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Why DEI Programs Matter More Than You Think | Naima Trout DSH #1359
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Why do DEI programs matter more than you think? 🤔 Tune in to this thought-provoking episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly as we unpack the real impact of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion initiatives. From tackling workplace equality to supporting veterans, people with disabilities, and beyond, DEI programs benefit more than just one group—they uplift everyone! 🌟 Our guest, Naima Trout shares eye-opening perspectives on misconceptions about DEI, the gender pay gap, and how these efforts drive positive change for communities across the board. We also dive into hot-button topics like feminism, college accessibility, immigration, and the challenges of navigating today's political climate. 💡 This episode is packed with valuable insights and lively debates you won't want to miss. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Join the conversation and share your thoughts in the comments below! 💬 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - College Dropout Story 01:15 - Feminism and Its Impact 07:51 - Getting Into Politics: A Journey 09:59 - Aire: Understanding the Concept 10:45 - Did Charlie Kirk Change Your Mind? 15:00 - Ground News: Media Analysis 17:55 - California Sues Trump: Legal Implications 19:17 - Republican Solutions: Quick Fixes or Real Change? 26:37 - Education Process: Personal Reflections 28:15 - Economic Mobility: Opportunities and Challenges 32:37 - Debating Emily: Key Points 34:14 - Weird DMs: Social Media Experiences 38:56 - Tax the Rich: Discussion on Wealth Distribution 43:55 - Trump Lies: Fact-Checking Daily Claims 50:17 - Will You Venture Into Politics? 52:24 - Executive Orders: Support and Opposition 59:18 - Deportations: Current Policies 1:06:00 - Paying for College: Financial Strategies 1:06:15 - Shoutout to Mom: Personal Gratitude 1:06:39 - Women Can Do It All: Empowerment 1:07:01 - Where to Find Hailey on Social Media 1:07:15 - Potential Future Debates: Topics to Explore APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Naima Trout https://www.instagram.com/hair.soupp SPONSORS: AIRES TECH: https://airestech.com/ THERASAGE: https://therasage.com/ GROUNDNEWS: https://ground.news/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. Digital Social Hour works with participants in sponsored media and stays compliant with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations regarding sponsored media. #ad #values-basedbusiness #diversityequityandinclusiondefined #feminismandintersectionality #collectivehealing #whatisdei #trump #news #diversityandinclusionstrategy #donaldtrump #equityinitiatives
Chapter 1: Why do DEI programs matter?
Quality education, if that makes sense. But I don't think that the solution to that is, well, college is bad. Because I think college is really good. And I think that more people should have the opportunity to go to college. And it should just be more accessible. Yeah. When you see Charlie say it's a scam. Charlie didn't go to college. Charlie dropped out of community college.
All right, guys. Naima here on her home turf in LA. I know. Which one's my camera? Is this my camera? This is yours. Hi. Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. Not your usual audience, right? No. Kind of. You're used to the Jubilee spotlight. Their audience is a little bit more conservative than the people. Yeah. They're kind of center right.
Chapter 2: What are the misconceptions about feminism?
Really? I always assumed they were left just because they're videos. No, they're kind of center right. I guess you're right, though, because they've been having guys like Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles. Yeah, Ben Shapiro, Charlie. They had Myron on, too. They've had a lot of pretty conservative people on. They had Pearl. Wow. Was she a one on 25? What was that one about?
Oh, my God. The one with Pearl was like she was a male rights activist. Wow. That's not shocking, though. No, it's not, Pearl. I'd love to see you debate, Pearl. I don't know if that would really be much of a debate. No. Yeah. She just doesn't stick up for a woman. No, not really. She's very it's she's just a pick me. Right. I mean, there's not really much.
Yeah. Because I know you're big on woman empowerment. Right. Yeah. I mean, I think I'm just big on like equal rights for everyone. So wherever I see someone or a group who I feel like has been disenfranchised. That's how the feminist movement started at first. Right. And then it kind of got crazy along the way.
think it got crazy i think a lot of people confuse feminism with misandry and the whole like extreme hatred of men is not real feminism that's not what feminism is about you know people definitely start certain people associated the two i think that associating the two is a way to belittle the feminist movement and by confusing people into believing that all feminists hate men you know you're gonna get more opposition to the feminist movement but that's not what it's about
I definitely think red pill played a role in that.
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Chapter 3: How does college accessibility affect equality?
I think it played a big role in that. It's very funny because it's like, I'm a feminist, but it really just means having the choice to do what you want to do. You know, I feel like there's a big push on the right to create this kind of traditional woman and what a woman should be.
And I think the feminist movement is really just saying a woman should be whatever feels comfortable and right for you within the extent of the law. Yeah, that is a red pill belief. The man should provide everything. Woman should stay at home. But that's boring. I would die of boredom. I mean, how many things can you crochet until eventually you just want to get a job? I don't know.
Yeah, I'd be bored if I just stayed home all day. I'd be super bored. What do you do?
bored out of my mind I'd be so bored I'm horrible at cooking I should be so bored I guess you just have to have kids but then it's like they go to school and then you know what do you do and if that's what you want to do I say go for it I have no judgment towards that but is there any ideologies from the red pill that you agree with no none at all I mean here give me like give me hit me with some we'll see if I agree with anything uh you could date multiple women well is it okay to date multiple men
They don't want their girls to date other men while they're dating them. See, so if you say that you can date multiple women, it's not OK for me to do the same thing. That's where I have the issue. Well, that's because they put the man in the position of power.
Exactly. Well, I also think a big thing about women not being able to work is that you're financially dependent on a man in the same way that you'd be financially dependent on a parent. And I don't want to be in a situation where I can't make choices for myself. And I also think just in terms of love.
Like, it's so much more valuable to be in a relationship with someone when you know that they're there because they love you and not because they need you to provide for them. Yeah. You know, on the male equivalent, too, I wouldn't want to be a young man in a traditional society where at a certain point I have to...
provide for like five people off a single income i feel like it devalues both men and women and it puts this unnecessary pressure on both groups you know a lot of them also don't believe in marriage really yeah why um they just feel like it puts their livelihood at risk in case of a divorce they lose half their assets half their wealth sign a prenup see her for prenups
I mean, if you want to, if both parties are consenting to the prenup. I also don't think a prenup has to be necessarily like I get to keep all of the stuff I came into a relationship with and you get nothing, you know. But it could be instead of the state deciding how we divide our assets, we're going to decide how we divide our assets. If, you know, something were to happen. That makes sense.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of slashing DEI programs?
Yeah. Well, because it's part of what DEI does is it ensures pay equality. So DEI is very instrumental in trying to close the gender pay gap. So in terms of and then also on the back of the Me Too movement, a lot of DEI was focused on combating sexual harassment in the workplace and making an inclusive environment for people. people of all genders.
So DEI is generally regarded to benefit white women the most. But other than just white women and black people, DEI also benefits people with disabilities, making sure that working accommodations are appropriate, making sure that people Shout out to today's sponsor, Ground News.
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thing on applications that says like have you served in the military yeah that's dei really yeah like all of that falls under the category of diversity equity and inclusion i actually didn't know that yeah it's pretty cool and then dei also helps with um families who are trying to start ivf treatment helping those families make sure that ivf treatment is covered under their insurance at work.
DEI also provides mental health resources for workers. DEI is great. It does a lot of really cool things. And it's been branded just as like, we're giving handouts to black people. When in reality, that's not what DEI is about. DEI is about making sure that everyone feels included and is treated equally at work. And that benefits everyone.
That's interesting. My fiance loves Target, but they rolled back a bunch of their DEI programs. So she stopped shopping there for a month.
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Chapter 5: How do economic challenges relate to reproductive rights?
And there's been this huge hiring freeze in the engineering world recently. Just because a lot of the goods that are used in engineering are imported from China. Wow. So, you know, that idea that like manufacturing is just immediately going to pop into the U.S. is a myth. It takes longer than that to create American manufacturing and it creates more than just tariffs.
to help American manufacturing. And I think that's a big problem that I generally have with the Republican Party is that their solutions to things are kind of, I describe it as like a band-aid on a bullet hole. Mm-hmm.
like instead of seeing what the core of the issue is and creating legislation that mitigates the core issue, they just see one, the larger result, and then we'll just try and attack that. Right. Instead of actually getting to the root of the problem and solving that. I mean, we're seeing that with abortion. Like since Roe v. Wade was overturned,
the and states implemented these sweeping bans on abortions in 2023 we actually saw the number of abortions increase really yeah they went up from like 900 000 to like over a million damn and part of that is because the women who need abortions just banning it doesn't solve the need You know, you have to get to the core of the issue. Why do women need abortions? Primarily for financial reasons.
That's the biggest factor in why women seek abortive care. And beyond that, medical issues, ectopic pregnancies, you know. But if you just say I'm banning abortion, that doesn't get rid of the need that people have for these abortions. So now people are just going to other states. People are using the telehealth to ship themselves.
abortive care wow yeah you could do that you can do that that's crazy yeah which i'm sure trump is going to attack but we'll see um is it banned in cali No, no. Abortion is super legal here. Yeah, we have some of the chillest abortion rights. Abortion laws. Yeah, no, Callie's pretty great, actually, on that issue. And Callie has been helping with a lot of women get reproductive care.
But the other thing that you're seeing is when abortion is banned without addressing the needs for why women are seeking abortions in the first place, Women who do need abortions and still don't feel like they can have these children who are in states with bans are going to go to other states to get those abortions. And then the abortion will be even later in the pregnancy.
Yeah, because they got to wait. Right. Exactly. Because you have to wait. You have to travel. That is a huge cost. You know, the cost of travel plus the cost of the abortion, you know, so you might have to save for that. that could be an issue for a lot of people. And so it's like you haven't gotten to the core of the issue by placing a ban on goods from China, by placing a ban on abortions.
You're not mitigating the root cause of the issue. Right.
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Chapter 6: What are the barriers to economic mobility in education?
Chapter 7: What role does personal empowerment play in feminism?
For me, it's harder because you got to reach up. See, I'm just like, wash your hands first. Like, I don't know what you've been touching. You know, you could have just been scratching your ass and now you're like touching my hair. It's not the cleanliest thing to do.
It's not the cleanliest thing to do. No. Yeah. So I just I got into politics through just kind of being in environments where I felt like I had to defend myself and defend others of my race and kind of combat misinformation, you know, sometimes in a very pleasant and constructive way, sometimes not. Yeah. sometimes a little bit more combatively. And yeah, that's just how I got involved in stuff.
And then, yeah, as I got older, I started the Black Student Union at my high school and I did some advocacy with the ACLU. Yeah. And so I've just kind of always been involved.
Yeah, you definitely stand your ground. That's what I respect. And every time I see you debate, you like... You have that presence. It's impressive. It doesn't matter who you're debating, too. It could be Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro. Yeah. Hold your beliefs.
Yeah, I don't know. I think that's a big thing for me, especially like with how many echo chambers there are today. I think it's important that if you really believe what you're saying, you should be willing to have that belief challenged and to defend it.
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Yes, I did. Yeah, I debated him. I debated him once on Jubilee and then he came to my school and I debated him there. No. Yeah, he was honestly... kind of rude on Jubilee. And it's funny because I did not know who he was when I was debating him for the first time.
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