Digital Social Hour
Why 80% of Content Creators FAIL to Monetize | Ryan Pownall Part 2 DSH #1050
Fri, 03 Jan 2025
Why do 80% of content creators struggle to make money? 💰 Tune in now for an eye-opening strategy guide! 🚀 Ryan and Sean dive deep into the world of content creation, sharing insider secrets and hard-hitting truths about monetization. From OnlyF*ns drama to podcast success strategies, this episode is packed with valuable insights you can't afford to miss! 🎙️ Discover: • The real reasons behind content monetization failures 📊 • Secrets to building a successful podcast empire 🏆 • Behind-the-scenes stories from the adult entertainment industry 🍿 • Tips for staying motivated and focused in a competitive landscape 💪 Don't let your content dreams fizzle out! Watch now and subscribe for more game-changing advice on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly. Hit that notification bell to stay ahead of the curve! 🔔 Join the conversation and level up your content game today! 🎯 #emailmarketing #leadgeneration #socialmediamarketing #digitalmarketing #marketingagency CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:30 - Ryan’s Adderall Experience 01:44 - Upcoming Halloween Party 05:00 - Hooking Up with Podcast Guests 07:11 - The Pump 11:04 - Kinky Rabbit 15:35 - Ryan's S*xperiments 17:40 - Ryan's Open Relationship 21:09 - Your New S*x Show 23:39 - Getting Guests for Pillow Talk 25:37 - Would You Ever Go Mainstream 27:38 - Hate 28:38 - Your Brand 31:10 - Paying Guests 34:21 - Mia Khalifa 40:17 - Riley Reid 44:20 - Marriage Perspectives 47:24 - Body Count Discussion 49:56 - Penis Enlargement Insights 52:27 - Where to Find Ryan APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Ryan Pownall https://www.instagram.com/itsryanpownall/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/
Chapter 1: What is Ryan's experience with Adderall?
I need to get a pump done, dude. Yeah. It actually grows your dick? The thing is, it takes three months to see results. Ooh. But when I'm on it and I'm fucking locked in 10 minutes a day for three months, it's a good-sized dick. Damn. See, I need that because I don't get too many complaints about length. I can tell. Does your dick kind of look like you? What a question.
They say that about tall, skinny guys, though, so. Yeah. Yeah. Ryan is back, part two. Wow. Wow, you pissed off the internet that first time about Adderall. Yeah. Yeah. What is wrong with people hating on my Adderall addiction? They don't like you taking it, man. Let me do my Adderall in peace. Right? Like, Bob Menary. Great guy. Close friend. He loves Adderall. He does it too much.
He goes four-day benders. He takes it recreationally. Love him. But he's someone that is like, maybe he could slow it down. I do it to work. I do it like Limitless, NZT vibes. Right. You know, Bradley Coop. Yeah, you're being productive on it. You're not taking it to get laid. I don't get laid on Adderall. Actually, I took it Monday, Tuesday. Tuesday, I took a bunch of Adderall. I wanted to work.
Had to go pop by this guy's birthday. This girl I've been trying to fuck for a year was in town. She was at the party. She goes, I leave tomorrow morning. You need to fuck me tonight. I'm like, I can't. So I texted Spencer this, actually. I took 100 milligram Viagra, which causes heart attacks, especially if you mix it with speed, which is Adderall, let's be real.
Chapter 2: What happened at Ryan's Halloween party?
Oh my God, my heart was fucking pounding and I was still soft. That sucks. Yeah. Yeah, that's what happened to Dan Bazarian, man. You got to be careful. So yeah, I disappointed her. Almost had a heart attack. And that's it. Wow, you took so many L's. Yeah, it's just been an L week for me, really. But you got a WB coming up with your party, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, big Halloween party coming up.
How are you going to top the last one? So my birthday, I'm happy to say I've been doing parties events my whole life. Before podcasts, that's all I did. I was a party guy. And that was the greatest party I've ever been to, been a part of, hosted anything. It was fucking incredible. Best thing ever.
And obviously it broke the internet with that one part where I sang Backstreet Boys and I had a sex performance, you know. But the party was so much bigger and better than that. You know, we had little people going around handing out drugs on silver platters. Eight of them just scattered around.
it was amazing all the top most beautiful girls in the world were there the dudes were very selected it was perfect then it cops came with helicopters it was like project x it was amazing but everyone just talks about that one moment where i had the sex performance which to be honest i booked the day before i was like you know it'd be funny if we did this
But now it's like, okay, I gotta top that. So how do you top it? Me singing Backstreet Boys with sex performance. Now people are expecting something too. So I started thinking, okay. And then one day it just hit me in the shower. Music came on. Bonnie Tyler, Total Eclipse of the Heart. You know that song? No. Turn around. Every now and then I get a little. I can hit the notes.
I can hit the notes. So I'm gonna be crushing that. Everyone's gonna be like, what the fuck is going on? Curtain behind me. No one knows there's a curtain. And fireworks on each side. No one knows there's fireworks. You build it up, build it up. And then just on that drop, every now and then I fall apart.
Boom, curtain drops, fireworks, 10 person orgy happening behind me as I just crush the chorus. And I need you now tonight.
i think that will top it i hope damn but now there's drama with the porn people of i don't want to that person in the same orgy as me and i don't want to suck his dick that girl she my boyfriend she's got to be on the far side so now i'm literally mapping out where the orgy people are does this happen in orgy spencer there's drama wow and it's like guys unite peace you know she's a republican
I'm not eating her pussy. You know, guys, just fucking do Bonnie Tyler for five minutes. You know, they're all being very nice. They're all being very supportive of the ideas. One girl, Nicole Saphir. She's a porn star. Good friend. She's like, OK, here's what I want to do. You know, I like I like creativity, you know, because it's my birthday that night.
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Chapter 3: How does Ryan approach open relationships?
You know, imagine I bring all these girls on. I'm like, we want to collab. You want to collab? Which everyone else does. I'm the one guy that doesn't. So, and do I sleep with them sometimes? Sure. Sure. Okay, so that's changed since the last time you came on the show. Because before you said you haven't slept with a guest. I tweaked the rules a little. What caused that?
Because you had a firm line last time you came on. What caused it? I'll tell you. Normal girls don't really want me anymore. You know, like nice small town girls think I've lost my fucking mind. They think I'm insane. They don't want to bring me to mom and dad. They're embarrassed of showing my Instagram because I'm so crazy, right, online.
So the normal girls, unless they're like really confident and secure in themselves, like, you know, like for some reason, like mid 30 women like me, because they don't give a shit. They're women, they've built a career for themselves. But like a 22 year old looking for their husband, not me.
So the porn girls like me and the OnlyFans girls really like me because OnlyFans girls look at porn stars as their celebrities, you know? So they see me hanging out with them. The OF girls think I'm a cool kid. That's who likes me most. So that's who I've been hanging out with mostly, OF girls that do porn, amateur porn. That's my, that's why I attract.
And then the porn girls, you know, new tweaked rules though. Don't hit on them first. Do not hit on them at all while I'm filming the show. Don't ever DM. Don't slide in. Don't go hard eyes on their story. None of that. But if after the episode comes out and they message me and they're going for it, I play hard to get, then what's the fucking issue? What's wrong with that? What is wrong with that?
That's not Weinstein at all. Weinstein was not getting DMs. Come hang out. Right. Right. So I think that's fine. I could see that. Yeah. I've seen girls hit on you on your show and you don't really flare back usually. Thank you. So I could see that. Thank you. Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah. Let them chase you. That's a rare spot as a guy to be in though. Let's be honest. Yeah. You know, I don't want to look back when I'm older because one day this is all going to end. I don't want to look back and people be like, so which ones did you? I'm like, none. I was like, don't shit where you eat. They're like, you fucking moron. Now I can say, bro, I had an orgy with Spencer. Right.
Sean Mike Kelly's producer. You're seizing the opportunity. Yeah. Which happened, by the way. Oh, yeah? Tell me about that. A month ago, this man right here, Spencer Michael Baric. Where was that at? It was at the Kirgo House. It was a tent. Outside? Yeah. Damn. They were promoting it like a 50-person tent orgy, which I've never. That's not my thing. Yeah. Because I don't have a big dick.
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Chapter 4: What are the dynamics of the adult industry?
But when I'm on it and I'm fucking locked in 10 minutes a day for three months... It's a good-sized dick. Damn. Yeah. Does it help with girth, too? More so than length. See, I need that because I don't get too many complaints about length. I could tell. Does your dick kind of look like you? What a question. They say that about tall, skinny guys, though. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are blessed.
And then the random fucking short dudes. They got long dicks? Yeah. I've heard that too, actually. Usually the funny guys have tiny peckers. Comedians, right? Yeah. The loudest guy in the room usually has a small dick. That's why they make up for it. Yeah. Me, but not anymore. You notice I'm more quiet now? It's my dick confidence. You've evolved. Yeah. Nice. Let's go. Yeah.
I mean, as long as your girl's not complaining about it, who cares? Right. So now I'm working my way up to, okay, am I ready to be in an orgy with porn stars who are literally the best fuckers in the world? Right. That's what a porn star is. A male porn star, they're the best at sex in the world. He's one of them.
Yeah.
So am I going to perform properly next to him? So I was in the mirror, like fucking eight mile, you know, if you have one chance, one shot, you know what I mean? And we get in the tent and it wasn't 50 people. There's 50 bracelets, but it was like throughout the party. So there's only five of us. And it was a, who was it? Gia Durza, anal queen, Nicole Saphir and Jesse Pony. Wow.
He's fucking Gia Durza from behind. I'm fucking Nicole. Jesse is just complaining about, What are your intentions with my friend, Ryan? Cock blocking a little. Damon Dice tamed her somehow. He involved her with Gia. Had my back. Complimented my dick. Took Jesse out. Let me do my thing. And then we fist bump and we're like, fuck yeah, brotherhood, you know? No bond like fucking girls together.
What a moment. Right? And then these two dudes walk in and we're like, boom, my dick goes right down. He's a trained professional. He kept it up. I'm like, sup boys? They're like, this is the orgy? Like, yeah, but you got to bring chicks to the orgy. And they're like, oh. And then we keep going and then we look over and they're still there just, wait, can you get the fuck out of here?
And then it ended. Damn, that messed up the dynamic. Yeah. Yeah, when there's more guys and girls, it's kind of weird, right? Yeah. Like, figure it out. Yeah. Do you think girls just wait around for these random dudes to walk in? Bring a chick. Yeah. That's why, like, Kinky Rabbit, Elysian House, they don't let guys come unless they bring a girl who is tested and will participate. Right.
Have you been to Kinky? I heard about it last night, actually. Yeah, I actually went for my first time a few weeks ago. How was it? It was really good. To be honest, the hype of it, Kinky Rabbit. Kinky Rabbit. I expected, maybe it was just painted in my brain, but I expected like this Disney world of sex. It was cool, but it's just kind of like a warehouse with furniture in it.
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Chapter 5: What does Ryan think about monetizing content?
And Alina just drops down and just starts giving me head mid convo. Whoa. At the bar with people around us. I'm like, Oh my God. Oh my God. But I took a Viagra. I was, I was ready. Nice. And then she goes, fuck me in front of all these people.
Damn.
I can't do that. That's a lot of pressure. Yeah. So I did. We went right in the middle against this chair. And I couldn't. I couldn't. I was too scared. But that's why I have so much respect for male porn stars. It's insane what they do. Yeah, I don't think I could do it with people watching, man. That's like an intimate moment for me. Yeah, it's insane.
Even on dick pills or whatever, to get hard, lock in, do a good job. And then they say, okay, now we're doing stills, pictures. Now you got to keep your erection. The thumbnail is important. You want to have your biggest dick possible. So you have to keep a good erection for five, sometimes 10 minutes as the girl just moves around, fixes her hair, makeup. Oh, they're taking photos?
Yeah, before he comes. Oh. They have to keep it hard. And then they go, okay. Then right after stills, they go, pop. And then he has the porn stars a minute or two to come. It's like they're fucking trained animal, like military, you know? Okay, keep your dick hard for 10 minutes with no touching it. Now come. With 10 people watching. It's insane. That's impressive, man. Fucking impressive. Yeah.
I don't think I could do it. That's why when they start out less now, but back in the day, like when, when my boy started, they put you through like fucking training. Yeah. They put you on an Island survivor. Whoever gets off the Island, they put you in 20 guy blow bangs with a grand grandma. Yeah. They put you in like eight dudes and this BBW. Yeah.
like just they try to make you psychologically be like fuck this and then if you keep going and going and then eventually you'll fuck angela white yeah it takes a certain yeah it takes a certain person to make it up to that level right yeah so respect to them now though and the reason all the vets don't like the rookies that's that's really happening right now you know you hear a lot of girls say well she's not a porn star yet she does porn
that there's this kind of animosity of the new girls and the ogs i get it because these girls had to go through so much getting paid 500 a scene 750 every day every day you know and it was very taboo think 10 years ago porn was insane now we all talk about it we're all everyone has only fans but now there's these girls that duo f because they're hot on ig then they say well now i want to do a mainstream scene they get their first team of browsers and then you got girls that went through the ringer for 20 years going
who's this new bitch calling herself a porn star and then for dudes you know they had to do the granny porn a lot of gay shit ish and then there's these guys that just they fuck their girlfriend on of their girlfriend gets famous they go with them and now they're shooting for browsers so i get it i get the beef yeah which side do you lean more towards the vets
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Chapter 6: How do Ryan's guests influence his podcast?
But then again, times change, things change, things evolve. Yeah, you can't be mad that it got easier, right? Yeah. It's like YouTubers that when they were hating on TikTokers.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You're not real influencers. You do shitty short form dances. It's always going to be like that. Yeah. And now the TikTokers are killing it. It's like the 90s basketball players like, oh, LeBron would never last in our day. Yeah, he would. He would have put up 65 a night. Charles Barkley. LeBron's your goat? Yeah. Over MJ? Kobe. Kobe's your goat? Yeah. Okay. That's respect right there.
I mean, you're in LA, so that makes sense. Yeah. Kobe. People are hooking up on your show now too. I see that on the social media. I'm like, damn, you're leveling up. I think I'm losing my mind a
yeah that didn't start for a while though no it actually started with again your producer right there spencer god damn what an influence so we staged it the first time no nothing's back then nothing close came to that plug talk adam 22 and his wife lena they had a show they have a show where on plug talk they they're a married couple they interview a porn star for 30 minutes and then they fuck them on the couch but the show is an only fan show
You know, it's a podcast on OnlyFans. This is a podcast that we've been doing two years. And then we're like, yo, let's bust out in sex. React like what the fuck is going on. Ryan, you can't believe it. And then fuck, what do we do with this content? Let's just put it on a web for 10 bucks. See if people buy it.
So that was like the start of this new genre of, you know, because now coming up with ideas for it, it's like almost like I feel like Vince McMahon and it's like WWE of porn because we're coming up with these like insane storylines to sell the tape because there's porn all over the Internet for free. What makes this worthy of buying for $15? The story.
So the story on that one was no way they fucked on pillow talk, you know? And then the next one we did was the cancer episode. I think I told you about that. I saw that one. Yeah. So we flew a guy down with Steve. Oh, you know what? We filmed that the week after I did your show. Oh, okay. Yeah. So we flew a guy down stage four cancer to fuck his two dream porn stars. That was the best one ever.
That was a cool one. And then you did the grandpa one. The grandpa. Yeah.
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Chapter 7: What challenges does Ryan face in content creation?
You might have been neglecting her a little bit. Real recognize real. I know you're a workaholic. I know. Because it's almost cost me relationships.
yeah it's part of the game well fuck man you know no one works our age especially where we live la vegas like the big cities no one's new york our age they're on their grind yeah okay let's fucking work work work and then saturday they they go out our dude everyone's texting what are you up to today i don't know tuesday at noon sending an email the fuck are you up to today west coast mentality is different how do they all have money
Daddy's money. It has to be. A lot of people. Because what the fuck is anyone doing? I mean, if you're growing up here in a multimillion dollar house, your family has money. So girls, I'm cool with it. If you're hot and you're getting by life on your looks, live your best life. We all wish we had that fucking life. But dudes, boys, grind. The fuck are you doing? Facts.
They're all chilling by the pool every day. It hurts me to do that on a weekday. Doesn't that hurt you? I don't go out on weekdays. Barely weekends, to be honest. Even like going for lunch kills me. I'm like, fuck, three hours of bullshit. Yeah. Especially with the traffic. I could have FaceTime and caught up for two minutes. I barely do calls even. Yeah.
People just be wanting to crack jokes all day. Like if you're calling me, get to the point and let's hop off. Yeah. I'm not trying to FaceTime for two hours. Yeah. I just keep sending the same copy paste text. I have a text replacement that says, hey, sorry, I'm locked in on work right now. Can I hit you later? And you just copy and paste it? Yeah. It says my work. I write my work in it.
Oh, I've seen that.
Yeah.
Text replacement. You can set it up. Because I send it all day. Everyone's like, what are you saying? What are you doing? Working. Wow. That's brilliant. Yeah. There's a lot of distractions out here, man. The fuck is got to stay locked in. You got to stay locked in. Yeah. Especially with what you do. You're doing it multiple interviews a week, right? Yeah. Yeah.
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Chapter 8: How does Ryan view the future of adult content?
And I just started my, my live show. Oh, you're streaming now. No. Well, actually, I started streaming too with Monkey Tilt. Let's go. But that contract, we'll see how it looks today, which I'm very excited for, Monkey Tilt. Been waiting for this one. Money's coming in. But no, we did a, I started a second show under the Pillow Talk umbrella called Dirty Little Secret.
And it's a live show at Bourbon Room. 350 people sold out. We completely copied Kill Tony. And I said it at the very beginning of the show. I was like, yeah, it's Kill Tony. We copied it. But all the comments are like, this is cool, Tony. Yeah, I know. It's a great concept for a fucking show. You know, I'm surprised other people haven't copied them already. Yeah. Right. It's a dope ass concept.
So kill Tony concept. People go up. They have one minute to stand up and then the celebrity judges banter with them. Right. Us. It's the judges are porn stars instead of comedians. And people go up and tell their best sex story. Wow. And it's fucking awesome. That's impressive. All the porn stars come out, support. So we have like 20 people come up. We'll do like 10 porn stars, 10 civilians.
And I'll tell you, the civilian stories are even better than the porn ones. No way. Yeah. Wow. So people are wild. Because for a civilian to see this on Instagram and be like, I got to tell this one. I got to get this off my chest. They drive out, they go there, they put their name in the bucket and they're waiting to tell that fucking story.
Yeah.
Writing this down. You know, one girl's like, yeah, we totaled our car and my boyfriend tore his ACL and this and that because I straddled him while he was driving on the highway and my ass hit the steering wheel and we fell off the fucking, I'm like, that's crazy. Jeez. You know? So I think, I want this show to be my thing. Like, I want it to tour. Like, look at Kill Tony, man.
He sold out Madison Square Garden two nights in a row. Killing it. What the fuck? You know what's money he's making? Yeah. And going on tour has always been like the dream, like the rockstar life. I think that's the future of pods because Tana just did it too. Yeah. She sold out that arena, right? Yeah. Live audiences. Call her daddy. She sold for 60 million. Not sold.
Gave the rights to, just said I won't post it on Apple Music for 60 million. Yeah. Or YouTube. Crazy. Right? Yeah. It's exciting times. Wow. Do you struggle getting guests because it's kind of sexual? Oh my God. Yeah. The amount of like really fucking dope ass people that I have a relationship with that are like, ah, you know, I can't do that. It's so fucked. It hurts me. I'm really organized.
For my guests, I have this, do you use Monday to Monday? Use Trello, similar. Similar, yeah. So I have a whole thing organized of like my whole network and my guests, you know, I rank them like, okay, how funny are they? How good are they on the show? Are they gonna support the pod when it comes out based on what they've done before? How's their engagement on socials, whatever.
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