Digital Social Hour
Why 'Prey Drive' Will Change How You Succeed | Michael Burt DSH #1152
Fri, 31 Jan 2025
Why does "Prey Drive" hold the secret to your success? 🚀 On this episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with Coach Burt, the powerhouse behind the concept of "Prey Drive," to unpack the psychology of activation and how it transforms your drive to succeed. From coaching championship teams to building multimillion-dollar businesses, Coach Burt shares the five activators of "Prey Drive," his journey from high school basketball coach to bestselling author of *Flip the Switch*, and the habits of the top 1% of performers. 💡 Discover how fear, competition, and even embarrassment can spark your inner boldness, the importance of finding a skill over a "why," and why coaching is key to reaching your peak potential. Whether you're an entrepreneur, athlete, or just someone looking to elevate your game, this episode is packed with valuable insights you can’t afford to miss! 💼🔥 Tune in now to discover the game-changing strategies for unlocking your success. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 #jimrohn #mindsetmentor #businessdevelopment #howtobuildpreydriveinadog #selfimprovement CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:28 - What is Prey Drive 01:39 - How to Activate Prey Drive 04:32 - Meeting Grant Cardone 06:49 - Overcoming Limiting Beliefs 09:13 - Coaching High School Girls 09:42 - Ego in College Sports 10:06 - Future of Education 12:24 - Best Coaches of All Time 13:26 - Level 4 vs Level 5 Leaders 16:01 - Sports Mindset in Business 17:48 - Business Needs More Coaching 20:00 - Mastery Timeframe 23:20 - Real Estate for Profit 26:35 - Packaging Your Past 29:47 - Investing in Mentorship 32:56 - Traits of a Great Coach 34:58 - Learned Helplessness Explained 38:18 - Habits of Top Performers 40:54 - Building Confidence 42:59 - What's Next for Coach Burt 44:14 - AI in Healthcare 45:08 - Closing APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Michael Burt https://www.instagram.com/michealburt https://www.youtube.com/@CoachMichealBurt SPONSORS: Specialized Recruiting Group: https://www.srgpros.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/
Chapter 1: What is 'Prey Drive' and why is it important?
All right, guys, Coach Burt here from Nashville, former women's basketball coach. Thanks for coming on, man. Absolutely. Yeah, you've been killing it. Author of 22 books.
Chapter 2: How can you activate your 'Prey Drive'?
Yes, started early, started at 25 years old, really just to explain what I was doing as a basketball coach. So I had no intention of... Writing 22 books just started and really enjoyed the process and enjoyed packaging a method. And I think that's what a lot of people need is a methodology. Absolutely. A few of them really took off, right? A few of the books. Yeah, a few of the books.
A Flip the Switch became a Wall Street Journal bestseller, which is really the psychology of activating what we call the prey drive, which is your instinct to pursue activity. And I trademarked those two words. It's prevalent in an animal. An animal has a prey drive. And when I saw those two words, it's the animal's ability to stalk, capture, and kill prey.
And when I heard that, I'm like, man, I got to trademark that. And I believe in more vuja de versus deja vu, which is like a fresh twist on an old way of thinking. And there's 20 motivational theories. I deconstructed those theories. I codified those theories. And then I said – I'm going to come up with my own theory, which is there's a drive inside of you that that drive can be activated.
And I'm going to trademark those two words, prey drive. And that became really popular. Those two words. Yeah.
I love prey drive stuff. When I was a kid, I grew up without a father. My parents got divorced and I was a basketball player, but I played super timid. I wasn't aggressive at all. I didn't have that drive in me. It was like, take it to the basket or whatever. But now as I'm older, my game's completely different. I got the confidence back and I'm a way better player.
Where did that drive? Where was it initiated? Yeah.
It must have been through business mentors or something, maybe friendships. But yeah, growing up without that father figure, it affected me, my confidence and in personal life and in sports.
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Chapter 3: What are the five activators of 'Prey Drive'?
Yeah. Well, I was raised by a single mom and had me when she was 16 years old. Wow. And she was tough, man. She taught me we don't whine, we don't complain, we don't make excuses. She wouldn't let me miss a day of school growing up. And I hated that really until later in life. And I was really thankful that she instilled kind of a discipline in me and a toughness in me.
So a lot of my parade drive actually came from just watching her survive and watching her just get up every day and go get it, man. You were like really just go straight at it type of kid. Yeah, I mean, she was a kid having a kid, right? She was only 16, and she always talked to me like I was an adult. Wow. But she was really disciplined and tough.
And I do believe that summer parade drive is kind of conditioned. A lot of people ask me, like, why do some people have it and some people don't have it? A lot of it is just discipline. conditioning, right? Like environmental scripting, like what you're exposed to as a kid, right? I had a lot of great coaches. I was raised on a baseball field in a gym.
So when my mom was working, I was in a gym or on a baseball field. And those coaches really served as kind of a father figure for me. That makes sense.
So do you think everyone has it? You just got to activate it. Someone has to activate it.
I do think most people, I think everybody has it. Number one, I think most people don't know how to activate it. And, or they've never been exposed to something that would activate it. And I kind of found that there were five activators when I was writing the book. Fear is an obvious activator. And so think of fear of loss, huge activator, right?
If you fear losing something that you really care about, it'll activate the prey drive. Competition, big activator, prey drive. And a lot of people are just competitive, man. They want to be the best. Like competition brings out the best in people. It brings out the worst in people. Then you've got environment, like the environment you're around when you're thinking bigger.
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Chapter 4: How does 'Prey Drive' apply to business success?
Exposure, like this is why you need to be going to conferences, have business coaching because you're exposed to bigger think. And once you see something, it's like, man, there's a big world out there. And then embarrassment is an activator of prey drive. It's like I'm personally embarrassed by – by where I'm playing at.
I remember when I first started getting around big time people, like whether it be a Cardone or any of those people, at first I was like, gosh, it's such a bigger world. I'm playing so small in comparison to what I'm capable of playing, you know? And so embarrassment can be an activator. So those five activators, people typically have a primary activator and then a secondary activator.
And I think a lot of that has to do with your upbringing as well, your conditioning as well. A hundred percent. Yeah. When did you meet Cardone? First met Cardone in 2017. I want to say 2013, 2014, I had a radio show on the Fox Business Affiliate in Nashville. I was constantly looking for people to interview, and I was walking through a Chicago airport and saw 10X.
And I go, man, it looks like a great book. Picked up the book. I'm like, dude looks good. He's got great hair. And I called his office and had him on my show.
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Chapter 5: What role does coaching play in reaching peak potential?
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So I was doing the interviewing because I was always interviewing somebody big. And when I was finishing, he said, man, you and I should be doing things together. Wow. And that led to me ultimately speaking at 10X in 2018 at Mandalay Bay.
That was the second one, right?
Second one, yeah.
That was early on.
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Chapter 6: How can experiences shape your 'Prey Drive'?
But I did an original event with him in Riviera Maya, Mexico. It was Bradley Cardone. I mean, like 75 people in like 2013. And I was just, you know, the biggest thing he did for me was I was just he made me think a lot bigger. And he said one day, he said, man, your market is not Nashville. Your market is planet Earth. Go back and figure out how to sell your products to everybody on the planet.
And that piece of advice was like, you're thinking too small, man. And that was good. I needed to hear that. Because at that time, I was really selling Coach and Sean like people had to come physically, right, in a room. And I could get 100 people in there. And that opened me up to, you know, now we have customers all over the world. Croatia, Dubai, Turkey.
But it was really from that statement that he said to me.
That's incredible. A lot of people have these limiting beliefs, right? We were talking before we started how your life goal was to be a D1 coach. And that was, you would have been happy with that. But now look at you now.
Yeah. I mean, it was kind of unintentional. It's like I was winning high school games. I was building kind of a national powerhouse. I loved it. I never thought about money. I never thought about anything. I lived in a little two bedroom condo that I loved and I love coaching, man. I just wanted to be the best at that.
And around probably three years into being a head coach, because I got the head coaching job at 22. Wow. Yeah. I'm at this big second biggest high school in Tennessee. And I'm using all this unique methodology. I'm bringing in Stephen Covey of Seven Habits of Highly Effective.
I love that.
So it's like I'm teaching these 14-year-old kids seven habits, good to great, five dysfunctions of teams, power of intention. So imagine playing for somebody like me at 14 through 18, and I'm spending five and a half hours a day with you, and I'm teaching you all these life and success. So people were constantly saying, like, man, what are you doing with these kids?
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Chapter 7: What are the habits of top performers?
Because they could see how the kids played. You know, you're into athletics, so you understand it's like they had chemistry, they had discipline, they had prey drive. So people would watch my teams play and go, what are you doing? That prompted me to sit down and write my first book at 25 years old. And it was called Changing Lives Through Coaching. We don't sell that book today.
We don't want anybody to buy it because it wasn't very good. Um, and I didn't have a lot to say at 25, but, but it got me something crazy happened when I wrote this little book. I could, I wanted to write it for coaches, but coaches wouldn't buy it. It's like, cause coaches are stubborn. Even if they're losing, they still don't want to write, but, but he got in the hands of business people.
And business people started to call me and say, man, will you come speak to my team? And it was like Dell Computers and State Farm Insurance and National Healthy, like big companies. And I would go speak for an hour and they would give me a check. And I made more in an hour than I made in a month. And so that prompted me to go home and go like, man, what what skill do I have?
And I really had the skill of activation, activating a prey drive in people, building competitive intelligence in people, inner engineering people on how to really win, like at a deep, deep level. And that's what these companies saw in me. So companies started offering me, you know, six figures. And I'm like, man, I'm not leaving until I win a championship. And so I stayed till 31.
And then I retired at 31. I had written four books at that time. And then I retired from athletics at 31 years old. Wow. That was a high school championship? Yeah.
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Chapter 8: How does mentoring accelerate success?
In Tennessee? Tennessee, yeah. Nice. Women's team, right? Yeah. What made you choose women over men?
They're easier to coach. The truth is I started in boys and something told me I was coaching at 18 years old at elementary school and something told me expand your resume. Coach girls in the summer. I coached girls one summer. I loved it. They wanted to do what I asked them to do. They're not as much ego. And it just happened that a women's coach hired me to be an assistant. Wow.
And so I just stayed on that side.
Yeah, speaking of ego, I feel like with all these crazy NIL deals these days, I'm sure the ego is at all-time highs with these players.
And I think, you know, it's easy to tell kids what to do. They try to do what you ask them to do, right? They may have ego. They may have confidence problems. They may have issues, just like everybody does. But it's even harder building great teams in adults, right? And when they went to NIL – You know, it's like, why did Nick Saban really retire?
He really retired because he didn't want to deal with that. Right. It's gotten away from what college coaching was, which is preparing young men and young women for the future, getting an education, whether you agree with college or not. I mean, you know, I went to college for nine years.
So it's like it's like it's like I kept pursuing degrees because I knew I'm like, I need to get business degrees. I need to learn more about business. But the truth is, I think where we're going with this probably privatized education. Like if my daughter wants to be a great podcaster, you know, like I'd send her to somebody like you and say, go study under this dude for two years.
Like that's your college. Yeah. That's where I see the future going.
A hundred percent. You see guys like Jordan Peterson starting their own universities. I'd rather pay Grant Cardone to mentor my kids and send them to college for a business degree.
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