klum here in Bloody Mary. Then I stood up and stood next to them and said, I would also like to thank the entire crew for flying with us. And then they look at me, start laughing and we're just happy that we happen to meet there.
I can tell you, I've liked Tom for a very long time, Bill too. Heidi too. Heidi, I've never really talked to Heidi. Last year she put on this bird costume, which she made so unapproachable, which also looked a bit creepy. And then I tried to make contact with Heidi, it didn't work. She didn't need any security, she just needed her big costume.
This time, however, we sat together with the pilot, we kept each other company and it was very nice. Now I'm supposed to say something else. Sorry guys. Ich weiß, ihr wollt jetzt, dass ich Roger Willimsen-mäßig nochmal abgehe und sage, Heidi Klum, das geht alles gar nicht klar.
Wir haben uns sehr nett unterhalten und dann sagt Heidi irgendwann im Laufe des Fluges, beziehungsweise Tom, einer von beiden, wir machen übrigens eine Pizzeria auf mit Flavio, hast du nicht Lust zur Eröffnung zu kommen? Because if there is something to eat for free, I am definitely there. Then I arrived on Monday on Tuesday because I thought it was a stand-in pizza. I didn't think anything of it.
I went there in my alternative pulley and had the seat right next to Heidi and Tom. But on such a big table. I thought, oh shit, now I'm sitting right here. In the middle of the tornado. And then there was pizza. Then there was jongliert with pizza dough. It was a big mess. I was sitting in between. Heidi filmed. There is this recording where I'm being filmed.
I even screened it. I usually only do that with wild videos of Anna Maria and Bushido. I recorded it with screen recording to ensure that it really happened.
You can also see that I'm slightly surprised by the recording. And also thought, wow, this is really ... Here is a different room temperature. And I'm not really that active yet. Still, it was just very nice. And I sat there with Tom, talked to him about music production for a long time. That's the best anyway. I was also invited.
This time I was dressed as Mad Max, as an apocalyptic end-time warrior, if I remember correctly. I'll make it a little shorter this time. At the party and I was there with Tom and Bill. I was really happy to meet them. For a very long time, while everyone around us was really escalating, having a party, we talked about music production, about different possibilities.
But the best thing was that Tom opened his laptop during the flight and wanted to see a Garage Band and cut something. And I said, Tom, what are you cutting? He said, our podcast. And I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, I always cut it myself. I'm like, what are you doing? You're cutting, and then he cut the whole flight, the Bill Kaulitz and Tom Kaulitz Hollywood Hills podcast himself.
He's got the... On GarageBand? Or what else is there? What are the other programs called? I use Audition. I use Adobe Audition. Something, so in any case, on such a cut program he started to cut the show. I mean, I always do that from the beginning myself. So someone has to have the control. There I said, that's not the case with Jan and me, that someone has the control.
There we still have someone, because we also care about people.
Or we know that it is smarter, because checks and balances are important to us, that we hand over the control to someone who is really able to take control in contrast to us.
I was at the party. It was a good party. The party was better than last year. And then I walked around there. And then there is a so-called VIP area. Heidi and Tom are this year as ET couples.
I've already seen it. Very spectacular costume. Somehow sweet almost. We already had this worm. I found it a bit scary. The egg and the bird, I found that a bit strange too. But this year it was totally cute. Mega elaborate. It looked totally crazy. So really crazy.
This is always crazy. And then ... I go in the direction of the closed VIP area within the club. This time in the Hard Rock Cafe in Times Square. Not a cafe, but a Hard Rock Hotel near Times Square. I come in there, just go in the direction of the VIP area to have a look. And then the manager or personal assistant of Heidi sees me and says, Olli Schulz, he has to come in. He has to come in.
And then I was brought in there. And then Bill sits there in an insanely good costume.
As a universe, he is great. Yes, dressed up as the universe.
It looked really great. I'm really happy and stood next to Bill and next to Tom the whole evening. There is a video on TikTok where Bill and I talk very closely into each other's ears. The reason for this is that we just barely understood each other because the music that the guy from The Roots put up was hellishly loud.
And for some people it came across as if we were flirting, as if we were really...
But I can imagine that about you too. You're in an age where you're just a little bit happy to experiment. And Bill is in an age where you always want to settle down. Bill wants to come to a safe harbor and you want to experiment a little bit. And maybe he'll meet you right in the middle.
I also think that looked very good. And we also got closer that evening. But that's supposed to be exactly day 24 and describe what happened in all other media. And we really talked for a long time, either with Tom or with Bill. We looked at each other all evening, stood around, drank something, it was very nice, at half past four I was in bed, slightly drunk and just had a nice evening.
I still haven't entered the elite yet, because it was probably an absolute ... I usually don't have much to do in such circles. But when I have the opportunity to have a good evening and I'm already in New York, of course I like to take that with me and I was really happy to see them. It was like, if you do it two years in a row, like old buddies that go to an evening together.
It's a bit like commenting on the Eurovision Song Contest two times in a row. On the first time you're so excited that you don't even notice anything. On the second time you can enjoy it a bit more, if I'm in parallel somehow... Israel-Gaza-Conflict. That's where all the snipers sit on the roof. I'm so looking forward to the ESC in Basel.
Because for the third time, I think, if we should be there again one day in the next year, then I think we can enjoy it a little more. But I think it's nice that you tell us about your trip.
Yeah, I could do that a lot more. But I think, even in times when so much has just happened, I just want to make a short review today. But thank you very much again for the invitation, I was really happy.
Yes, I have the first topic directly on the note. And then, well, the second topic, after we briefly talked about New York, I just said it, the Eurovision Song Contest, because a lot has happened there as well. The sad years at the ESC for Germany are now over, because now comes the man who dominates the show business in Germany like no other, Stefan Raab.
managed to convince the NDR, together with RTL, to contest the Eurovision Song Contest. And then I can tell you a little story, because it could actually have been different. Do you know how it could have been?
That we do that?
It could have been that maybe, so hypothetically, it could have been that from the beginning, that you would have thought, we will now let the four major broadcasters of Germany compete against each other at the next Eurovision Song Contest. Publicly, the ARD. Then ProSieben, Joko and Klaas, for the ARD, why not, for example, for the ARD, an open legal hanging sign with their own band.
Who do we take? Maybe Jan Böhmermann and the Rundfunk Tanzorchester, they choose the songs for the ARD. For ProSieben, they chose Joko and Klaas. For VOX, it's the Dein Song Jury. And then RTL is also part of it, maybe DSTS or something else. And then you would have had the Battle of the Sender. And then at some point Stefan Raab came and then everyone else said, come on, let's do it alone.
Imagine, that would have been like that. And now Stefan Raab is still with ARD and they are doing the Eurovision Song Contest together. I'm really happy and I'm excited to see what comes out of it. Are you really happy? I know exactly, German entertainment is always the most beautiful when people remember together how it was 20 years ago.
That's exactly the kind of progression that Germany needs right now, the security of 20 years. Better start nothing new, better remember how it was 20 years ago and so we just do it again. I'm totally excited. I also know that Thomas Gottschalk with his stick walking around and telling how cool it used to be, that's also successful, that's also entertainment.
And I think we don't need anything else right now.
Because the future is so strange for the people to grasp, that they all like to live backwards at the moment. In a time when you don't know what the future brings, you hang or you hold on to everything. I watched TV totally on Wednesday.
I didn't see it, I didn't see it yet.
I watched it. And I have to say, we can continue to get excited about Thomas Goldschlag for a few more weeks, but the fact is that this is now also really an older gentleman. That's what you noticed very clearly. He was supposed to moderate this quiz show at the end. He was supposed to moderate it. And he really did.
I'm sorry to say that, but most of the time he just grinned at the audience and didn't really know when he had something to say. It would have been better if there were no old people on stage. And this whole argument about Thomas Gottschalk is really exhausting for me. Yes, it's not all that smart, of course. I think we still have a lot of problems, except for Thomas Gottschalk making big deals.
But isn't that interesting? You see, we've developed a nice, interesting idea that out of fear of the future or out of uncertainty, we really cling to the few things that we believe are somehow good and that we somehow manage to hold on to them. That we really jump back in terms of entertainment somehow 20 years ago, because everything is so uncertain. This week was definitely really tough.
Stichwort Unterhaltung. Wir haben die Sendung dreimal umgeschmissen, weil so viel passiert ist, dass Trump gewinnt. Erstmal, das letzte Mal haben wir gemeinsam eine Wahl-Cookparty gemacht, eine amerikanische, vor acht Jahren, als Trump gewählt wurde. Und ich hab gedacht, um diesen Fluch von damals zu brechen, machen wir wieder eine Wahl-Cookparty.
Now in the meantime I think that Trump is always elected when we have a party because it was really an absolute disaster event. I had an extra Mexican buffet somehow organized and there were nachos and it was mega delicious.
Everyone was really happy, there were 50 people there and in the course of the evening, of course, we all hung up all the nerds in some forums where you already got the tendency of the evening and so on. We watched CNN from the beginning, got into it again with the El Hotzo documentary, because none of us has an RTL Plus subscription.
And everyone knew that we had produced it and produced it together, but no one could watch it because we all didn't have an RTL Plus subscription. Then we got into it and then we started watching CNN. And then the voice tipped off so slowly in the evening.
And then around two, half past three in the night, because it was all super late, you noticed that the first ones were so huddled around, they would rather go home, because they had the feeling that there would be nothing left. And then I was still with three other colleagues at the end, so at four o'clock at night.
And all of a sudden you were all naked?
No, unfortunately not. I had planned to sleep in a company again, because I thought, like last time, it was really cool. But when I fell asleep on the sofa, I remembered that it was really shitty last time. And I already fell asleep with the feeling, shit, dude, now they really voted for Trump. And this time I didn't even think, shit, now they really voted for Trump, what's going to happen now?
But shit, they really did it again. And I know exactly what's going to happen now. And it's going to get much worse than before. Because this time Trump was of course prepared. And the people who have shamed themselves around Trump have also really stood up. The next four years will not be exactly like the first four years, but it will be much worse. I think it will be much quieter.
He doesn't have to keep hitting on the shit, but he has 10,000 employees who now ... People who are in the administration, in the American authorities, are replaced.
The people have now been put to the right and will now screw around in the constitution and of course try to put the four years to an end. I really think so.
Exactly, so it won't go to an end, because that's fortunately still on our side. And I found it interesting how then at some point ... I started playing religious categories. The most common, loud-spoken sentence of the evening was just, oh God, oh God, oh God. Oh God, oh God, oh God.
I'm not cynical or anything, no one is really cynical, but you thought, people, to be honest, oh God, oh God, oh God. So that it becomes so clear, I wouldn't have thought.
I wouldn't have thought that either. But it was already relatively, from the feeling here, a few days ago. I also talked to a lot of people in New York, of course. And also people, I also have a few friends there who live there and have already told me that they have a bad feeling. Because it's just the way it is at the moment.
This is also such a, how do you say it, that maybe it wasn't so smart that so many celebrities were still so strong in the end. And of course there was this tendency from the people, if millionaires want to tell us who to vote for, we will vote for the other. Yes, yes, then we want another millionaire, then we want the orange millionaire, then we know what we have.
And the problem has simply been that Kamala Harris maybe, and that is, I have just read, Joe Rogan as a choice helper at Spiegel, he was actually still a week before Joe Rogan, the still largest podcast, can you like it or not, but has brought him a lot, he has alone on YouTube, I think, 18 million subscribers.
Then he was also with Theo Von, then he was with Alex Friedman and covered the big three podcasts. And Kamala Harris didn't do that. She was with Howard Stern, who is still behind a payment box, I think, and didn't have the same platform.
And in the end, the problem was that Donald Trump had been in the election campaign for a long time, actually the last four years, and called so much that it was for the... It is not meant to devalue, but it was clearer to the simple people what Donald Trump wants and that's what people want more, stop immigration, similar things, you know. And with such populist speeches he just had so long.
In addition, the assassination, we can now celebrate everything, but in the end you knew more what Donald Trump wanted than what Kamala Harris wanted. And that's also a problem, that maybe you've held on to Joe Biden for too long and didn't start with another presidential candidate or a candidate before. And so you somehow had the feeling that people had been shooting at Trump for a long time.
That's what I was told. And that's all shit. Nevertheless, I have to say, I scrolled around the internet the next day and saw a lot of crying people. And I think, of course, that's a shock. Of course, it will change a lot and probably also to the negative. But there is no other solution but to try to do the best out of it and maybe to stick together.
Sounds very placative now, but maybe it's still right now. So to put your head in the sand completely and now to film yourself crying or to record a podcast crying, which some colleagues have also done.
Who recorded a podcast crying?
Podcast? German? Yes, we were played things.
Crying people?
Crying people.
Okay, I saw Luisa Neubauer, who somehow did a election campaign for Kamala Harris. Sorry, I have to say that very briefly.
I don't have anything against this woman, but this is really not to be overdone with narcissism.
the same. I saw that and thought, I can understand why you do that, but you unfortunately smell, even as a used person, you unfortunately smell that the priority list is perhaps a little bit confused.
And I don't know if you can now somehow with camera team from door to door, if there are not perhaps more urgent problems and perhaps also other people, whether it is perhaps helpful, the energy that you put into your own self-actualization, maybe to distribute to more people, because I think that's what it comes down to now, above all.
So not just keeping together, that's also such a flask, but I think that you can out of this madness. I mean, he's a fascist, he's a racist, he's a convict, a criminal offender, a criminal offender, he's a reckless economic criminal. It's completely insane to vote for him, it's completely indisputable. But now, again in four years, to fall into a tangle or hold something together.
No, it has to come from that at some point that you really do something. And it's always said easily and yes, yes, in the podcast there is talk and you always say yes, but when, if not now? And now they are in power. I think a positive thought is also not so really positive, but if you, if you exclude many substitutes, now Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are on the zenith of their power.
On the actual zenith of your work. You always thought it could get worse, but now it's even worse. But now, for me, such a, not such an excitement has set in, but such a certain cold with a look at it and such a certain pragmatism, now not in the sense of you have to deal with it now, but you have to accept that this is the reality and not an exceptional appearance.
And always these whispers like, we Americans are not like that. No, no, you are like that. You're like that. Obviously you're like that. And not 100,000 or with a small majority, but with a large majority. And everyone actually saw it coming. And those who didn't see it coming didn't want to have it true. America is not like that. Yes, America is like that.
It's not like that, it's like the big European metropolis and when you're there, you get a different side. So there was already, with all the people I talked to, the great fear that Trump was going to run.
America doesn't really consist of New York, but consists of a lot of big states with very conservative approaches, where weapons rights are still there, where you can go to the supermarket with a colt and similar things.
And that is just, we forget that very quickly, that America is now also a country that is very backward or nationalist and is now of course holding on to it in such economic crises and then doesn't feel like it anymore, swirled around again, as it is so beautifully called. And then you somehow stick to the American constitution. which will probably be rebuilt by someone you've chosen.
And the same thing, I hope, that's always the danger. You always see a parallel to Germany.
Yes, but fortunately there are other things. And I think, first of all, the realization, that's obviously what we're dealing with now. And that doesn't mean that you're going to break all the bridges, that you're going to raise the contacts. But I think you just have to be clear and above all now really look around Europe and look at what is happening here.
I wrote down a few comforting thoughts that have helped me a bit in the last few days. It's the hope podcast. Maybe a little bit, but thoughtful thoughts from which you can maybe develop new things.
Because if a continent has made it, of course with millions of deaths and wars, but at least if a continent has experience with it, different interests in partly bloody, that doesn't necessarily have to be again, but in dispute, then somehow to moderate so that you become one, if even fragile, but at least... Now, since almost 100 years, a stable intermediate solution has come, then it is Europe.
We have it longer than the United States of America. We are much more experienced in dealing with each other and also with the moderating of different interests. And we have to, I think, from this experience, really look at how we can do it, to stand up closed to the outside. Because now we are, I have the feeling, we are stuck.
We have an irrational player on the western side, an irrational player on the eastern side and another irrational player from our perspective on the eastern side. And there is no such thing as a definition of who we are. And so far we have not really had the real need to develop that.
And I always find that in negotiations or even if you, I don't know, there is a nice sentence, if you want to negotiate and want to be successful, then you really have to think like that. And I didn't have the feeling that we were at a point so far Where we could really say, we mean it that way, because the necessity didn't really feel like a necessity to us.
I would like to describe it like that. My problem is what I see in it is that I think, look Jan, since the Second World War, we have been using armaments. It has been the largest time span ever in Europe without war. There was of course the Yugoslavian War, if we don't forget. But it was still the most peaceful time here. It was actually completely about disarmament until two years ago.
Suddenly it all changes, the language changes, suddenly the way of life changes. You see that suddenly a lot of nationalist and also a lot of reactionary forces are back in the forest. I mean, when you see Friedrich Merz is at the CDU, the candidate who is just waiting for it, that he just hopes that now his big hour hits. And if he's lucky, then he might still come to power.
And I don't know if... I don't know if he's lucky, it's completely out of the question that Friedrich Merz will be the next chancellor. How should it be otherwise? What do you think it will be otherwise?
Robert Habeck is still a great hope.
I'm sorry if I just wanted to say that. Did you see him with the Taylor Swift band on Twitter again? Robert has been on Twitter since last Thursday or Friday night. Dude, I don't know. I understand the intellectual approach of Robert Habeck. I don't know if they...
I don't know if these many sidequests and this very meta... But would you rather have Friedrich Merz as Robert Habeck than as chancellor? No, no, I'm a party... I'm floating over the parties.
We can't afford to take sides in these times.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Ricard Francesco Rosinetti. Isn't it Omnipuri? Omnipuripur. Omnipuri.
Omnipuri sounds like a new candy from China. But they only sell it in Europe, because it's too poisonous. But, um... Listen, listen. He has also stepped back.
They are no longer chairmen. Yes, yes.
They have also stepped back. Shit, guys, it doesn't work anymore. It is of course the party that is currently... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... But that doesn't bring you back to look back. Nevertheless, I think that's just the way it is. And even Helmut Schmidt has said that Europe has to be careful. This is the great time of re-election for Europe.
And because we are so split up internally and didn't manage it as Europe. And then you also have to blame Merkel. Yes, I won't stop. Let me talk about it. Let me talk about it at the end. But the constructive podcast, we can't look back.
Yes, but let me talk about it at the end. This is so long already, so long, on such a long way, if we look back.
That we have somehow torn ourselves apart more and more, that there is no European unity that you can build on right now. And that's the problem. And if you look at it more realistically, I don't see it as it looks like we've just taken off from the USA, but everyone is desperate to see that our big partner is being led by someone who doesn't feel like Europe and Germany anymore.
I don't know what it looks like, but rather crumpled with Putin. And that's how you can now try to turn everything positively. But I lack the so-called basis to believe that we as Europe could now do it. And that's why I have a completely murky feeling for the next few years.
bin ich ganz froh, dass wir gerade als Land Deutschland nicht in der Lage sind, hier den quasi das Selbstbewusstsein, was wir jetzt finden müssen, so superdeutsch zu dominieren. Es geht doch nicht um superdeutsch, es geht um europäisches Grundgefühl. Es geht jetzt darum, dass Europa...
It manages to look forward closed and self-consciously and to assert itself against the new blocks that are no longer in friendly connection with us like the last 80 years, but obviously in competition, in a kind of competition and in any case no longer in unconditional adhesion, although it was never unconditional. And I'm very happy.
That we don't have a federal government in this phase of the new order with a racist or some completely insane at the top. Can still come. Can still come. But Friedrich Merz is also not a racist and not a completely insane. Just like Robert Habeck or Olaf Scholz, the other probable chancellor candidates. But I find it amazing that you suddenly agree with Friedrich Merz.
No, I'm not satisfied at all.
You're just getting over it. No, I'm not satisfied, but if you look at it, we have 34% in the current polls. Of course, if a question of trust is asked in January, which is also awesome. We haven't even talked about what happened. In the morning there were the election results. Woke up, completely tired, slept in the company. And then all day, dude, one fucking e-mail after the other.
And then in the evening these press conferences. I watched so much Phoenix. I didn't even take my cell phone with me. I just watched Phoenix. I watched Phoenix press conferences. And that was spectacular, that Olaf Scholz on last Wednesday The government let it burst, or rather Christian Lindner threw it out and then the government burst.
And all day long at BILD.de you checked, oh, tonight is somehow coalition committee and Christian Lindner is doing one of his stunts again. And again a cell phone somehow with Axel Springer, through violence always. I have at the BILD show just once, I'll just let you walk with me. Is it okay for you if we do the coalition committee during that time? That's how it was the last time and again.
And then in the evening, things turned out quite differently, because Christian Lindner obviously could not imagine that other people also have thoughts behind them and maybe also think strategically like him. And then he was so completely perplexed that he was thrown out. And then it was of course about who makes the press conference first, who sets the message first.
And I thought, okay, dude, now Scholz really threw him out, he let it fall for years, he just pulled the plug. And then there were really these live feeds from the FDP's parliamentary hall in the Bundestag and next to it in the Kanzleramt. I just thought, who comes out first? Who comes out first, he expected that to happen.
And it was of course Scholz, because Christian Lindner had to sort himself out first, because he obviously couldn't imagine that someone would notice that he had been on the phone with the Bild-Zeitung for years while he was sitting in the coalition and running some other side quests. And then Olaf Scholz came out and the first thing I thought was ... Dude, why is this so cool performed?
Would there be a teleprompter there? Because that's my job. My job is to read from the teleprompter every week.
My job is to read from the teleprompter every week.
That's why I immediately see when people work with the teleprompter. It can't be. I've never heard a politician say such a perfect thing in such a situation. That's why we're always stumbling around, looking at the sheet and Angela Merkel's around. And then he really looked around in a circle. And then they showed a total from time to time. What is a teleprompter?
Until then, at some point, a colleague of mine circled it, made a screenshot. Look, he has these American teleprompters standing there. These, you know, these plexiglass things. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I've been told from government circles, from the highest government circles, Olaf Scholz has only been on the road with these teleprompters for months and everyone is very jealous, would also like to do it, but they can't. So they can't do it from the teleprompter. There's only one and there's only the Kanzler teleprompter and that's Olaf Scholz.
But teleprompter, that's a really small excursion. Teleprompter is a science for itself. Der Teleprompter beim Fernsehen, das ist quasi ein Gerät, wo man einen Moderationstext so vor die Kamera gehalten bekommt, dass man mit so einem gekippten Spiegel in die Kamera schaut und es sieht so aus, als würde man die Leute anschauen, aber in Wirklichkeit liest man die ganze Zeit einen Text ab.
Und dieser Text, der wird natürlich von einer Person gesteuert, weil man muss ja immer genau, also einen kleinen Ausschnitt, und der Ausschnitt muss, den man gerade vorliest, genau in dem Moment da zu sehen sein, wenn er vor... If you have it in front of you. That's totally difficult. There are very few people who can control these teleprompters. The software for these teleprompters is super old.
That's not modern software, but that's really all Windows 3.11 and stuff. For us, for example, it's, shout out at this point, Teleprompter Frank. Prompter Frank, we call him. Frank is... A television milestone. Greetings, Frank.
Did you work for Tonmann, Frank, or what?
No, Prompter Frank, without Prompter Frank, the German television would collapse. Among other things, Heidi Klum. When she moderates the final at Germany's Next Topmodel, then Prompter always sits on Prompter Frank. Because there are three in Germany who do that. And Prompter Frank is one who is always with us. The next day he is somehow, I don't know, with Günter Jauch or wherever he is.
Everyone uses Prompter Frank and Prompter Frank... Without them, nothing works. And I wonder if in politics, when the prompter is introduced, if it's like that now, if he's in his ... Olaf Scholz has to have someone in his staff who turns the prompter. So he always turns the text at the point. He definitely prompted.
And then Christian Lindner came out and I don't know if it was a calculation, if he was really shocked, or if he rubbed his eyes with tears. Then you thought, what is this? Is he playing the full range of feelings now? Of course, you had to think directly of the old story. Was man sich auch nicht vorstellen kann, aber wenn Hitler nicht mehr weiter wusste, hat er geweint.
Haben wir, glaube ich, schon mal drüber gesprochen. Weißt du, dass du... Der Führer hat angefangen zu weinen, er will einen Holocaust mit sechs Millionen Toten. Völlig zynisch und gemein, aber dass dann jemand, der immer so...
determined and outwardly self-confident and selfishly appears in such moments of defeat, suddenly stands there with watery eyes, I don't know exactly if I should take it from him, I'll be honest, or if it really breaks together. He stood there so watery and was really angry. And then the Greens came out. The Greens came out as second.
And then Annalena Baerbock and Robert Habeck, as so often, stood at the exit of the chancellor's office in front of such a metal grid. They looked like they had just been released from the JVA Wiesbaden. And so light-headed and somehow swallowed up the words. Both always in moments, when it comes to it, always important to say the words to the end. It is now a historic press conference.
Speak your words out. And there you really have to say, performance points to Olaf Scholz, of course. I found it spectacular, of course prepared. I thought the cool thing about it, he prepared it and Linden obviously didn't see it coming. And you're like, what? Why didn't you see that coming, dude? Do you think you're the only one who has any side-talks or what? That's what I thought.
You have to understand Christian Lindner a little bit. He has privately, I mean, Frank Liefeld has done an incredible amount of promotion for Trump and has officially become known for Trump. He has criticized Taylor Swift and the like. And at home, of course, he also has a lot of pressure because he wants to be with the beautiful young influencer.
I don't know how beautiful and young she is, but staying with her, but of course you also have to, there is the private and the public life, that collides with Christian Lindner.
Do you think that Friedrich Merz, I can imagine that Christian Lindner might have noticed at that moment that he had been a little tool, that he was actually just a tool for superordinate interests, because his party is at 3% in the polls. Why should he want to re-evaluate? To be honest. And above all, why do you have to do it now?
Why do you pull this shit, it wasn't that long ago, why didn't you just pull it through now? Why is he just trying to re-evaluate now? I don't understand that either. Christian, watch out.
Die Regierung, das geht nicht mehr weiter. Du musst den Schlöpsel ziehen. Du provozierst sie so lange, bis das nicht mehr weitergeht. So, dann machst du jetzt einfach. Das ist auch in unserem gemeinsamen Interesse. Und hinterher fangen wir dich wieder auf. Weil was seit Tagen in der Bild-Zeitung läuft. Ja, hallo, Matthias Döffner hier. Grüß dich, Christian Lindner.
I want to strengthen the FDP, but at the moment it's not possible. We have to help you get out of there.
If you look at the Bild and the Welt, there is one tear-jerking article about Christian Lindner. He just put a fucking template in there and then he was released. Dude, you really saw that coming. And honestly, three years ago. That didn't happen long ago. That's strange. I wonder if Christian Lindner is not just a tool in the end and who might tell him that it could possibly be like that.
There are also supporters of Christian Lindner who say he was the only one who kept his thumb on the debt brake and he just wanted to keep the wasteful style of Olaf Scholz in control. There are of course people from the FDP who claim that. I feel right now, if we talk about it for another 10 minutes, we're losing a lot of people.
But I think in situations like this right now, do you really think it's a good idea to say, we can support Ukraine, but only if we cut the citizen's money? No, man. Adults learn at some point. There is a certain simultaneity of challenges and you have to solve them at the same time. And if you can't do that with the money you have, then you have to see where you get the money from.
Bridges have to be built, even if Russia attacks Ukraine. And you can't just sit on the street in washing machine boxes because you want to save a billion. You have to do it all at the same time. Unfortunately, it's not possible to weigh it up against each other. Well, come on.
In any case, performatively- No, no, you're absolutely right. I just had to, while we were doing this podcast today, realize that I had planned today at the beginning of the show, we actually have the whole- because I knew you had a lot to do this week, we didn't talk at all this week. Und ich dachte, ja, wir machen trotzdem eine Sendung, so wie sie machen, um die Leute zu unterhalten.
Ich kann mich nicht davon freimachen, dass die Ereignisse der letzten Tage, Präsidentschaftswahl und auf einmal, sag ich mal, die Neuwahlen, die jetzt anstehen, mich nicht doch irgendwie berühren, beziehungsweise man auch umso älter man wird jetzt so und sich diese Welt nicht mehr, im jugendlichen Alltag hat man noch genug andere Sachen im Kopf, aber dass mich das doch ganz schön anfasst, dass ich merke, dass ich doch ein etwas bedrücktes inneres Gefühl habe durch diese ganzen Sachen.
And I wouldn't like to have it and say, hey guys, come on, dude, the boat will go under at some point anyway, let's continue to celebrate and enjoy life and stuff like that. No, it's of course the case that you're busy with all this and in the next few years you will definitely make a significant change. You can now do what you want and say what you want.
Unfortunately, we don't know how and where. And then it comes to the fact that I have such a bad feeling when I see how the other power cities, like Poland, like Hungary, with Urban or something like that, how little there are points that bring us together.
And also to see with a president of the USA, who really doesn't feel like Europe or Germany, but rather will probably meet with Putin in the next few days. that these are all really shitty prerequisites. And that makes me somehow, annoys me myself. I would like to be the guy who brings a couple of awesome down-and-out gags to blow it all away. I can't do that right now.
I would like to make a second coffee. I have a lot of topics
Me too, but I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing, I have to say one important thing,
To be so surprised, I thought the performance was only interesting, then he really takes years on his own responsibility and then it comes to his own responsibility and then it suddenly collapses and wants to be saved or something. So that's kind of a bit strange.
Well, I think it's exciting and no one has made a good figure and I'm looking forward to a chancellorship of Friedrich Merz, no matter how long it takes. I wonder with whom, maybe with the BSW, with Sarah Wagenknecht. That would perhaps be the only option after the election. I was very grateful that I didn't get much from the fascists. So they did say something, but it was somehow uninteresting.
And that gave me hope that maybe when Olaf Scholz, Robert Habeck, Friedrich Merz and then somehow one of the Nazis are elected, that it doesn't play a role so much, because the people then pull together again, that it might lead to a bit of... Because they really don't have any solutions at all. And do you want to do it like in America?
Do you want to do it like in America and vote for the fascists? Fortunately, we have a wider range. And I think to myself in the end, what is that?
I sent you something that I wanted to tell you. What is it?
It's in New York.
Do you recognize the actor? I just sent Jan a screenshot to go over the next topic. That's Adam Driver. That's Adam Driver, right. And that was one of my highlights. The day after the Halloween party. I didn't just do celebrity stuff, but did a little bit of culture. Once I was at the musical Wicked. Popular. Hey, that was really great.
It's a classic, it's a bit like the prehistory of the Sorcerer of the East. I looked at it, it's about a witch, a sorceress.
The Sorcerer of the East. Wolfgang Thierse is the Sorcerer of the East.
That's what I looked at and then I was on Friday, the tickets were not quite cheap, in a play by Adam Driver. Adam Driver, whom I really appreciate as an actor, who is really very, very good. I think he did very good things. Marriage Story, that's the film with... Scarlett Johansson. A great film, incredibly performed. And since then I think the guy as an actor is just great.
And I saw him in a piece called Hold On To My Love. Hold On To Me Darling. It's called To Me Darling, exactly. He plays a country singer of the late 30s, quite successful, who learns from the death of his mother in the hotel room.
And the one who, as you can see very quickly, always had affairs all his life, had no really good connection to women and couldn't cope with the death of his mother and tried to make his father, whom he had never met, find out. It really touched me, even though it's actually a funny comedy. The first one and a half hours are really funny, insanely good punchlines.
It starts in this hotel room, his mother dies. He turns around, his manager tells him that and then a masseuse comes in. And it's like a rock'n'roll life. The masseuse is from simple relationships and they start hanging out and he comes with her to a party and starts an affair with her. In a moment of disorientation, he decides to open a small craft shop with his brother.
and to end his career as a musician, to break his tour, the recordings. And then he starts and then the two of them, he and his brother, who comes from simple relationships, so actually both in this small craft shop, then the manager comes in and says, if you stop the tour now, if you stop now, then you will be sued for millions, then you will live your life.
And he tries to get out of this circle of rock'n'roll life, but he can't do it because he has to go back because otherwise he will be sued by all the organizers and the like. It's incredibly dramatic and funny. It's really, you have to laugh a lot, the first two, one and a half hours. That wasn't even on Broadway, it was in West Village, a small theater. East Village, I think. No, West Village.
Or West Village. It was in a beautiful neighborhood, where I hadn't been before, by the way. And the theater, there were 220 people. That was a blast. Absolute mini, a real one.
You just sent me the poster, I just saw the theater and thought that's tiny. I know that.
That's tiny, that's tiny. It was sold out until the last place and the end is really touchy. So the story, there were so many things that I could feel as a musician within this story. He played it sensationally and then there are 220 people sitting there. Really tiny. It was such an awesome, rocked up theater. I see Adam Driver somehow really five meters in front of me.
And that's just really the art that you're not just a TV star or a cinema star, but you can really perform in a theater. Six people play a piece in total. The piece is over. I have a little tear in my eye. The light goes on immediately. Adam Driver stands there with the six people. They bend down once, very briefly, and then they're gone from the stage.
And I thought, dude, this is going to be celebrated here. Adam Driver, but nothing. He's totally serious, he's thanking himself once, the piece is over. I thought, what a performance. I can only recommend it to anyone who is up to December 22nd and is still able to come to New York to watch it in such a small theater, to see such a great, great actor.
And afterwards there are also autographs, there is such a small backstage, there were all the people. I went there because I think I have a lot of similarity with Adam Driver.
Yes, I also liked that. You are very similar. This roughness, this masculinity, it's both.
It's also to see naked in the beginning, except underpants. He doesn't do the whole Lars Eidinger, but he stands there to see. Adam Driver does the Lars Eidinger. Because he doesn't do that. And he doesn't have to put sausage under his forehead. But he definitely performed very well. Before I went there, I was a little too early, I went to our hipster taco shop. What was it called?
Do you remember? I don't remember, but the tacos were sensational. And I had to wait longer, because there were many beautiful young people standing in front of me who were on their way to the nightlife.
Was that a white taco shop? Yes, I know. Really? In a corner like that? In a corner in downtown, right? Yeah, yeah, downtown. Yeah, I know, of course.
And then I went from there to West Berlin.
And it was really, really good.
And I think it was called El Loco or something like that. Yeah, and the tacos were self-made in the back. Yeah, self-made in the back. You could choose vegan tacos, vegetarian tacos, grilled, smoked, barbecue, everything.
And there was a slice of lemon on top, lime on top.
Yeah, you put it on top. You can make it a little spicy yourself. Totally awesome. And I'm standing there and... Only cool people around me. And then you don't feel so cool and you think, oh, they're all 15 years younger than me standing around here. And then I found myself in a magazine where I read a report. At first I did it as if I wasn't reading, because that's how you do it sometimes.
And then I found a report about the gay community in Australia and the music scene. And then I read something about a musician who just released her new album or new songs. Alex the Astronaut from Australia. And then I somehow came up with her name and she really looks like the antithesis of a rock musician or a pop musician.
Completely unglamorous, looks a bit more like someone who does physiotherapy or something like that. Totally funny, totally sympathetic, that was the interview, I read it in a small magazine, I was so surprised that there were magazines lying around, that was the only thing, so I stuck to it.
Then at some point after the piece, her name didn't come to my mind and I listened to her songs on Spotify and they are really good. Then I follow her, somehow I followed her on Instagram and by chance she writes to me afterwards, because she still has very manageable I get a message from her. Thank you for following me. I see you're a musician as well. Blah blah blah. She writes to me like that.
And I thought that was so cool. And I was still in jet lag fever. And we wrote back shortly at night. Road Rage is a song by her. The latest song produced by Gordy. Also an Australian musician. And I think it's an absolute earworm and pop song. Alex the Astronaut with Road Rage. I definitely put it on the list.
Then, very briefly, you should get good music in these difficult times, Michel from WUSO or WUSO Plan B from his new record, very warm greetings, I have also heard more often and longer, he is very passionate on stage. I watched recordings of him, I didn't manage to watch a concert, but he totally goes off with his band and lives his dream a bit.
And no matter if it's full or not, we wrote a few people who just saw him where it wasn't so full, he gave everything on stage. Aki Bosse also told me about him, that's why I put the song Plan B on the Fidi and Bumsi list of his new album. Also, very briefly, you should all be well, I still have a song from the new Lampe, which you absolutely have to hear. And it's called, I hate little eagles.
It's one of my favorite songs from the new Lampe. Lampe, who is my backliner and is a musician himself. My backliner always sounds a bit like that.
He's my backliner.
He's my backliner. And the song is called, but I'm sorry that I have to google it now. Lampe, we already have the Lampe. And the song is called Cute Aggression. Eagles with small socks. Totally good song. I'll put it on the Fidi and Bumsi list, if I haven't put it on yet. I don't think I have it yet.
And with that you have three insanely good, no, and one more, I saw with great joy that Ron Sexsmith finally put his best album Retriever on Spotify. And the song Hard Bugging, which is already 20 years old, by Ron Sexsmith, who is one of the great singers, who never managed to get big, to become successful, but is loved by many people.
With his best record, Retriever, you actually have to listen to the whole record. But the opening song Hard Bargain, which I love everywhere, I would also like to put on the Fidi and Bumsi list. So Jan, do you have music to recommend?
Yes, I actually have a few songs that I would like to put on the list today. On the one hand, I just clicked on it, so it clicked so hectic in the background, a song that I haven't put on yet, but I should have done it a long time ago, namely a very excellent version of the David Bowie classic Live on Mars. By the way, it's from Sophie Anna Kouroussa and it's from the David Bowie musical Lazarus.
I think there was one of his absolute late works, it was a bit of an attempt to do something like the ABBA musical with David Bowie songs, but it didn't really work out because David Bowie is not ABBA. And there's a whole, no, Sophia Ann Caruso is her name, live on Mars.
And I thought at first it was a little girl or a little boy who sings it, because it sounds so bell-like, like Heintje to his best times. And somehow, I don't know, I don't know. There are songs, when they are sung with inbounds, even if it's a bit kitschy, then they touch you at a point where you think, what, dude, how is that? That's what happens to me with the song Sophia and Caruso.
It's a bit sad, a bit melancholic and you hear more in the voice than you heard with Bowie. And that's just such a great song. And then just something completely different, to look a little bit ahead, an old absolute classic, which is also not on our list, namely from Busta Rhymes. And that would be my songs. It may be that a third, maybe even a fourth comes on it. Oh, here it is.
A third one comes from a Japanese artist from the 80s. You can already see on the cover that it's the 80s. It's a bit like a half-TikTok song. You know the hook line, but the whole song itself is also worth listening to. It's Miki Matsubara with Mayonaka No Door or Stay With Me. The cover alone is worth a trip. That would be my three songs. Maybe a few more will come.
And we're going to try in the second half of Fest und Flauschig to continue scratching the yogurt cup and finding hope where there's none left. I noticed, maybe we can talk about it right now, if you know that, that there are sometimes situations where you think at the end of the week, that can't be all that, that it happened like that.
That the things that have always just announced themselves, that were so far away, where you always just noticed parts of it, suddenly merge into a picture and all of a sudden everything makes sense. And I had... In this week again, like a reverse déjà vu actually.
So not that you have the feeling that you have experienced something, but things come together and they suddenly result in a picture that you have only seen in parts so far. I don't know if that's too abstract now, maybe I'll explain what I mean by that in a moment. Maybe not.
That and many other things. For example, we're talking about the new Terrifier, Terrifier 3, the horror film that's currently in the US and Paris, France, on first place.
Super.
It's a low budget. We're talking about that. We're talking about the documentary Black Box BRD. Have you seen it? Of course I've seen it. I'd like to cry a little bit with you in the podcast. We're going to cry too. We're going to talk about my personal problem, about the wasp plague that's going on with me right now. I don't know if that's a problem. No, in Western Germany there are no wasps.
We have here... We have Belgium from time to time and tourists from abroad who want to look at the Cologne Cathedral, but wasps are not annoying with us. They don't exist in North Rhine-Westphalia. Then Henrik Wüst started the anti-wasp agenda in 2024 and since then they don't dare to do it anymore because of the border controls. Then there will be news about our tours that will take place soon.
Really, yes, but more about that will come soon at Fest und Flausch, here on Sunday at Spotify. See you soon.
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We all have a little bit of a shock. Also this show is today much more obvious than usual. I don't want to do that. I want to fight it. That we also make the second part a little happier today.
Yes, I'm shocked. But that's the way it is. A lot has happened this week and we have to somehow work it out. We haven't heard each other live for a week. So much has happened in the meantime.
I also have so many topics that if we don't put them all in the show, I wanted to talk to you briefly about horror movies.
Is that okay for you? That's okay, but I didn't even tell you, that's really my Achilles heel. I don't watch any big movies.
But I also have to talk about one thing briefly. I've been doing this podcast with you for 13 years and I have to step back so often. There are so many passionate topics. You had your own section where I always just kept quiet for years. You have always pressed on all the players and you also have a very good background in terms of metal knowledge, Jan.
You can also think about it, at some point there will be a moment when you will be invited for Wacken, when you are on RTL, your own Jan Böhmermann on Wacken.
Do you know that Wacken was taken over by the big investor KKR, who is also in Axel Springer, who has completely bought the brand Wacken. Really? Yes, KKR, who are in Springer, they bought Wacken. Just completely wacken!
Exactly, and that's why you might one day, for your new employer RTL Plus, also walk across the field with a microphone and say, how's the mood here in Wacken? That's really, metal types, there's a very good theory, I can share it with you right away.
Yes please, gladly.
And that is, metal types are people who dress badly and give, but are good people in the heart.
It's exactly the other way around for me.
And hippies, in turn, are people who dress nicely, but are really bad people deep in the heart. And that's a theory, you can let it affect you, if it's really true. Horror movies, that's what it's about, horror movies. I want to talk to you briefly about horror movies. I know that's not your favorite topic. We'll do it anyway, because I know I can't nerd too much.
Terrifier 3 is the film, the surprise film, a horror gore splatter film with a clown. Art the Clown is the killer. It's really the most brutal thing that's come out for a long time. The first part cost 35,000 euros. You can google Art the Clown so you can take a look at this clown.
Everything stands and falls with this costume and this actor who really has a very nice, it's a sensationally good outfit. The guy, David Thornton, I think his name is David Thornton. He really plays it with absolute passion. And if you're not really suitable for horror movies, this character will follow you into your dreams. You can say that so spectacularly. I saw the first two parts.
The third part, which is really full of brutal scenes. The second was brutal too. The first was brutal too. In the second part there is a scene, I don't even want to, because I know, trigger warning, there are people who are really easy-going when it comes to that. That's why I'm going to let out the explicit things. But before we talk about the film for a moment, I'll do a basic course with you.
I'll tell you a horror film series and you'll tell you what the so-called slasher is called, because Terrifier are also slasher films. Let's start. What's the name of the slasher from Halloween?
heißt Jason Jason. Nein, nein. Michael Myers. Michael Myers.
Jason ist, aus welcher Reihe ist Jason der Slasher?
Weiß ich doch nicht.
Freitag der 13. Nein. Okay, machen wir Texas Chainsaw.
Texas Chainsaw.
There's the name already in the title. Texas Chainsaw Massacre is a heavy metal band. What's it called? Leatherface. Isn't that something from Pierre Brice? Leatherface. Let's do Saw. What's the name of Saw?
Sascha Lobo?
It's called Jigsaw, of course. Jan, I promise you, I'll do it briefly so you can talk about it again. I really watched all horror movies of the 80s and 90s. I also watched perverse shit. There were pictures in my head that were like flakes in my brain. I saw everything from Dance of the Devils to Asian perverse movies. That's also a bit noticeable, to be honest.
Yeah, and I sometimes wonder why I watched it. Things like Man Behind the Sun, Genia Pick and stuff that you could have saved in retrospect. But it's all like that. Boys between 18 and 30 have a so-called fascination for it. There is a so-called test of courage.
And somehow it is also the case with Terrifier that these films have managed to fascinate and appeal a young audience so much that the third part, which I think cost 2.5 million, which is still incredibly cheap, pushed the Joker 2 and all the films to second place and to first place. This is an absolute success. The first part cost 35,000 dollars.
And the guy who shot it, his name is Leone, what's his first name? I don't know, I'm not well prepared. He's an autodidact, he taught himself everything. And in my opinion, sick, Damien Leone, in my opinion, sick, the Terrifier films are also a bit there, that the guy who shoots everything, does everything himself, he makes the cut himself.
And the make-up and the gore effects are really so bloodthirsty that you can really warn anyone who comes close to it. Children are being killed, many women are being killed, it's just a very bloodthirsty world. Do men have to die too? Männer müssen auch sterben in dem Film, auch die werden brutalste Art und Weise umgebracht.
Im dritten Teil, da gibt es Szenen, und das ist natürlich die große Werbekampagne, die so hart sind, wie es noch nie in einem Film der Fall ist, was aber auch nicht stimmt. Ich habe in den 90er Jahren schon Splatter- und Gore-Filme gesehen, die von Blutrünstigkeit also kaum zu überbieten waren. Und auch dieser Film hat natürlich ganz, ganz harte Szenen, aber sie sind mir einfach zu lang.
Das muss man sagen. Dazu kommt, dass die Schauspieler wahnsinnig schlecht sind, und dass der Schnitt nicht gut ist.
Apart from that, the story sucks and the music is miserable.
No, the story, it's really this clown. And you think at the beginning, oh, there's a bit of comedy in it. But the comedy is very fast, because just where the cameras normally swing away, when someone is disassembled, you hold on to it for another two minutes. And if you still think, I want to make something like this again, then I can recommend the first Terrifier to you.
On YouTube there is one in a cut version. On YouTube there is one? Yes, I wonder myself, on YouTube there is also the, I don't even know if I should point out to you, this really brutal scene from the second part, which is really designed for it. I don't even want you to watch it, but I'm a little surprised about this huge success, because that was always an underground scene.
I spent a lot of time in this world. I was more often at the Night of the Bloody Tapes or the Gore Night in various program cinemas in Hamburg and sat there with 99% male audience, many pale boys with pale faces, who have Freddy Krueger posters on the wall and who of course think it's all insanely cool.
If you start a family at some point, have children yourself, then of course you will be a bit more tender. I'm now beyond this point and have gone into this horror world a bit again. But I have to say that I have a divided opinion about these Terrifier films. Because no slasher film should go over two hours. And that goes part two and three. And that's just too long. But it's also very brutal.
I'm just wondering if that with the...
I think that's totally funny. That it's about something like cutting off limbs and splitting people into axes. And you with such a strange financial management mentality. It's unfortunately too long. The story is a bit like a TV game movie. From Olli there's only a middle finger.
I really got a copy of Nightmare 1 when I was 15 or 14. What's the name of the slasher of Nightmare 1? Freddy Krueger. Man, Jan, you have no idea at all. If I had to say that, I would have known.
But honestly, I only know your friends from listening, but I can totally imagine what segment in my shoe class you and your circle of friends would have formed. And we even had a Christian Lindner with us, who came to school with an file case. We had that too. He was probably still in the same class in 1999. Neoliberal shit and hasn't moved away from it to this day and somehow doesn't realize it.
Sorry, we're going straight to the horror movie. I have a super awesome take, I always want to read it briefly, by Özge İnan. Always helpful to see what she has to say.
just writes imagine the most powerful media house in germany breaks every journalistic standard to jazz you up and you still bring it barely to three and a half percent love my ass off would change my name and move to dubai that also surprises me with christian linden that is also a bit of a kind of horror how that can be that he has been fluffed for weeks for years and now still after the shit and still only comes to three and a half percent and then
Inevitably, you think, he's being used by people. The poor Christian Bach is also being used. But from whom is he being used?
From Terrifier, from Art the Clown.
Maybe.
Just to come back to the horror movies. I would like to, for everyone who has seen the third part, I'm really curious, I don't want to see it in the cinema. It is of course also a small sensation that a film, I would say, has managed to suppress all other films in such a sparse way. mich ein bisschen verwundert, ganz ehrlich.
Wer den dritten Teil schon gesehen hat, es soll fünf Szenen geben, am Anfang werden gleich Kinder am Mord, deswegen ist es für mich schon mal so eine Überwindung. Allerdings gibt es auch einen Vorfilm, All Hallows Eve, den habe ich auch gesehen, da geht es auch schon sehr blutrünstig zur Sache.
Ich glaube, dass ich jetzt in dem Alter bin, wo ich auch denn auf die Effekte achte oder ähnliches, aber man muss darauf Bock haben. Was mich einfach tatsächlich verwundert ist, dass diese Reihe gerade wirklich es geschafft hat, to be so successful. Because they are not better than old slasher movies. The only thing that is better is this costume. And this main character is actually a dad.
There is such a cool shot, such a YouTube short, where you can see how he is dressed. And that's really this mask that stands with it and falls. In the new part, Tom Savini, who is a legend in this area, has advised or done the make-ups. He also had a short guest appearance in the film, as I read it. And all of that brought me to read reviews and YouTube interviews.
There are different film reviews. And then I happened to be on a really entertaining one and spent the evening with it, the last evening with it. Thilo Ghosian. That's Simon Ghosian's brother. And I think he works for the Rocket Beans.
Thilo Ghosian is a warm welcome, dear colleague from Cologne. An outstanding media manager, a media maker, he's everywhere.
He's everywhere.
The film club, Bujo Omega. Exactly.
Kino Plus is the name of the whole thing. And I really have two hours, Bela B. invited them. Two hours, two and a half hours they talked to him about his 20 favorite horror films. They didn't quite make it because Bela really talked about it in great detail. I've already talked so much about horror films with Bela.
If there is someone, all classic horror movies, his favorite movies will be discussed. And the whole thing is totally entertaining and makes a lot of fun to watch. I can only recommend everyone who is exactly my age and thinks, I'll do a step visit again in the direction of horror movies and can watch the whole thing. Really a very, very good entertaining show. I didn't have that before.
I don't know much about Rocket Beans or TV stations anyway. But if everything is always so good, I'll watch several episodes. was definitely a very, very good episode. I would like to get some feedback from you. If you've already seen Terrifier 3 and you're my age and you're not a 25-year-old who's like, cool, dude, that clown brings them all over.
If you also have a relatively professional opinion about it, send me a couple of sentences about what you think about it, whether you should look at it, whether it really turned your stomach upside down.
And it's always this advertising, for years, that's what I wanted to get out of it, for years, you manage to lure horror film fans into the cinema or from the screen by telling them, this is the most brutal thing that's ever happened. I think I've seen a lot more brutal things.
I also unfortunately, at some point, ten years ago, when the internet was still a big thing, I saw sick things that I shouldn't have seen. That's why I'm a little stifled. Your opinion would interest me. That was just a little... Abhandlung, weil wir so wenig über sowas reden können.
Ja, leider, aber wir können das verknüpfen mit der Welt des Podcasts, weil ich würde dich ganz kurz mal eben fragen, wer ist denn in der erfolgreichen Horror-Podcast-Reihe Fest und Flauschig der Slasher eigentlich? Von uns beiden. Ja, wer ist denn der Slasher? Wer ist denn von uns der Slasher? Andréas. Susanne und Andreas, die Slash am Hintergrund. Ich geh noch mal weiter durch.
Wer ist der Slasher bei Baywatch Berlin? Ist es Tommy, ist es Jakob, ist es Klaas? Jakob. Bei Sunset Club mit Sophie Passmann und Joko Winterscheidt. Sophie Passmann. Wer ist bei Lage der Nation der Slasher? Ist es Ulf? Ulf. Ulf ist der Slasher. Wer ist der Slasher bei Matze Hilscherl? immer der Gast. Wer ist der Slasher bei Tom und Bill in Kaulitz Hills? Wer ist der Slasher? Heidi.
Wer ist der Slasher bei Ronsheimer, dem Erfolgspodcast von Ronsheimer? Matthias Döpfner. Julian Reichelt.
Julian Reichelt hat sich, jetzt habe ich gelesen, gegen die AfD gestellt. Ich frage mich, wo will der denn das Geld her? Wo kriegt der denn das Geld her, wenn er sich gegen die AfD stellt? Sollen sich auch irgendwie 100.000 Abonnenten oder so von seinem Kanal, nachdem er was gesagt hat gegen Josef Höcke, hat er... Naja, es ist jetzt auch einfach nur mal kurz angeschnitten gewesen.
Ich scroll hier gerade die Podcast-Charts durch, da sind Sachen bei, auf irgendwelchen hohen Plätzen, wo ich gar nicht, wusste ich gar nicht, dass es die überhaupt gibt. Eieieiei.
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Do you know what else I read in my research? Did you know that in the Middle Ages there were many underground rivers in London, Paris and even today?
Yes, I know it in Bremen, for example, the Balge, which actually runs along the marketplace, which has also been moved under the city, because it was annoying to hop over it on the way to the market. Then the people just put it in such a gutter, in such a canal. Yes, of course, I know, yes, there are many underground rivers. There are also many underground mountains.
Yes, and this underground river that I just discovered, it's called River Ephra. And that's the interesting thing, especially in London there were a lot of underground rivers that have now all been incorporated into the channeling. That means that channel deposits were used from the former rivers. And one of the River Ephra, there is a Wikipedia entry,
was a so-called former set of streams in south london and led there so pretty long up to the thames they are then all in the thames and at this time it is not uncommon that all of a sudden on the thames and that is probably what people have been talking about for a long time a snake swam And now it comes.
These underground rivers have then removed so much earth and are now in the vicinity of a cemetery. And around the top was the grave, completely normal. The people then wondered, then they fished the coffin out of the dam and opened it. And then they said, wait a minute, that's the thing here, we just dug it up. Why is he swimming in the dam?
And then they found out, of course, much too late, that these underground rivers made sure that more and more earth was removed. And in a cemetery, then different serges were pulled off the earth, into this river stream, at some point landed in the Thames. And you saw a snake swimming along the Thames to a friendly greeting in the morning.
But that will happen in the future with rising sea levels and more and more frequent extreme weather and rainfalls from above. That will happen more often. Probably. Probably these are the things we can focus on in the next few years. Hey, dear parents out there, prepare your children for it.
It's not just getting really warm in the summer, it's not just getting really unpleasant in the spring and autumn with rainfalls, but it can also be that sometimes on the way to school a shark swims by. Therefore. Aren't those nice thoughts for the future? I wrote something down, because I would like to call the podcast optimistic out of nowhere.
And that is either, two suggestions, either go to the stars or get out of the projects. Because I've had so much to do with people again this week, who hang out in Berlin in some weird script conferences, where you think, that will never be published. Even if it is published, it will be shit. Do something with your hands, do something sensible, get out of the projects.
Pack up, all hands on deck, do something sensible. Get out of Berlin, take care of Europa, for example. Or get up to the stars, without shaming people directly. That would be another possibility. Or do you have a better suggestion for today's podcast? Out of the Projects is a very good title. It annoyed me a bit this week, because I have the feeling that it's a mixture of
Escapism, which applies to people, so do something completely different. I want to concentrate on the foreign lands as long as we can. And so I can understand. But it doesn't help. Especially this, oh god, oh god, we don't know what's coming our way. Yes, but you can do that. Times of movement are always times where you can maybe ideally... Can influence easier than usual in times of austerity.
And if that's already metaphorically speaking, rub tectonic plates on top of each other, now you could hit a foot in between and maybe make a few smart thoughts or good thoughts and bring them in. And that might also bring something now.
And then I always think, hey guys, and then they go into some kind of jobs where you don't know exactly what they are for jobs in some projects and come out of the projects, do something with your hands or I don't know, I don't know. I'm so fucked up from the week, dude, it was such an exhausting week. It was such an exhausting week.
And we often have that at work, that we work so hard in front of us and everyone does the shows and it all comes together and then, you know, it's really a group of people working on a project and then everyone thinks about something and someone throws a ingredient in the pot and then there are weeks where everything comes together and it adds to a picture as if it were...
And for example, let's take a look at our tour. The tour title of the tour of the Rundfunk Tanzorchester and me in January is called Eisern Ehrenfeld. And when I thought about it, One and a half years ago, everyone was like, hey, Eisern Ehrenfeld, because of Rammstein or something.
And I swear on everything that I thought back then, no, because I think when we're on tour, that's exactly the right title. And I think it's now, really, now it's like, yeah, of course, not Rammstein, but you're standing there, Eisern is exactly my feeling, the only thing you can do now is stay Eisern or something like that. to try to hold on and to understand that as a kind of parole.
And it was actually the feeling I had one and a half years ago when I was thinking that in one and a half years, at the beginning of 2025, how is the mood there? I think, first of all, I feel comfortable on stage when I say, stay iron. Well, everyone comes to the tour. Tell me again, when does your tour start again? You just have to get out.
It starts in mid-January in Frankfurt, but it's already sold out. Eisen Ehrenfeld here, that's where it starts. It starts on the 13th of January in Frankfurt in the Jahrhunderthalle and then directly the most exciting thing on the 14th of January, moved up from the Palladium to the Lanxess Arena. Good luck there. From there, there are still tickets.
Frankfurt is already sold out and then we're in Erfurt and Hannover, Swiss Life Hall. It's going to be great. There will be special guests. That's getting more and more. We're sitting on it next week and doing the set list. The show is planned. I worked with the choreographer who's already pink.
But you also have to- Cirque du Soleil. You have to get into the preparation quite soon, because it's not like you're doing music all year round, but it's also things that happen every now and then.
And there I say, pay attention, that's my problem. First of all, physically it's okay, I'm fitter again. When we recorded Bömi brutzelt, I really noticed- Dude, it's hard for me to get up the stairs and stuff. I had such a fat summer. In the meantime, I've gone down a bit again to my usual 71 kilos. And now I realize, I have to train my voice.
And I really have to do it every day so that the muscles so fit that I keep up with it properly. It's really long, from January 13th to the last performance is on February 1st in Essen in the Gruger Hall, Hamburg Barclays Arena, Max Schmeling Hall in Berlin, only a few more tickets, Vienna City Hall, there, excuse me, in Vienna, strangely enough, little.
So it's full and stuff, but it's at least going on, because I think for political reasons, I can imagine, it's a difficult bottle at the moment. If you're in Berlin, I'll come to all of them. Come by. Eisen Ehrenfeld, it's really great. The Rundfunk Tanzorchester comes in first position. We're all there, we're really happy. Maybe we'll get Till Lindemann's penis cannon.
The posters look like you could expect that. And I saw your tour posters at our studio. I drove past it, passed it yesterday. That was Olli's fault. I know them from work.
I have a little smaller arm. I don't have the frame. I don't have the Laxess Arena. The Lax Arena. The Lax Arena. I go on tour from the 22nd of November. I go to Kassel, then Trier, Heidelberg, Zurich, Düsseldorf, Erfurt, Potsdam, Hamburg. Where are you in Zurich? In Zurich I am in the Volkshaus.
Oh, that's nice. Wonderful. In the city center. Yes. That's a very nice theater. I'm in the hall, that's a bit outside. Where are you in Stuttgart? I'm not in Stuttgart at all.
Oh, sorry. I'm still in Heidelberg, in Halle 2.
I'm in Stuttgart, in the Gudrun Ensslin Halle.
I wanted to get one thing straight. On the 1st of December I play in Hamburg. I was supposed to play in Übel und Gefährlich. The concert has been sold out for a long time. From tomorrow there will be tickets for Hamburg again. We will postpone the concert from Übel und Gefährlich to the factory in Hamburg. There are also special reasons that I would like to share with you.
That Übel und Gefährlich is a shop that has been around for a long time, more than 15 years in Hamburg. And I have always been very connected to the shop, which is related to the people who work there.
The woman, I don't even know if she wants to be public, I'll just say a friend of mine who has been working there for a very long time, we know each other for a very long time, I appreciate her work very much, I know how much she has burned for this shop. was canceled last week by the new owners. From one day to the next.
And I have to say, I am absolutely loyal to them, because I know exactly what they did for this store. And the reason why I wanted to play in evil and dangerous was that the store was not doing well and I somehow wanted to support it. But why is it not doing well in evil and dangerous? No, it's not good.
It's also because the new organizers don't value concerts so much anymore, but rather let YouTubers or companies celebrate. In addition, another club location was built over there in this bunker in Hamburg, in the Feldstraße bunker. And then a tour hotel was also built, which is definitely quite spectacular to go up there. I still haven't done it yet.
And I think that the next store we have to say goodbye to is really dangerous. The way the future looks like right now. I don't want to deal with employees like that. And with people who really ripped their ass off for this store for a very long time. To support this store somehow. That's why there are still 300-400 tickets from tomorrow. Because more people fit into the factory.
Dear Hamburgers, if you want to come to my concert, there will be a whole bunch of tickets from tomorrow morning. One last thing I would like, something light at the end of the show. Can I turn on the music or not yet? You can turn on the music. Do you know where the pogo dance comes from? I also got a link from Rewe Pogo. You know the pogo dance.
Of course, jumping around and hurting each other and breaking their arms and stuff. Why? Because of pogo. Oh, my ankle. Ouch, ouch. Website pogo.
Can you tell us a little bit about the history of the Pogo? I just sent you the Wikipedia link under history and that's really interesting.
The Pogo is a dance that has its origins in the punk scene. The Pogo was created in 1976 and was originally an anti-disco dance of the alternative punk movement. Maxime was the one who used all means to move against the homophobic and boring disco beat.
Punk was played very quickly at the beginning, in order not to come into contact with the all-powerful disco mainstream musically and socially politically. Punk bands played live music in the very first line, so the pogo dance in the group before and on stage. In the 1980s, the pogo was often found with representatives of electronic body music applications.
Originally, the pogo dance only consisted of uncontrolled jumping into the air at the end of the 70s. But with the increasingly aggressive music that developed out of punk rock, the movements towards the music also became more and more intense. Especially in the hardcore scene, the slam dancing took place. According to Glen Matlock, Sex Pistols, the Pogo goes back to Sid Vicious.
In his book, I Was a Teenage Sex Pistol, Matlock describes that Vicious was already a well-known personality in the punk scene before his time at the Pistols. When visiting the concert, he let go of his urge to dance under the influence of drugs and jumped up and down wildly because of the tightness in front of the stage. Whereby he flinched at the other spectators.
Music reporters would have observed this and interpreted it as a new dance that had been missing from the new music so far. They would have chosen the name Pogo because Vicious looked like he was jumping on a pogo stick.
You see, that's what I meant. A pogo stick. Do you know what a pogo stick is?
It's like, it was often in Disney comics. The grandchildren of Donald Duck always had that. That's a spring stick with a spring where you stand on it. A jumping device. Here, directly from one to the other. A jumping device from the 60s, especially from the Entenhausen area. The pogo stick was more often depicted as a means of movement. That's why I know it as an old Donald Duck.
I, as an old punk rock fan, didn't know that the Pogo dance, but quite logically, this Pogo, the expression comes from there. And now it gets even more interesting. Do you know where the expression Pogo comes from? No. Pogo, that's a German, down there is the name.
The name of the pretty girl as Pogostick is probably derived from the initial letters of the surname of the registration of the patent Max Polig and Ernst Gottschalk, who presented the patent to the Reich Patent Office on March 9, 1920. So that's two abbreviations. Pogo comes from Polig and Gottschall. The two of them probably invented this state at the time.
And that's the so-called Pogo effect, when you jump up there.
And today they have a funny punk hairstyle and make a podcast where they explain the news by feeling every week. The Pogos. Yes. Guys, we only explain the news according to facts. That was a wild week. Sorry that we have a bit of a mess ahead of us today, but we have to get rid of it somewhere. I would like to see the next week... Robert Habeck is now a chancellor candidate.
He has now called out the chancellor era with Taylor Swift. Friedrich Merz has been a chancellor candidate for a long time. Olaf Scholz will also be a chancellor candidate. I would like to see the chancellor candidates in the future purely according to performance. I don't want to look at the content. I want to evaluate everything performatively. Knödel Robert...
The dumb Olaf, the loud, nervous Friedrich... And Friedrich Merz. Until a new chancellor is established, we will take over this. Overordered. The federal president calls every now and then to get some information from us, so that he knows what to say in his ten seconds. Guys, Germany is not without leadership. And it's always better to be without leadership than to have a leader again.
You always have to think about that in Germany. That's why don't let your heads hang. It always goes on somehow. The podcast today is called out of the projects. All hands on deck. We need a stable back again. Tell your concerts off when a fascio plays in front of you. And if a friend of yours is thrown out in the bad and dangerous, then you don't go into the bad and dangerous anymore.
And so we heal Germany again through decisions, through hard, cold decisions, but they are right. That's the important thing.
I think so too, that's important. We thank you for listening, thank you also for your understanding. Sven, here today, we were a little bit less down-to-earth for our relationship.
What do you think would be the most beautiful hoot of the Chancellor candidates?
I think Scholtz, because at least he got rid of molting. That's all. Oh God, oh God. But that too, with these thoughts, we'll leave you alone now.
I don't know.
Olli, yes, Olli Scholtz. Who has won the most? Who wins more? Who wins more?
Come on, come on. I think, let's be honest, I think it's insanely exhausting when you're in such a political responsibility to masturbate regularly. Especially how and when and where.
Well, how can I say, Mr. Merz shouldn't go into the office now. Why? Did he have a meeting? No, he didn't say what he had.
He had his own private ten minutes. That's how he shared them.
I don't know exactly. I don't think Robert Habeck needed it, because it's all somehow in his political communication, the self-satisfaction.
You know what I'm getting at right now? That Friedrich Merz looks like Art the Clown from Terrifier, just a little bit. Just without a mask. Shit. Just a little black hat on the side. Alright guys, thanks for listening. See you next week, bye!
Bye! Right, you really look like a clown. Totally.